Preliminary/Grand Final performance since 2000.

[Hobbes]

Starting with 2000, when the current AFL finals system began.

Both QF winners through unbeaten to the GF. 12
One QF winner through unbeaten to the GF (QF loser wins the GF). 4
One QF winner through unbeaten to the GF (QF winner wins the GF) 0
No QF winner through unbeaten to the GF.1

So, in 12 out of 17 seasons, both Qualifying Final winners have contested the Grand Final. In one out of 17 seasons, neither QF winner reached the Grand (2016, you're weird).

What's odd is that four times a QF loser has returned to play the Grand Final against the team who beat them and in all four cases, they've bounced back and won the rematch.

 

[LoungeLizard]

so if 1 qf winner loses prelim, and the other qf winner wins the prelim, then goes on and wins the GF, then it 100% has to be the bye that caused it.

 

[Hobbes]

so if 1 qf winner loses prelim, and the other qf winner wins the prelim, then goes on and wins the GF, then it 100% has to be the bye that caused it.

Well, maybe, but nobody has a bye the week before the GF, and the two weeks off hasn't been a problem in 28/34 cases for the Prelim.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Well, maybe, but nobody has a bye the week before the GF, and the two weeks off hasn't been a problem in 28/34 cases for the Prelim.

But, but, there can't be any other explanation though, it's never happened before, therefore it 100% has to be the bye that caused this.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Was looking forward to this being a thread about which player had the best combined preliminary and grand final performance in a single year since 2000.

Since that would be far more interesting that is now the purpose of the thread.

Luke Hodge 2008 was pretty decent.

 

[Chiz]

Starting with 2000, when the current AFL finals system began.

Both QF winners through unbeaten to the GF. 12
One QF winner through unbeaten to the GF (QF loser wins the GF). 4
One QF winner through unbeaten to the GF (QF winner wins the GF) 0
No QF winner through unbeaten to the GF.1

So, in 12 out of 17 seasons, both Qualifying Final winners have contested the Grand Final. In one out of 17 seasons, neither QF winner reached the Grand (2016, you're weird).

What's odd is that four times a QF loser has returned to play the Grand Final against the team who beat them and in all four cases, they've bounced back and won the rematch.

For all the talk about how the bye dilutes the advantage received by the QF winners, the fact that there was rarely a preliminary final 'upset' (ie the away team winning) in the 16 years prior is a much larger issue. Obviously we want the QF final winners to have an advantage, but not to the point where they win 87.5% of PFs. Will be interesting to see what impact the bye has after a few more years.

 

[ep2018]

I'd back Geelong to beat Richmond if they meet in the GF too.

 

[Deep]

I'd back Geelong to beat Richmond if they meet in the GF too.

Yep I think we will humiliate them as a form of payback & I'm never confident going into any game with this abysmal coach

 

[demondavey]

Statistics would lead you to believe the preliminary final winners will both be there, and this year thus far has shaped that way, but I think Richmond & Geelong will win their preliminary finals this week - so one QF winner to get through.

Tipping the Cats to bounce back and win the flag if they make it, regardless of who they play. But, going on finals form this year, you could argue Adelaide & Richmond would get through.

 

[JRyan23]

GWS will beat Adelaide in the GF

 

[Upgrayedd]

Yep I think we will humiliate them as a form of payback & I'm never confident going into any game with this abysmal coach

"Dangerfield made a great forward. Time to plat him Full back! "

 

[barmy44]

Statistics would lead you to believe the preliminary final winners will both be there

id go so far as to say that is a 'statistical certainty'...

 

[demondavey]

id go so far as to say that is a 'statistical certainty'...

You wouldn't have liked writing that

 

[And_ROOS]

Starting with 2000, when the current AFL finals system began.

Both QF winners through unbeaten to the GF. 12
One QF winner through unbeaten to the GF (QF loser wins the GF). 4
One QF winner through unbeaten to the GF (QF winner wins the GF) 0
No QF winner through unbeaten to the GF.1

So, in 12 out of 17 seasons, both Qualifying Final winners have contested the Grand Final. In one out of 17 seasons, neither QF winner reached the Grand (2016, you're weird).

What's odd is that four times a QF loser has returned to play the Grand Final against the team who beat them and in all four cases, they've bounced back and won the rematch.

If Geelong did that to Richmond this season the forum servers would be down for months.

 

[HTT]

If Geelong did that to Richmond this season the forum servers would be down for months.

Wrong. They dealt with Port losing after the siren, in extra time (sorry Port fans), so they'd only be down a few weeks max in that event