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Did see a few comments about him being played out of position a bit but didn't watch enough of the roos to really know much for sure
Toast Quinton Narkle
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May have been a comparison with last year when he apparently turned-up in less than AFL shape.Niiice, the first "_______ is training the house down!!" piece for Season 2021. At last some normality is restored to our plague-addled world
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It's like we're expected to believe that the club is trolling Quinton just for kicks. Watching him (reputedly) play like an absolute demon in the scratchies last season, then consistently and maliciously not considering him for selection in the senior side. Then, when the season's over and nobody else wants to pick him up, the GFC turns back up and offers him another contract. Just so that they can all chuckle away throughout 2021 at his doomed efforts to actually get back into the senior team.
What an atrocious club culture we must have when this is how things are going down at the Cattery. It's little wonder that players from across the comp are clearly so reluctant to join the GFC, and that we also have so many players just sprinting for the exits.
Oh, wait...
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Or maybe he flagged he wanted a trade and the club invested in others instead. Could be a multitude of reasons other than club incompetence
With respect to potentially having flagged the desire for a trade (considering nobody then turned up and showed meaningful interest in him), it would be a case of monumental miscalculation by him and his management were that to be true. If you want to tell your current club that you're interested in heading off, it would pay to have at least one club prepared to follow through before you start burning bridges where you are.
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Similar miscalculations have happened
Why does reading the geelong board in the past year keep bringing up the following quote in my head.
“I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. But what I’m saying is that if you believe something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting.”
― Noam Chomsky
“I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. But what I’m saying is that if you believe something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting.”
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If you think that quote is apposite - or even relevant - to an open, essentially unrestricted footy club forum featuring diverse and often flatly contradictory opinions, then you simply don't understand what Chomsky was saying.
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Was thinking more like Deledio "trade me to geelong" where Geelong sees the demands from Richmond and says yeah no thanks.
If GWS hadn't been desperate at the time then it would have panned out a little different.
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I'm pretty sure that's a quote about selection bias for people in positions of power leading to blind action.
Like, say you're a politician and you need a way to get forces out of Afghanistan. 9 generals say all counter insurgencies fail because political goals can't be met through military means, but the 10th one says "we can defeat this by storming the panshir Valley" then congratulations the idiotic 10th General is now in charge and failing as fast as his supply lines will let him.
So who are you saying is in a position of power here, and what is the selection bias that put them there?
I can not discuss this any more deeply then I have already because well the quote is apt.
You have no problems. Not because you are free to believe what you want but because you believe and say the right thing.
Hey hey hey. narkle is ordinary and lacks effort. Thats why the club is right in not giving him games. Hope he learns his lesson And puts in. The club has given him an opportunity
He never wanted to play AFL in juniors and plays like it, has talent but if you don't put in that bit extra it will be over very soon
Yeah it's harder to judge incoming players from other clubs unless you really love your footy and watch neutral games regularly. I'm definitely not one of those!
Needs to find more of the footy when up forward to make it at Geelong, has a burst in the midfield and looks good then proceeds to do nothing for 20 minutes.
They totally changed Higgins role last year, thought he was actually very good to be honest.
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With you on that Shaun...Higgins is a class act..
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Hey Cats fans,
On FTP this week we discussed the intriguing prospect that is Quinton Narkle and how I believe he will be important come later in the year.
Apologies for the long post but I have to post it all here. The full article is here -https://footytalkingpoints.com.au/2021/06/03/ftp-11/
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Quinton Narkle (#19) is one to watch for the Geelong Cats. He’s been given more opportunity this year to play inside midfield and has shown great signs. Narkle is a bull – possessing both the strength and speed to brush tackles aside. It was quite an interesting comparison when Smith said Narkle was a ‘bit like Dusty’. Obviously he wasn’t comparing him to the kind of output that a Brownlow Medal winner and 3 time North Smith medalist produces week to week but more so the type of qualities that Narkle possesses. You can kind of see it. Narkle breaks out of tackles and stoppages with ease – look at this passage of play and tell me it doesn’t remind you a little of Dusty.
His decision making has also improved out of sight – here holding onto the ball just long enough to fool the Saints defender to the outside option before nailing the inside kick.
Narkle is what many at Geelong thought Nakia Cockatoo could be – an inside midfield bull with great burst out of stoppage. Narkle’s production has increased immensely this year – averaging 19.2 disposals (significant increase from last year even factoring in shorter quarters) and his disposal efficiency has increased. His ToG is worrying at only 60.3% (although impacted by a game where he was the medical sub) – which points to a broader issue potentially regarding Narkle’s lack of a tank to run out games (his averages in the last two years hover from 57-64% which is incredibly low).
