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[Persevering Saint]

Dad jokes??

I work at a theological college. We're thinking of teaching our students how to make holy water. It's pretty easy actually: you just boil the hell out of it.

 

[Persevering Saint]

Im gonna start saying "grammer nazi" instead just to upset them even more.

It's all the mother of Hitler's mum's fault.

Flipping Grandma Nazi...

 

[VDS66]

I work at a theological college. We're thinking of teaching our students how to make holy water. It's pretty easy actually: you just boil the hell out of it.

Failing that you can teach them to recycle toilet paper... hang it up and beat the crap out of it...

 

[austinnn]

I'm seeing it more and more with my work these days. It's crazy.

People settle on a house then it's back on the market after 3 months.

Old couple selling. Husband is 75 with cancer. Turns out it's a divorce. I mean WTF?

Anyway, I think there are many reasons why. Not so much because we are getting older.

Constant fear.
Marketing which promises instant magic solutions.
Obsession with material possessions.
Giving a shit and getting angry over things that don't matter.
Helicopter parenting.
Personal definition of success.
How we are judged by our peers based on financial status or what work we do.
A sense of disconnect as the world changes at a rapid rate.
Information overload.

The list goes on and on.

People's lives are so over complicated it's not funny.

Too much focus on the me and not enough on the we.

There's too much media that tells you if you don't have the life you want then it's someone's fault, so we blame others and abdicate our responsibilities to society.

I'm about as non-religious as you can get, yet I sometimes wonder if as a newly secular society (I'm including France, the UK and Australia here, the 3 countries I've lived in, long-term), we've struggled to replace the church, in terms of community.

It's a loaded statement, so I need to qualify it by confirming I'm happy that the church has less of a grip on our lives than it did a generation or two ago and it is said that morality and ethics existed before the main religions were established.

However, I often doubt that we have an adequate secular infrastructure in place to deal with the range of issues that current society faces, and we are forced to go it alone. Many people seem to need guidance, and most of us do occasionally.

But this decentralisation of focus and duty may be at the root of us looking within rather than around. Freedom has its own burden, and each of us is now in the position of looking for those answers the hard way, and more relevantly, ultimately a different way.

 

[austinnn]

I'm about as non-religious as you can get, yet I sometimes wonder if as a newly secular society (I'm including France, the UK and Australia here, the 3 countries I've lived in, long-term), we've struggled to replace the church, in terms of community.

It's a loaded statement, so I need to qualify it by confirming I'm happy that the church has less of a grip on our lives than it did a generation or two ago and it is said that morality and ethics existed before the main religions were established.

However, I often doubt that we have an adequate secular infrastructure in place to deal with the range of issues that current society faces, and we are forced to go it alone. Many people seem to need guidance, and most of us do occasionally.

But this decentralisation of focus and duty may be at the root of us looking within rather than around. Freedom has its own burden, and each of us is now in the position of looking for those answers the hard way, and more relevantly, ultimately a different way.

That said, it could be argued that once the communities got bigger and the metropolis replaced the town, and people started moving around, the church was operating an outdated system anyway.

 

[Drake Huggins]

It's all the mother of Hitler's mum's fault.

Flipping Grandma Nazi...

There are three types of people in this world. Those who can count and those who can't. An honourable mention to, My doctor told me I'm overly obsessive and worried about my body parts. Bullshit, I cried. I have one testicle that is clearly bigger than the other three

 

[George]

I work at a theological college. We're thinking of teaching our students how to make holy water. It's pretty easy actually: you just boil the hell out of it.

Jesus

 

[CursingFijian]

Thank you St Kilda bored! When I read that you are not worried about speling and granma it means a great weight left off my shoulders. At last I am freedom. No more asking my wife to cheque and overwrite my posts to make it more claret. I can just uplol it myself. She is laffing her head off saying she wont have to read anymore hitposts about St Kilda. But dont worry my frenz I have told her she can keep her english skillz and chauffeur it where the sumo doesnt shines. From now on I can just espresso myself without any worry about being attacked for my poor alphabets.

