NFL Pro Bowl Balloting Thus Far

[ALM_30]

Once again the American Football fans of the USA are getting it wrong with regards to Pro- Bowl voting. Here are the favourites for each position as we enter the bookend of season 2007:

What are your thoughts people? Some big errors there in my book.

 

[Brasher]

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What can you say, why voting occurs so early is beyond me, all Pro Bowl voting is nothing more than a popularity and name recognition exercise anyway.

Some of the obvious ones....

.....Manning over Brady?
.....Peterson over Westbrook (Ok injury robbed here but in the end he has only played three-four good games).
.....McBrair over Andy Lee?
.....Vinateri over Bironas or Graham?

 

[Wizard]

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Leon Washington KR???
Devon Hester i know he has changed the way teams play in the kicking game but he has done fu*k all really.
Vinatieri no way.
Brady has to be #1 over Manning, typical popularity contest.

 

[Wizard]

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How many punts has Chris Hanson had??

 

[wce_all_da_way]

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Wes Welker? Get the **** outta here, Leon >> him.

 

[Brasher]

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How many punts has Chris Hanson had??

21...49er and Raider punters have that many every game...

 

[CONS_SS]

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Merriman
Kampmann should be in Osi's place

My thoughts on the Cowboys possibles:

T.Romo - lock
T.Owens - lock
J.Witten - lock
F.Adams - borderline
L.Davis - lock
A.Gurode - borderline
N.Folk - borderline (obviously the Bills game is helping him)
D.Ware - lock
R.Williams - NO. gets a free ride every year
M.McBriar - borderline (not having as good a year as last year, but still near the top)
K.Davis - this guy is an absolute ST demon (our two allowed return TD's both came when he was not playing)

 

[Wizard]

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What do you all think of these guys as possibilites for selection??

WR: Larry Fitzgerald - Lock IMO
FS: Adrian Wilson - Would have to be close
DT: Darnell Dockett - Would be a lock of he weren't a Cardinal
ST: Sean Morey

 

[marcuz]

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D.Ware - lock

I havent heard the merriman> Ware arguments for over a year now. An absolute stud at OLB, plays the run just as well as rushing the passer.

I have a severe man crush on the bloke.

 

[CONS_SS]

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What do you all think of these guys as possibilites for selection??

WR: Larry Fitzgerald - Lock IMO
FS: Adrian Wilson - Would have to be close
DT: Darnell Dockett - Would be a lock of he weren't a Cardinal
ST: Sean Morey

yeah hopefully Wilson takes Roys spot like last year and Dawkins or someone takes the backup spot. I'm on Roys back because he will just rest on his laurels otherwise....

I havent heard the merriman> Ware arguments for over a year now. An absolute stud at OLB, plays the run just as well as rushing the passer.

Even I had my doubts early on, but its clear now that he's a far more complete LB and now the better pash rusher against a 'roid-less (and Phillips 34-less) Merriman

I have a severe man crush on the bloke.

So Ware(wolves) swept you off your feet?? lol get it....swept (see fantasy league thread)

 

[ALM_30]

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AFC
T. Brady >>>>>>>> P. Manning
M. Bironas >>> A. Vinatieri
J. Allen >>>>>> D. Freeney
M. Vrabel >>>> S. Merriman
D. Ryans >>>>> T. Bruschi
A. Haynesworth >>> V. Wilfork

NFC
J. Peterson > D. Ware
D. Dockett > T. Harris
L. Fletcher >>>>>> N. Barnett
L. Landry >>> R. Williams

DeMeco Ryans is a sensational MLB, and has backed up his outstanding rookie year, with an even better one thus far, he just goes completely unoticed at the Texans.

LaRon Landry's productivity in the Redskins secondary has been much better than expected, he's freed up Sean Taylor, he's tough, physical, uncompromising, and has put every foot right as a rookie.

The rest pretty much speak for themselves, although Ware and Peterson was a line ball decision.

 

[marcuz]

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NFC
J. Peterson > D. Ware
The rest pretty much speak for themselves, although Ware and Peterson was a line ball decision.

Ware leads him in most defensive catagories especially QB hurries, he's just a harder guy to stop even with the constant double teams.

 

[ALM_30]

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Ware leads him in most defensive catagories especially QB hurries, he's just a harder guy to stop even with the constant double teams.

