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[gringo2011]

Haha

Choosing political parties is like choosing you favourite racing cockroach. The current Libs are turd smeared but Labor is still pretty much the same thing with lipstick on it. Major parties don't rule for the people I guess at least the Libs don't hide it. They have all the appeal of the pics of George Christiansen in his bondage gear but at least they don't give a **** I guess.

George Christensen on the photo that broke the internet

George Christensen said his favourite response was from comedian Magda Szubanski.

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[BigPowerForward]

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[gringo2011]

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That is why this government is a shit box. They literally don't even bother hiding their corruption any more.

 

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[plugger66]

Everybody has the right to say "pull your head in" when they perceive that they have been unfairly attacked. You included.
My attack on the (overwhelmingly) right wing media is bias? They are changing who governs this country and because you favour the criminals now in charge you think that is ok. It is not. Check your own bias.

Ugh

Pretty sure that second quote was sarcasm. I can’t stand those last 3 people. You can barrack for the right and still find hard right wingers shocking people. Well you can if you aren’t real biased. As for you being attacked by me well it was a pretty soft statement. I actually think many saints supporters are like that. No idea if you are though. That’s why I sounds like. Criminals in charge now. Wowee. That’s not biased. Not. Anyway this is a waste of time. Your ideas and my ideas are poles apart. You don’t want billionaires and I love people with money.

 

[MUFKilda]

You don’t want billionaires and I love people with money.

Plugger, doesn't it all depend upon how they made that money? If they are unscrupulous and narcissistic, it's completely different from someone who made an important difference in making that money. I'm extremely wary of anyone who wants money for its own sake and who will do anything to get it. To me that is the danger of capitalism.

 

[plugger66]

Plugger, doesn't it all depend upon how they made that money? If they are unscrupulous and narcissistic, it's completely different from someone who made an important difference in making that money. I'm extremely wary of anyone who wants money for its own sake and who will do anything to get it. To me that is the danger of capitalism.

Well I don’t love criminals with money. Pablo Escobar wasn’t a personal favourite of mine. I love people making money legally

 

[MUFKilda]

Well I don’t love criminals with money. Pablo Escobar wasn’t a personal favourite of mine. I love people making money legally

Not everything legal is moral. I have no problem with morally good people making money, provided they pay their taxes.

 

[Verdun]

Not everything legal is moral. I have no problem with morally good people making money, provided they pay their taxes.

Great post was about to post the same thing

 

[Stewart66]

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Fracking good .

If you want to see how stuffed the World is watch this

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[MUFKilda]

Well, after five months without a haircut I've had to take matters into my own hands and shave it all off. I'm several pounds lighter, but needs must. The last time I had so little hair I was about three months old.

 

[Stewart66]

This is an unfair attack, mate. Pull your head in.

You may feel that you should always respond to a post because you seem to know an awful lot about everything but just sometimes it may pay to listen to that tiny voice in your head telling you to leave it alone. Not everyone thinks exactly the same way that you do, not everyone is missing some vital piece of information or lacks repetition of information you've already furnished.

Sure I love the Saints, and sure they have not been the most successful club in history, but I love supporting them, I love the anticipation of a premiership just around the corner, I love the development of players into a team who want to win for each other, I love the little wins along the way, sometimes I am a little blind to their faults but I am loyal without being blind. I criticise where I see faults and I admit when we have been outclassed, or out-coached or whatever I assess the weakness to be that resulted in our loss. Instead of thinking that this is now set in stone I look to what we can do to overcome that fault or weakness.

My assessment of the unfair media situation causing the downfall of Shorten's campaign isn't a team barracking situation, though politics for some does seem to be that way, it was a lament of what might have been. Labor had strong policies to counter the fire risk, they had sound policies for funding of science and medicine and a much better policy for social equality and safety nets. Labor has a much better record in managing the nation's economy. Instead of good government we have a corrupt mob protected by the corruptly empowered media. Everybody except the wealthy is worse off.

'Some things were out of bounds': Fire chiefs 'gagged' on climate change warnings to government, inquiry told

Former fire chief Greg Mullins says climate change is causing "unprecedented" bushfires.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Verdun]

Well, after five months without a haircut I've had to take matters into my own hands and shave it all off. I'm several pounds lighter, but needs must. The last time I had so little hair I was about three months old.

Did the same with my young bloke last week (in prep for a funeral), he went for a buzz cut and I went for something close. At least it should be relatively warm over there while it is getting cold where I am (Tas.)

 

[George]

Haha

Does it hurt your ego knowing you are wrong?

Ego's not a dirty word by the way, maybe sometimes you should not always believe what you've seen or you've heard...

 

[plugger66]

Does it hurt your ego knowing you are wrong?

Ego's not a dirty word by the way, maybe sometimes you should not always believe what you've seen or you've heard...

Obviously you didn’t understand the joke. Read what you said and my response

 

[plugger66]

Not everything legal is moral. I have no problem with morally good people making money, provided they pay their taxes.

