Play Nice Random Chat Thread IV

[Tas]

Fear that he was gonna get away without being shot in the back you mean?

I wont link the video because it is too graphic, but there is a video of two police who tasered a man in the usa and he proceeded to walk his way to his car, open the door while the police were yelling instructions to him with their guns drawn. They didn't shoot. The man pulled a gun out of the car and shot both police officers.

If you ignore instructions from police officers, there is a high probability you are going to get hurt bad or die if they think their life is going to be at risk.

We can and should be critical of police for using excessive force, but I think if anyone critical of police had to perform that job and had to witness a fairly high number of police officers shot and killed doing their job, you would find your attitudes would probably shift due to a desire to not die. Everyone wants to be able to go home to their families.

I think what is in dire need is to have education about what is expected of you when you interact with police, regardless how innocent you know yourself to be. In almost every incident, there is a breakdown between what police are instructing people to do and how the public reacts. Sometimes they are getting yelled at by different police and saying different things so there also needs to be restraint from police as people sometimes panic in those high stress scenarios.

We do not have anywhere near the same type of incidents as the US has and a lot of that is people generally do what police instruct them to do. We also do not have the same type of proliferation of guns.

 

[Mr_Nyah]

I wont link the video because it is too graphic, but there is a video of two police who tasered a man in the usa and he proceeded to walk his way to his car, open the door while the police were yelling instructions to him with their guns drawn. They didn't shoot. The man pulled a gun out of the car and shot both police officers.

If you ignore instructions from police officers, there is a high probability you are going to get hurt bad or die if they think their life is going to be at risk.

We can and should be critical of police for using excessive force, but I think if anyone critical of police had to perform that job and had to witness a fairly high number of police officers shot and killed doing their job, you probably would find your attitudes would probably shift due to a desire to not die. Everyone wants to be able to go home to their families.

I think what is in dire need is to have education about what is expected of you when you interact with police, regardless how innocent you know yourself to be. In almost every incident, there is a breakdown between what police are instructing people to do and how the public reacts. Sometimes they are getting yelled at by different police and saying different things so there also needs to be restraint from police as people sometimes panic in those high stress scenarios.

We do not have anywhere near the same type of incidents as the US has and a lot of that is people generally do what police instruct them to do. We also do not have the same type of proliferation of guns.

I think you hit the nail on the head in your last comment - it's the guns. Every time a person reaches down into their car, or into their pocket, or under their shirt, or anywhere, to a cop in America that means they could be reaching for a gun. I've heard it said (but haven't verified myself) that Jason Blake was reaching for a knife. Now, a knife is less dangerous (although still a deadly weapon), and someone in Australia could also be reaching for a knife in the same situation. But it's the threat or potential of it being a gun that sets cops off. Remove guns and you remove a lot of that threat - good luck to anyone actually trying to implement that though, that will legitimately start a civil war.

 

[Tas]

I think you hit the nail on the head in your last comment - it's the guns. Every time a person reaches down into their car, or into their pocket, or under their shirt, or anywhere, to a cop in America that means they could be reaching for a gun. I've heard it said (but haven't verified myself) that Jason Blake was reaching for a knife. Now, a knife is less dangerous (although still a deadly weapon), and someone in Australia could also be reaching for a knife in the same situation. But it's the threat or potential of it being a gun that sets cops off. Remove guns and you remove a lot of that threat - good luck to anyone actually trying to implement that though, that will legitimately start a civil war.

They are also really poorly trained, which doesn't help. There has been a huge effort here and in europe on de-escalating, bad things still happen but there is more of a focus on reducing the need to use force.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Dont underestimate the racism baked into many PDs.

This is the chief who did his best to avoid putting the blame on that alt right murderer.

He said this in response to 4 young black shoplifters.

 

[Val Keating]

Dont underestimate the racism baked into many PDs.

This is the chief who did his best to avoid putting the blame on that alt right murderer.

He said this in response to 4 young black shoplifters.

America has the largest imprisonment in the world so I spose they’re already putting people “in warehouses”.

 

[Val Keating]

This dude nailed it

 

[Mav]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Polk County Sheriff advises citizens to use arms and blow away anyone who ****s around<a href="https://t.co/oS5TwS5sHV">pic.twitter.com/oS5TwS5sHV</a></p>&mdash; Wojciech Pawelczyk (@Woj_Pawelczyk) <a href="">August 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Snake_Baker]

This dude nailed it

Even more dangerous are the academic "cos players" that fill the universities and pump out a production line of messed up young people.