Solo tackles-
41-39 Peterson
Sacks-
8-8 Tie
Pass Deflections-
2-0 Peterson
Interceptions-
1-0 Peterson
Forced Fumbles-
4-1 Peterson
Fumble Recoveries-
1-0 Peterson

Aside from sacks Ware hasn't registered a stat in any other defensive catagory (other than 1 FF), and is comprehensively bettered by Peterson. I think that QB hurries thing is false, because it's almost impossible to uncover that information and unless you watch them both regularly it's very hard to judge.

Like I said it was line ball decision, and these stats and the games I have seen from both of them are why I opted for Peterson. Ware also plays in a 3-4 scheme which is much better suited for obtaining success as a pass rushing OLB, thus making Peterson's performances in Seattle's 4-3 that much more impressive.

 

[marcuz]

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Aside from sacks Ware hasn't registered a stat in any other defensive catagory (other than 1 FF), and is comprehensively bettered by Peterson. I think that QB hurries thing is false, because it's almost impossible to uncover that information and unless you watch them both regularly it's very hard to judge.

Like I said it was line ball decision, and these stats and the games I have seen from both of them are why I opted for Peterson.

Ware has 19 qb hurries leads the cowboys and is second in the league. although those starts are hard to make official. QB hits are easier to track and he has peterson covered there also quite comfortably

Solo tackles-
41-39 Peterson
Sacks-
8-8 Tie
Pass Deflections-
2-0 Peterson
Interceptions-
1-0 Peterson
Forced Fumbles-
4-1 Peterson
Fumble Recoveries-
1-0 Peterson

You havent got the up to date stats, ware has 9 sacks to petersons 8, he also has 3 pass deflections(thanks to the game on sunday) and 2 forced fumbles. You'll need to wait another few hours before nfl.com updates their stats.

Still its all subjective i suppose and i am a cowboy fan.

 

[ALM_30]

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Ware has 19 qb hurries leads the cowboys and is second in the league.



You havent got the up to date stats, ware has 9 sacks to petersons 8, he also has 3 pass deflections(thanks to the game on sunday) and 2 forced fumbles. You'll need to wait another few hours before nfl.com updates their stats.

Thanx for that, I thought the stats on the site were wrong. I'll happily change my verdict to Ware then, as he is one of my favourite defensive players, although the race is still fairly close.

PS: Who leads the league in QB hurries and where do you find that out?

 

[CONS_SS]

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It's definetly close for sure, I really rate Peterson too, he was the first defensive player I chose in danielz league....Ware was off the board already

 

[wce_all_da_way]

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If fans got it in, it would have to be Jets fans. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zvx3ZyBQEHc

That's proof. NSFW

 

[marcuz]

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Thanx for that, I thought the stats on the site were wrong. I'll happily change my verdict to Ware then, as he is one of my favourite defensive players, although the race is still fairly close.

PS: Who leads the league in QB hurries and where do you find that out?

footballoutsiders.com

As for who leads the league well i think its kampman from GB.

 

[danielz_23]

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Probowl is a joke to anyone who is a real fan and knows what is going on...

I must say I would almost watch it though because it would almost be a Cowboys squad... its like an extended schedule after our Superbowl win... which opens an interesting point. When we win the Superbowl what will happen if all the Cowboys players opt not to play.



Defensive players are a joke... it just the guys with names you know... and i'll be honest that is how I voted in some of those positions as I dont know what the best offensive lineman is... or best linebacker... I know who I like, so that is how people vote.

Its all about the system, not how people vote. They can only know so much. I wouldn't say anyone outside the NFL itself could say they know who the best lineman, DB or LB is comparatively because different players get different match-ups, double teams, less opportunity... whatever...

 

[Hayashi_62]

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Are you frickin kidding me???

Two HUGE mistakes in the AFC voting there.

KR - Wes Welker???? should definitely be Leon Washington or the young man from Cleveland, whose name escapes me.

P - Chris Hansen?!?!?!?!?!? This is terrible. Hansen sucks! He will most likely be dropped by the patriots at the end of the year. He's hardly even had any punts, as their offense has been so successful. This is terrible. Moorman and Lechler, probably the best two punters in the game, are much better. Even our Ben Graham is better than him.