Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[Val Keating]

In Silicon Valley it’s pretty standard for meals (not just lunch) to be supplied.

It’s a ridiculous waste of company money.

 

[Val Keating]

They aren’t even 50 yet so they ain’t boomers

Lol. You are young. Does that make them gen x?

 

[Val Keating]

Has to be good for a laugh.

He’s dangerous for democracy but he’s the king of Twitter and I miss him dearly.

 

[Ligma]

Lol. You are young. Does that make them gen x?

Maybe

 

[Themanbun]

It’s a ridiculous waste of company money.

They supply meals, coffee, etc. to encourage their staff to basically live at the office. They've done the math.

 

[Val Keating]

They supply meals, coffee, etc. to encourage their staff to basically live at the office. They've done the math.

Up till now most of them were working from home. The lunches were costing Twitter $400 USD per head.

Theres a good reason that once companies go private they cut all those perks.

Back in the day you couldn’t go to a surf beach without a telecom van parked there. The SEC was just as bad. They used to put on full lunches, like roasts everyday.

 

[Themanbun]

Up till now most of them were working from home. The lunches were costing Twitter $400 USD per head.

Theres a good reason that once companies go private they cut all those perks.

Back in the day you couldn’t go to a surf beach without a telecom van parked there. The SEC was just as bad. They used to put on full lunches, like roasts everyday.

Believe me or don't believe me, your choice, but HEAPS of silicone valley feed their staff for the reason I mention, and heaps of big private firms do it here as well, for the same reason. I've only ever really associated staff free lunches with big private firms tbh.

 

[Themanbun]

I should add, San Francisco were toying with the idea of putting heavy restrictions on workplace cafeterias because they were worried that all the free workplace dining was robbing money/demand from local businesses.

 

[Val Keating]

Believe me or don't believe me, your choice, but HEAPS of silicone valley feed their staff for the reason I mention, and heaps of big private firms do it here as well, for the same reason. I've only ever really associated staff free lunches with big private firms tbh.

I believe you. I spose it comes down to how much they’re spending on them. Like a ham & cheese sandwich and a half hour break you don’t get paid for Vrs a full spread and knocking off at 4:30.

Did you see the viral video of the chick that talks about her day working at Twitter…or might have been Meta? It’s beyond absurd.

 

[ferball]

They aren’t even 50 yet so they ain’t boomers

Boomers were born before 1965 but its an attitude so they could well be.

 

[Themanbun]

I believe you. I spose it comes down to how much they’re spending on them. Like a ham & cheese sandwich and a half hour break you don’t get paid for Vrs a full spread and knocking off at 4:30.

Did you see the viral video of the chick that talks about her day working at Twitter…or might have been Meta? It’s beyond absurd.

Nah, I don't really know what twitter is like or care (not trying to be rude) what their days are like. I haven't even followed whatever's happening. Just supporting blackshadow point that free meals are common in Silicon Valley and generally, it's not because it's a money sink. When they weighed up the tax deductions, employability (workforces full of young, single out of home people with few life skills and a lot of money, and competitive drive, free cafe meals sounds appealing), extra hours they extract, keeping them on site and available to answer questions, having a cafe to feed clients so they're more likely to come on site and network, waiters coming around to meeting rooms, etc. they worked out it was the opposite of a money sink, which is why they took it up.

Wouldn't work (and by work I mean make clients money) for the average Joe's company, but for that industry, it does.

 

[Val Keating]

Nah, I don't really know what twitter is like or care what their days are like. I haven't even followed whatever's happening. Just supporting blackshadow point that free meals are common in Silicon Valley and generally, it's not because it's a money sink. When they weighed up the tax deductions, employability (workforces full of young, single out of home people with few life skills and a lot of money, and competitive drive, free cafe meals sounds appealing), extra hours they extract, keeping them onsite and available to answer questions, having a cafe to feed clients so they're more likely to come on site and network, waiters coming around to meeting rooms, etc. they worked out it was the opposite of a money sink, which is why they took it up.

Wouldn't work (and by work I mean make clients money) for the average Joe's company, but for that industry, it does.

The conversation is about Twitter though. It looks like the video has been removed. It’s absolutely ridiculous. She basically does nothing. Smoothy on arrival, whatever you want for lunch, I mean seafood to roasts, no doubt they cater for vegans and every other dietary need. Wine literally on tap, meditation room, chill on a banana lounge on the roof garden. It’s wild.

Edit- The video is in this article. You need to see it.

Twitter 'day in a life' video indicates lots of downtime, very little actual work | Blaze Media

A female Twitter employee shared a video that ostensibly gives viewers a glimpse of a typical day at the Twitter office. But rather than convince people that, once he takes over, Elon Musk should retain the current staffing levels and culture that Twitter has, the video instead suggests that...

www.theblaze.com

 

[Themanbun]

The conversation is about Twitter though. It looks like the video has been removed. It’s absolutely ridiculous. She basically does nothing. Smoothy on arrival, whatever you want for lunch, I mean seafood to roasts, no doubt they cater for vegans and every other dietary need. Wine literally on tap, meditation room, chill on a banana lounge on the roof garden. It’s wild.

Edit- The video is in this article. You need to see it.

Twitter 'day in a life' video indicates lots of downtime, very little actual work | Blaze Media

A female Twitter employee shared a video that ostensibly gives viewers a glimpse of a typical day at the Twitter office. But rather than convince people that, once he takes over, Elon Musk should retain the current staffing levels and culture that Twitter has, the video instead suggests that...

www.theblaze.com

The convo had moved to whether or not it was common and whether it was a waste of company money or not. I explained why so many companies have taken it up in our horribly dystopian world. All of those things, particularly the wine on tap, indicate a company that wants their employees at the office as long as humanly possible. Breakfast through to after-work drinks.

