Preview Preview and Changes Vs Adelaide

[Powerade 08]

Sloane is a good player and his real x factor is being able to win 1 on 1s and stick tackles and come from nowhere to take a mark in front of a pack. Just puts in that extra bit of effort that other players do not. Good all round footballer like a Bartel/Hayes. One of the first you would want from another team to add to our group.

If its gonna be wet we should bring in Cassisi. Conditions will suit him and we need another inside mid.

 

[Phhht]

Why are Crows supporters under the impression that our 'preview and changes vs adelaide' thread is Bay 13? They have a thread that's actually called 'Showdown banter' on their thread and Port supporters haven't been anywhere near this bad.

Maybe I should go over there and talk about how Dangerfield can't handle a tag because Heath Hocking shut him down in Round 1? But I'm sure I'd be red carded within half an hour if I dared to question the exalted one.

You have to be sneakier than that festy. Try something like clangerfield's cat cant handle a hard tag...etc etc. See if you can get that half an hour down to less than a minute, go on I dares ya!!!!

 

[Phhht]

Further to this, I dont mind the crowies getting into some 'discussion' here. Let's not take it to personal, as long as they are not disrespectful. Its banter guys, much better than the luv-fests we sometimes see.

 

[Jars458]

As a few people have pointed out, it was Palmer, not Scully. And you don't need to be a brilliant player to be an effective tagger. All you need to do it follow them around, harass and bump, and block their run of the ball. Palmer only had 10 disposals, while a great player like Cornes can negate his man while also racking up 25-30 possessions the other way.
Compare Sloane and Hammer last year: http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...50&type=A&fid1=P&fopt1=2012&fid2=P&fopt2=2011
The stats are almost identical, but Hartlett was doing it copping a tag most weeks (Sloane wasn't) in a team that was struggling and therefore not getting easy possessions that Sloane would have had.
I think Sloane is a good player, and fun to watch, but any footy expert will tell you that Hammer is better than Sloane.

Don't get me wrong I htink Hartlett is a very good footballer but he has been creulled by injuries. If he stays fit he will be elite, no doubt about it. I have obviously watched more of Sloane and I really love his gut running and never say die attitude. He reminds me a lot of Tyson Edwards who played 300 + for our club. I guess Hartlett may have the edge skillls wise but I think Rory's work ethic makes him a terrific player.

I look forward to a very good battle on Sunday evening.

 

[Jars458]

Why are Crows supporters under the impression that our 'preview and changes vs adelaide' thread is Bay 13? They have a thread that's actually called 'Showdown banter' on their thread and Port supporters haven't been anywhere near this bad.

Maybe I should go over there and talk about how Dangerfield can't handle a tag because Heath Hocking shut him down in Round 1? But I'm sure I'd be red carded within half an hour if I dared to question the exalted one.

That's not true and you know it. Very few cards get handed out to opposition supporters on our board. This is just all healtyh banter and debate as shold happen when every showdwon comes along. There has very little in this thread that looks like Bay 13 IMO. Having said that its obviously your board and if you don't want my views I will certainly make like a tree. Cheers.

 

[Janus]

Yes, let's go over to the Crows board and talk about how Dangerfield had a DE of 32 percent against Essendon, like that has any baring on how good he is as a player. Ford, I think it's time to card this Buffoon 92 clown. I'd ask Macca, but I know he probably agrees with everything the campaigner has said.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Further to this, I dont mind the crowies getting into some 'discussion' here. Let's not take it to personal, as long as they are not disrespectful. Its banter guys, much better than the luv-fests we sometimes see.

I don't have a problem with discussion. I have a problem with 'Hartlett better than Sloane. OMG I think I just spat out my lunch.'. As if the mere thought of one of our better players being better than one of the better players at the mighty Crows is not even worthy of consideration.

 

[5um0F1]

11 inches.

Hope Hartlett tears the crows a new one now.

Gravel rash on bell end.