Regardless, he adds a different dynamic to a midfield of Selwood, Duncan, Menegola and Parfitt but has a lot of like for like qualities to the currently injured Dangerfield.
For a team that has been ridiculed for recruiting older type players and for having one of the more mature sides in the league – it must be rewarding for Cats fans to see a young talent like Narkle start to perform at AFL standard. It’s quite surprising he’s only played 6 games this year given he has shown both in the St Kilda game and on the weekend what he is capable of. 6 games is the most he has ever played in a season so that will clearly be beaten.
It may be a shock to say this but I believe Narkle will be important to a Cat’s premiership push. Because of his unique qualities it wouldn’t be farfetched to see Narkle step up in a big moment – by kicking a clutch goal or winning an important clearance when the Cats need it most. Narkle is one to watch for the rest of this year.
On FTP this week we discussed the intriguing prospect that is Quinton Narkle and how I believe he will be important come later in the year.
Apologies for the long post but I have to post it all here. The full article is here -https://footytalkingpoints.com.au/2021/06/03/ftp-11/
If you enjoyed this - please check out our website and subscribe!
Quinton Narkle (#19) is one to watch for the Geelong Cats. He’s been given more opportunity this year to play inside midfield and has shown great signs. Narkle is a bull – possessing both the strength and speed to brush tackles aside. It was quite an interesting comparison when Smith said Narkle was a ‘bit like Dusty’. Obviously he wasn’t comparing him to the kind of output that a Brownlow Medal winner and 3 time North Smith medalist produces week to week but more so the type of qualities that Narkle possesses. You can kind of see it. Narkle breaks out of tackles and stoppages with ease – look at this passage of play and tell me it doesn’t remind you a little of Dusty.
His decision making has also improved out of sight – here holding onto the ball just long enough to fool the Saints defender to the outside option before nailing the inside kick.
Narkle is what many at Geelong thought Nakia Cockatoo could be – an inside midfield bull with great burst out of stoppage. Narkle’s production has increased immensely this year – averaging 19.2 disposals (significant increase from last year even factoring in shorter quarters) and his disposal efficiency has increased. His ToG is worrying at only 60.3% (although impacted by a game where he was the medical sub) – which points to a broader issue potentially regarding Narkle’s lack of a tank to run out games (his averages in the last two years hover from 57-64% which is incredibly low).
Regardless, he adds a different dynamic to a midfield of Selwood, Duncan, Menegola and Parfitt but has a lot of like for like qualities to the currently injured Dangerfield.
For a team that has been ridiculed for recruiting older type players and for having one of the more mature sides in the league – it must be rewarding for Cats fans to see a young talent like Narkle start to perform at AFL standard. It’s quite surprising he’s only played 6 games this year given he has shown both in the St Kilda game and on the weekend what he is capable of. 6 games is the most he has ever played in a season so that will clearly be beaten.
It may be a shock to say this but I believe Narkle will be important to a Cat’s premiership push. Because of his unique qualities it wouldn’t be farfetched to see Narkle step up in a big moment – by kicking a clutch goal or winning an important clearance when the Cats need it most. Narkle is one to watch for the rest of this year.
Don't go bumping old player threads when we're waiting on the man to re-sign!
Edit - nice analysis though. I don't agree with all points, and I think Narkle has a long way to go, but good stuff. I don't think the "lack of a tank" analysis is fair, I think he had 23 disposals in the second half against Gold Coast? And he played 83% TOG in his most recent game. It's a bit simplistic to explain low TOG% with having an inadequate tank. I'll be more interested to see how he fares when we have Danger, Guthrie, Duncan, etc. etc. all back in the team and we're playing against a serious opposition.
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To be fair though the higher ToG is a very new thing. The jump was tremendous. Remember the prelim against Richmond where he absolutely for it apart in the first half but was completely cooked after half time?
The step up for him has clearly just been based on his running ability which just looks a different level the last few games.
But definitely concur that this should be kept a secret until after he signs. Please delete thread
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I honestly think that if he could run out games the way he does now back in 2019 then 50% chance we win the 2019 premiership. Go back and watch his first half, he just left Richmond's midfield behind and was a huge factor in our half time lead. After half time he was spent and Richmond just walked over us.
