Premiership medal for players who have contributed during the year

[eth-dog]

Yet they have contributed just as much? Strange take this?
Winning a Preliminary final has the reward of getting you into that one game that can win you the flag. There is no other match all season that you can win the premiership in. So yes it is critical to get you into the match but ultimately you don't win anything winning the preliminary final.

And the medal is coveted, that is what makes it so special. I can tell you right now that if Bob Murphy had a premiership medal it would be sitting in a dark draw getting dust with virtually no meaning to him. He knows he didn't play in that one match where you get this medal.

What football leagues have got rid of it? The AFL, VFL, SANFL, WAFL and as far as I know all amateur and country leagues in WA still do it.
Are you talking juniors where participation is rewarded?
Unfortunately I don't think the majority agree with you on this.

Most competitions in Victoria (where the largest amount of leagues are and the most amount of clubs are based) give medals outside the playing 22.

I got one for being the team manager of my club's thirds 6 years ago now. Didn't play a game. That medal reminds me of the entire year. And every year you come up as one of the very small but vocal minority against it.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Most competitions in Victoria (where the largest amount of leagues are and the most amount of clubs are based) give medals outside the playing 22.

I got one for being the team manager of my club's thirds 6 years ago now. Didn't play a game. That medal reminds me of the entire year. And every year you come up as one of the very small but vocal minority against it.

Clearly not the vocal minority, the AFL are the kings of social justice so why have they not changed it to appease the real minority yet?

And thats great you got a medal as team manager, did the entire reserves team get a medal as well? After all without them you don't win the flag.

 

[eth-dog]

Clearly not the vocal minority, the AFL are the kings of social justice so why have they not changed it to appease the real minority yet?

And thats great you got a medal as team manager, did the entire reserves team get a medal as well? After all without them you don't win the flag.

Yeah okay champ. Ignore the salient point (most Victorian leagues doing it) and ignore the fact that ITT that you're in a clear minority.

Once the AFL does it, there will be zero calls for it to be changed back because it would be ridiculous to do so.

Do you think a 12th man deserves a medal for a cricket GF?

 

[Cyclops]

We fear change.

I'm old fashioned, the medal is for the day.

This reminds me of the question of heritability of titles vs styles. In Northern Europe, usually the oldest heir gets the title and with it the style, that is Baron von Humperdinck has 3 sons, only the oldest boy gets to be Baron von Humperdinck when the dad dies (and to be styled or addressed as Baron), the other two might get a lesser style of address.

In some grades of Italian nobility however, all children inherited the style, so there could but a zillion contessas at a party but only one is the contessa of something, the others have an empty style and live in a combi van on blocks on a raft among the outer islands of Venice.

It seems like a diminishing multiplication of honours.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Yeah okay champ. Ignore the salient point (most Victorian leagues doing it) and ignore the fact that ITT that you're in a clear minority.

Once the AFL does it, there will be zero calls for it to be changed back because it would be ridiculous to do so.

Do you think a 12th man deserves a medal for a cricket GF?

I got one as a 12th man in cricket and it meant nothing to me. The following year I got one as a player and it's very special to me.
You keep saying most victorian leagues do it. What do they do? Most leagues have a League and reserves side, are you saying that they give a medal to every player that played a league game that season, plus all the coaches and the team manager. So maybe up to 40 odd medals presented after the GF? Is this what you are saying?
Because that is what you are proposing happens in the AFL that every player that plays a game gets a medal.

 

[eth-dog]

I got one as a 12th man in cricket and it meant nothing to me. The following year I got one as a player and it's very special to me.
You keep saying most victorian leagues do it. What do they do? Most leagues have a League and reserves side, are you saying that they give a medal to every player that played a league game that season, plus all the coaches and the team manager. So maybe up to 40 odd medals presented after the GF? Is this what you are saying?
Because that is what you are proposing happens in the AFL that every player that plays a game gets a medal.

Not at the dais, but leftovers are given to the clubs and they give them out.

And yeah, they don't have to get it at the ceremony, but they should get one. It's beyond time to do so.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Not at the dais, but leftovers are given to the clubs and they give them out.

And yeah, they don't have to get it at the ceremony, but they should get one. It's beyond time to do so.

Well clubs can do as they wish and give as many as they like out, but that is not what this is about. on GF day getting your medal is what counts because you played. Getting one later because you played 8 games won't mean anything. Either put all of them on the dias or it's really a token gesture.

 

[Scotland]

I got one as a 12th man in cricket and it meant nothing to me.

This is interesting. The Shield, BBL, whatever the Mercantile Mutual Cup is called these days etc. all have a final. Cricket in particular overlaps with the international calendar so it's quite common for the best players to barely feature. SA won the Shield and Travis Head played one game. Does he deserve a medal? What about the squad players who play 5-10 games then get left out at the end when Test and ODI players become available?

For something like The Ashes it's a best of 5 series so there is no final and often no series winner. We only picked 6 players who played every test in 2023 and 7 that played 2-4 each. Should we view Pat Cummins differently to Nathan Lyon who got injured to Jimmy Peirson who was a back up?

The WTC Final (which no one really cares about that much) is next week, Given that the WTC occurs over 2 years and takes into consideration multiple series in multiple locations I wouldn't considering someone like Todd Murphy or Matt Kuhnemann not part of our team if we win the final.

Anyway everyone has an opinion one way or the other but I wouldn't consider Brad Sheppard being considered a 2018 premiership player as 'everyone gets a medal for participation'.

 

[maskmcgee]

significant amount of games during the year,

Bob Murphy

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Give them all Brownlows too.