He will

 

[Phhht]

I don't have a problem with discussion. I have a problem with 'Hartlett better than Sloane. OMG I think I just spat out my lunch.'. As if the mere thought of one of our better players being better than one of the better players at the mighty Crows is not even worthy of consideration.

hence the 'not disrespectful' bit. But really at the end of the day, let them think it, what does it matter. It will hurt more when they suddenly discover that eveything isnt red/blue/yellow tinted.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Haha, I still don't see what people jizz over with Sloane.

I certainly wouldn't even entertain the idea of having Sloane over Hartlett. Hartlett, when he's on song, directs and controls the game. Sloane is the little engine that could.

 

[Noobz0r]

I don't really get the Sloane v Hartlett comparison, vastly different breeds of midfielder. Out of all of our midfield group, I would suggest Broadbent / Ebert would be closest to Sloane's type.

And whilst we're still talking about it, I don't think Sloane would cop the hard tag in the Crows midfield. Surely the hard tag would go straight to Dangerfield.

 

[off kilter]

There is no doubt in my mind that we as a club have improved both on and off the field since round 23 last year. This weekends game, nor the knockers can detract from what us supporters all ready know. Major improvement across all facets of the club.

Now I would love us to win the 2013 premiership, I want us to win the 2013 premiership and I as a dyed in the wool supporter of this Club, I BELIEVE we could win the 2013 premiership but to wage my house or to seriously think that we will win the 2013 premiership, I don't think so. So for me its all about improvement and progression. Its evolution baby!

This week is just another game, no different to the 20 others to come. Another test, another challenge and another chance to measure how far we have come. We might win, we might lose but as long as the boys provide the hunger and determination shown in our last two outings I'll be a happy man. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to put the crows back in their places, but at the end of the day its just another 4 points and to attach anymore importance or to build up the 'win' any more than it should will just add to let down if we don't attain the 4 points.

There are 23 rounds this season and with it comes 23 opportunities to win a game or lose a game of football. Consequently there are 23 opportunities for other teams supporters to overate their teams and bag us at any chance. Let them I say.

And by the way, I went along to the Gabba last Saturday and I thought I saw a pretty average game of footy from both sides. Had the brions quantified their on field pressure with scoreboard pressure in the first quarter, the woolies would be 0-2, even with the Dangerfield burst in the last.

 

[Mighty Chinook]

Haha, I still don't see what people jizz over with Sloane.

I certainly wouldn't even entertain the idea of having Sloane over Hartlett. Hartlett, when he's on song, directs and controls the game. Sloane is the little engine that could.

Sloane is ahead of Hartlett at the moment, and there's no indication yet that Hartlett will go past him. Hartlett is too easily injured, and gets tagged out of games too easily. Considering Sloane was #44 in 2008 and Hartlett was #4, you'd want Hartlett to improve his consistency pretty soon.

 

[Jars458]

I don't have a problem with discussion. I have a problem with 'Hartlett better than Sloane. OMG I think I just spat out my lunch.'. As if the mere thought of one of our better players being better than one of the better players at the mighty Crows is not even worthy of consideration.

My profound apologies. I actually wasn't eating lunch at the time. I did say "nearly".

 

[bringbackbucky]

Sloane is ahead of Hartlett at the moment, and there's no indication yet that Hartlett will go past him. Hartlett is too easily injured, and gets tagged out of games too easily. Considering Sloane was #44 in 2008 and Hartlett was #4, you'd want Hartlett to improve his consistency pretty soon.

Wow. That could be the worst post in BF history...

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Sloane is ahead of Hartlett at the moment, and there's no indication yet that Hartlett will go past him. Hartlett is too easily injured, and gets tagged out of games too easily. Considering Sloane was #44 in 2008 and Hartlett was #4, you'd want Hartlett to improve his consistency pretty soon.