 

[bengrina]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Polk County Sheriff advises citizens to use arms and blow away anyone who fu**s around<a href="https://t.co/oS5TwS5sHV">pic.twitter.com/oS5TwS5sHV</a></p>&mdash; Wojciech Pawelczyk (@Woj_Pawelczyk) <a href="">August 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

When were these comments made? Imagine Simon Overland or Christine Nixon making a statement like this . What a fu**d up country

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Even more dangerous are the academic "cos players" that fill the universities and pump out a production line of messed up young people.

Well no, a 17 year old alt right kid just killed 2 people.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Well no, a 17 year old alt right kid just killed 2 people.

I see that your lack of a political filter has facilitated another absolute conclusion based upon little more than tabloid crap.





Before you retort, I get it already, they're Trump supporters/alt. right/gun nuts, and therefore incapable of truth.............in comparison to your good self.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Here's some tweets that are catered to fit snugly with your worldview:





Now tell me how you know which ones are truth?

 

[DesertRoo]

The only truth I know, is the Australian one and there’s a kid walking around with a military style assault rifle. At no stage should that be considered socially acceptable..
but emerica

 

[Val Keating]

Here's some tweets that are catered to fit snugly with your worldview:

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Now tell me how you know which ones are truth?

Were the people he killed armed with assault rifles as well?

 

[DesertRoo]

Were the people he killed armed with assault rifles as well?

Doesn’t really matter, he’s allowed to carry and felt threaten by his life.
he gets a white jury and he’s OJ’ing it.

 

[giantroo]

Super start to the day

DO NOT DRINK: Water warning issued for 99 Melbourne suburbs

UPDATE: As of 5pm Sunday August 30, water has been deemed safe to drink in all suburbs. Residents are advised to run tap water for two minutes to flush out old water and draw fresh water into plumbing before drinking. Scroll down for full list of affected suburbs Almost 100 suburbs have been...

www.3aw.com.au

 

[bengrina]

Wandering the streets with an assault rifle 'self defence' ?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I see that your lack of a political filter has facilitated another absolute conclusion based upon little more than tabloid crap.

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Before you retort, I get it already, they're Trump supporters/alt. right/gun nuts, and therefore incapable of truth.............in comparison to your good self.

Youre tweeting Mark Dice and accusing me of being in the rabbit hole?

 

[Snake_Baker]

The only truth I know, is the Australian one and there’s a kid walking around with a military style assault rifle. At no stage should that be considered socially acceptable..
but emerica

Hey, if a mob ever turns on you then your opinion about that might radically change.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Youre tweeting Mark Dice and accusing me of being in the rabbit hole?

Have I made a faux pas with a news source that only has actual relevance to you?

You are the world ****ing champion of ad hominem.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Super start to the day

DO NOT DRINK: Water warning issued for 99 Melbourne suburbs

UPDATE: As of 5pm Sunday August 30, water has been deemed safe to drink in all suburbs. Residents are advised to run tap water for two minutes to flush out old water and draw fresh water into plumbing before drinking. Scroll down for full list of affected suburbs Almost 100 suburbs have been...

www.3aw.com.au

"undisinfected"?

Like, without chlorine in it?

 

[DesertRoo]

Hey, if a mob ever turns on you then your opinion about that might radically change.

If mob ever rules, than sure I’m getting a flame thrower and stealing myself a V8 Interceptor..

 

[Val Keating]

Doesn’t really matter, he’s allowed to carry and felt threaten by his life.
he gets a white jury and he’s OJ’ing it.

Can’t get away with it. Going to counter protest armed cannot be self defence. Otherwise that defence could be used by gang members who go into someone else’s territory, shoot them and then claim self defence. Sets a very dangerous standard

 

[DesertRoo]

Can’t get away with it. Going to counter protest armed cannot be self defence. Otherwise that defence could be used by gang members who go into someone else’s territory, shoot them and then claim self defence. Sets a very dangerous standard

He’ll walk, they’ll claim he was there protecting property against an unruly mob. Nothing to do with protestors they were looters...

He’ll have a lot of sympathisers, have a look at the way the cops thanked them before and after..

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Have I made a faux pas with a news source that only has actual relevance to you?

You are the world ****ing champion of ad hominem.

You spend half your ****ing posts questioning the mental wellbeing of posters.

Yeah im comfortable as **** questioning sources that posit someone travelling interstate with an assault rifle wasnt looking for a fight.

And, he wad ably supported by the cops. He was part of the ****ing ‘mob’.