As for videos put out about how fun and laid back X workplace is, I trust none of it.

 

[Val Keating]

The convo had moved to whether or not it was common and whether it was a waste of company money or not. I explained why so many companies have taken it up in our horribly dystopian world.

As for videos put out about how fun and laid back X workplace is, I trust none of it.

I get that it can be done cynically to get more work out of employees, but there comes a point where it goes the other way, and it definitely went the other way at Twitter.

 

[Themanbun]

The conversation is about Twitter though. It looks like the video has been removed. It’s absolutely ridiculous. She basically does nothing. Smoothy on arrival, whatever you want for lunch, I mean seafood to roasts, no doubt they cater for vegans and every other dietary need. Wine literally on tap, meditation room, chill on a banana lounge on the roof garden. It’s wild.

Edit- The video is in this article. You need to see it.

Twitter 'day in a life' video indicates lots of downtime, very little actual work | Blaze Media

A female Twitter employee shared a video that ostensibly gives viewers a glimpse of a typical day at the Twitter office. But rather than convince people that, once he takes over, Elon Musk should retain the current staffing levels and culture that Twitter has, the video instead suggests that...

www.theblaze.com

It's just a video of one person and I've seen plenty of places with horribly bad work-life balances pump out promo videos that look like that.

 

[ferball]

The conversation is about Twitter though. It looks like the video has been removed. It’s absolutely ridiculous. She basically does nothing. Smoothy on arrival, whatever you want for lunch, I mean seafood to roasts, no doubt they cater for vegans and every other dietary need. Wine literally on tap, meditation room, chill on a banana lounge on the roof garden. It’s wild.

Edit- The video is in this article. You need to see it.

Twitter 'day in a life' video indicates lots of downtime, very little actual work | Blaze Media

A female Twitter employee shared a video that ostensibly gives viewers a glimpse of a typical day at the Twitter office. But rather than convince people that, once he takes over, Elon Musk should retain the current staffing levels and culture that Twitter has, the video instead suggests that...

www.theblaze.com

Graeber again:

 

[blackshadow]

I get that it can be done cynically to get more work out of employees, but there comes a point where it goes the other way, and it definitely went the other way at Twitter.

A very close mate of mine has worked for a few tech firms in the Bay Area and everything has been laid on as far as food and other extras such as a fully stocked bar at work.
It’s not just having workers living and breathing work it’s that the perks are expected in the industry.

 

[Val Keating]

It's just a video of one person and I've seen plenty of places with horribly bad work-life balances pump out promo videos that look like that.

Im just a carpenter. Ive never seen anything like it. We work and only sit down twice a day, or once depending on who you’re working with. I don’t take a break at all now that I have my own business, but that’s only when I’m on my own.

The closest would be a fit out we did for the Deutsche Bank office at 333 Collins Street. Even just being in that building is a pretty big deal. They had a bar and a chill out room. No doubt everyone are on salaries and work extreme long hours.

 

[Themanbun]

Im just a carpenter. Ive never seen anything like it. We work and only sit down twice a day, or once depending on who you’re working with. I don’t take a break at all now that I have my own business, but that’s only when I’m on my own.

The closest would be a fit out we did for the Deutsche Bank office at 333 Collins Street. Even just being in that building is a pretty big deal. They had a bar and a chill out room. No doubt everyone are on salaries and work extreme long hours.

Yeah it looks good on paper but when you see a bunch of soulless husks still there at 1am the grass does not look much greener. I couldn't do it!

 

[ferball]

The convo had moved to whether or not it was common and whether it was a waste of company money or not. I explained why so many companies have taken it up in our horribly dystopian world.

As for videos put out about how fun and laid back X workplace is, I trust none of it.

In that video above Graeber makes the very good point that this is what happened in the USSR.

Most of these jobs are pointless admin and management jobs.

Basically we have an economy based on bullshit jobs because if people stopped working and started thinking for themselves then the whole thing would have to change and ... puritanical bullshit like the protestant work ethic.

**** all people do real, important jobs like building houses, growing weed or tending the sick etc etc. To many over educated, unnecessary people in the world these days.

 

[Val Keating]

Yeah it looks good on paper but when you see a bunch of soulless husks still there at 1am the grass does not look much greener. I couldn't do it!

My wife works 15+ hours a day on a salary. It used to do my head in but if she wasn’t working shed go insane with boredom. I can’t for the life of me just get her to do nothing on a weekend.

 

[Themanbun]

In that video above Graeber makes the very good point that this is what happened in the USSR.

Most of these jobs are pointless admin and management jobs.

Basically we have an economy based on bullshit jobs because if people stopped working and started thinking for themselves then the whole thing would have to change and ... puritanical bullshit like the protestant work ethic.

* all people do real, important jobs like building houses, growing weed or tending the sick etc etc. To many over educated, unnecessary people in the world these days.

Agreed mate. Our productive potential has skyrocketed over the past century, yet the average person works more (pointless) hours than ever.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

This was very foreseeable. A right wing billionaire who’s fallen up his entire life with a pedo father is finding posting ******* memes doesn’t work on people who aren’t sychophants.

He walked in expecting lefties. No it’s a corporation that wants money. And his band of racist edge lords aren’t attractive to advertisers.

He’s learning this now.


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[Val Keating]

This was very foreseeable. A right wing billionaire who’s fallen up his entire life with a pedo father is finding posting ******* memes doesn’t work on people who aren’t sychophants.

He walked in expecting lefties. No it’s a corporation that wants money. And his band of racist edge lords aren’t attractive to advertisers.

He’s learning this now.


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True, but everything he touches makes money. If Twitter does go under (which I really doubt), he won’t give a ****.. well maybe his ego will take a hit.

He won’t even notice it in his bank account.

 

[DesertRoo]