Up to the governments to make them pay their taxes. Don’t know about you but nearly every person I know tries to minimise their taxes. Rich or poor. No person is going to give the government money if the stupid rules allow them not to.

 

[Verdun]

Up to the governments to make them pay their taxes

Yep that is the point plugger, reckon that is happening? I don't.

Franking credits, carbon pricing one should be removed one should have been implemented but both used to argue - taxes are bad!!

 

[plugger66]

Yep that is the point plugger, reckon that is happening? I don't.

Franking credits, carbon pricing one should be removed one should have been implemented but both used to argue - taxes are bad!!

No I don’t Think any government labor or liberal are hard enough on big corporations. Now don’t get me wrong I love big corporations as they employ a lot of people but they need rules to make sure they pay their taxes. Same with rich individuals. I’m all for profit especially those companies on the stock exchange because we probably partly own them in our super but they need to pay taxes. But I don’t think they are going to volunteer money.

 

[MUFKilda]

Up to the governments to make them pay their taxes. Don’t know about you but nearly every person I know tries to minimise their taxes. Rich or poor. No person is going to give the government money if the stupid rules allow them not to.

The vast majority are not super rich, so every penny counts. Only huge earners can afford to pay accountants who search for tax loopholes, which I believe is morally wrong. Anyone who earns greatly should pay their way fairly. If I had an enormous income, I would rather pay too much than too little. If I can pay my bills, put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, I don't require anything else but regard myself as very lucky.

 

[Verdun]

No I don’t Think any government labor or liberal are hard enough on big corporations. Now don’t get me wrong I love big corporations as they employ a lot of people but they need rules to make sure they pay their taxes. Same with rich individuals. I’m all for profit especially those companies on the stock exchange because we probably partly own them in our super but they need to pay taxes. But I don’t think they are going to volunteer money.

Maybe we should look at both of their platforms and policies, I know they are different. One side of politics has a platform of making big corporations pay more tax the other doesn't. Yep both should do better, but they are different

One tried to get rid of franking credits, the other ran a scare campaign, one tried to implement a price on carbon the other ran a scare campaign.

Yep scare campaigns work.

 

[MUFKilda]

No I don’t Think any government labor or liberal are hard enough on big corporations. Now don’t get me wrong I love big corporations as they employ a lot of people but they need rules to make sure they pay their taxes. Same with rich individuals. I’m all for profit especially those companies on the stock exchange because we probably partly own them in our super but they need to pay taxes. But I don’t think they are going to volunteer money.

You own but a tiny, tiny part of them via your pension fund as a working man, which doesn't give such companies carte blanche to be immoral for profit. The ends doesn't justify the means; the vast majority of speculation goes to those who make money from money i.e. from your labour and the labour of millions of others. It's called a parasitical phenomenon.

 

[plugger66]

The vast majority are not super rich, so every penny counts. Only huge earners can afford to pay accountants who search for tax loopholes, which I believe is morally wrong. Anyone who earns greatly should pay their way fairly. If I had an enormous income, I would rather pay too much than too little. If I can pay my bills, put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, I don't require anything else but regard myself as very lucky.

Well I don’t really agree. I aim to pay as little tax as possible. I’d rather the money in my pocket than anyone else. If I was rich which I’m certainly not I would be finding loopholes. Close the loopholes and then I would have no choice but to pay what I am supposed to.

 

[plugger66]

Maybe we should look at both of their platforms and policies, I know they are different. One side of politics has a platform of making big corporations pay more tax the other doesn't. Yep both should do better, but they are different

One tried to get rid of franking credits, the other ran a scare campaign, one tried to implement a price on carbon the other ran a scare campaign.

Yep scare campaigns work.

Franking credits affecteD poor as well as rich people. It was a stupid idea. I’m not sure the carbon tax effected people so I doubt anyone really changed the way they voted.

 

[plugger66]

You own but a tiny, tiny part of them via your pension fund as a working man, which doesn't give such companies carte blanche to be immoral for profit. The ends doesn't justify the means; the vast majority of speculation goes to those who make money from money i.e. from your labour and the labour of millions of others. It's called a parasitical phenomenon.

Well all my super is effected by companies making more or less money. It’s not tiny for me. It’s 100% of my super. As I said I think they need to pay their taxes but they aren’t going to volunteer it. I also want them to make money for me. Selfish maybe but I don’t care.

 

[MUFKilda]

Well I don’t really agree. I aim to pay as little tax as possible. I’d rather the money in my pocket than anyone else. If I was rich which I’m certainly not I would be finding loopholes. Close the loopholes and then I would have no choice but to pay what I am supposed to.

The super rich who employ accountants to use said loopholes are a disgrace, in my humble opinion. I would rather pay the tax than pay accountants, for the benefit of all. I suppose we all different priorities. Not trying to act morally superior, Plugger, I'm merely trying to adhere to the things I believe are right, and I believe a money obsessed society is dangerous.