I wouldn't have either ahead of each other. Hamish just suffered through a lot of early career injuries which has led to inconsistency, plus he also cops more attention than Sloane and has played under Primus for 2 years. Swap Hartlett for Sloane in our team over the past few years and people would be saying "Rory who?". Hell, he might even be a Matt Thomas-like player. Fortunately, he has had Scott Thompson and (as of last year) Patrick Dangerfield taking the attention away from him, so he gets to maximise his talents - courage, effort and reading of the play. He had a great start to last year, but then had a pretty quiet second half, which got overlooked as the Crows were still winning. He hasn't exactly set the world on fire so far this year, but neither has your team.

Give Hamish a couple of years with proper coaching, development and culture and we'll see how they fare against each other then.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Sloane is ahead of Hartlett at the moment, and there's no indication yet that Hartlett will go past him. Hartlett is too easily injured, and gets tagged out of games too easily. Considering Sloane was #44 in 2008 and Hartlett was #4, you'd want Hartlett to improve his consistency pretty soon.

Besides last week. Name another time he's been tagged out of a game

15 hartlett disposals is better than 25 sloane disposals every day of the week.

 

[Peck]

Sloane is ahead of Hartlett at the moment, and there's no indication yet that Hartlett will go past him. Hartlett is too easily injured, and gets tagged out of games too easily. Considering Sloane was #44 in 2008 and Hartlett was #4, you'd want Hartlett to improve his consistency pretty soon.

If by "at the moment" you mean last year, then maybe. Otherwise, you are just being an Adelaide supporter, which I can respect, but you should not even try to say such things on another clubs board.

 

[Forzaport]

Please report posts if you feel they cross the line.

 

[Mighty Chinook]

Give Hamish a couple of years with proper coaching, development and culture and we'll see how they fare against each other then.

I suppose Sloane will not be so blessed with 'proper coaching, development and culture' over the next couple of years.

Besides last week. Name another time he's been tagged out of a game

15 hartlett disposals is better than 25 sloane disposals every day of the week.

Sloane's disposal efficiency last year was 70.6% compared to Hartlett's which was 70.2%. Oh, but Hartlett was carrying an injury last year

 

[Noobz0r]

I suppose Sloane will not be so blessed with 'proper coaching, development and culture' over the next couple of years.

That clearly wasn't what he meant.

 

[PAFCsince1870]

Sloane is ahead of Hartlett at the moment, and there's no indication yet that Hartlett will go past him. Hartlett is too easily injured, and gets tagged out of games too easily. Considering Sloane was #44 in 2008 and Hartlett was #4, you'd want Hartlett to improve his consistency pretty soon.

Could have been worse, we could have picked Phil Davis. Do you think he'll go to Schulz?

Let's hope Boak outplays Sellar and Tippett on the weekend or we'll really have egg on our faces.

Wait a minute..

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

I suppose Sloane will not be so blessed with 'proper coaching, development and culture' over the next couple of years.
Sloane's disposal efficiency last year was 70.6% compared to Hartlett's which was 70.2%. Oh, but Hartlett was carrying an injury last year

Not saying that - just saying that Hartlett isn't anywhere near his best yet, whereas I can't see Sloane's ceiling being much higher than the level he is already playing at.

Using DE% to compare whether someone's disposals have impact on the game is just silly though. Troy Chaplin had a higher DE% than most of our players, but he was ridiculed as being the worst user of the footy in our team.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Not saying that - just saying that Hartlett isn't anywhere near his best yet, whereas I can't see Sloane's ceiling being much higher than the level he is already playing at.

Using DE% to compare whether someone's disposals have impact on the game is just silly though. Troy Chaplin had a higher DE% than most of our players, but he was ridiculed as being the worst user of the footy in our team.

Cornes has the best DE% in the comp

 

[Mighty Chinook]

Could have been worse, we could have picked Phil Davis. Do you think he'll go to Schulz?

Let's hope Boak outplays Sellar and Tippett on the weekend or we'll really have egg on our faces.

Wait a minute..

The Phil Davis comp pick went towards Brad Crouch, so yes Phil Davis is going just fine thankyou!

As for the others, you're a brave man as a Power fan to criticise the Crows' drafting over the last few years. Something about glass houses?