Thank you once again my fellow St Kilda posers.

 

[StCicatriz]

That said, it could be argued that once the communities got bigger and the metropolis replaced the town, and people started moving around, the church was operating an outdated system anyway.

I was listening to a podcast that said the very nature of Catholicism meant it would create and promote science and its own detriment

We certainly are missing the teaching of deeper leanings that religion gave and im not religious.

 

[VDS66]

I'm about as non-religious as you can get, yet I sometimes wonder if as a newly secular society (I'm including France, the UK and Australia here, the 3 countries I've lived in, long-term), we've struggled to replace the church, in terms of community.

It's a loaded statement, so I need to qualify it by confirming I'm happy that the church has less of a grip on our lives than it did a generation or two ago and it is said that morality and ethics existed before the main religions were established.

However, I often doubt that we have an adequate secular infrastructure in place to deal with the range of issues that current society faces, and we are forced to go it alone. Many people seem to need guidance, and most of us do occasionally.

But this decentralisation of focus and duty may be at the root of us looking within rather than around. Freedom has its own burden, and each of us is now in the position of looking for those answers the hard way, and more relevantly, ultimately a different way.

Fair call.

I think too many people are living lives based on what other people tell them they should be.

It's not easy to have the strength to say **** it, I'm creating my own life and don't care what others think.

Speakingvfor myself, it all came to a head a few years back with all the pressures of expectation and chasing a life that I believed would lead me to happiness.

However, once I went through the "know thyself" process, I gained clarity and perspective.

Ultimately, I believe 99% of people are looking for inner peace and happiness. It's the way they go about searching for those answers, and pursuing the wrong answers is what causes the anger and unrest IMO only.

This, I believe is greatly influenced by what we are fed, which forms our belief systems.

Politics, media, advertising and education.

 

[VDS66]

I was listening to a podcast that said the very nature of Catholicism meant it would create and promote science and its own detriment

We certainly are missing the teaching of deeper leanings that religion gave and im not religious.

There was a great documentary on Netflix. I'll get the name and post it. All about life design and expectations.

 

[MUFKilda]

A lot of people struggle with spelling and grammar. I'm a bit OCD myself with the issue, I must admit, but I just think it's rude to be pulling people up about it. It's an internet forum, not a university exam. I sometimes make a typo myself, but leave it; it isn't the end of the world in this context. Taking the piss out of someone for it is totally unacceptable; he/she may already be self-conscious about the issue.

 

[Teflon]

There was a great documentary on Netflix. I'll get the name and post it. All about life design and expectations.

Hey mate this sounds interesting if you dig out the Netflix doc name and post that’d be appreciated
Cheers

 

[MUFKilda]

As a highly educated man (if I may say), that grammar nazi crap drives me crazy. it's rude and elitest. Besides, it shows a complete lack of respect for people who have other forms of expertise. It's a footy forum for heaven's sake, not a peer reviewed journal.

For the most part, most people are an expert, or really good at something. Now, often that may not be spelling, and it may not be an area that I or others are usually interested in. But guess what: not many people are interested in 17th century toleration of religious minorities in England (my PhD topic), so who am I to judge.

We're experts on the St Kilda footy club, and a fair bit besides (as this and other threads attest) . As long as you get your point across, who gives a stuff about spelling, etc.

As someone from a Catholic background, I can tell you for certain the Protestants cheated during the English Reformation and we want a replay

Thankfully, I'm an atheist and can let bygones be bygones

 

[VDS66]

Hey mate this sounds interesting if you dig out the Netflix doc name and post that’d be appreciated
Cheers

Just been searching and can't find it.

I think it was Finding Your Element from memory.

Could be wrong.

He discussed how we set out with expectations of how our life will be in the future, and that it never works out that way, so we feel angry and depressed about life.

Happiness is a spiritual state not a material state.

 

[MUFKilda]

Tropical Manchester may hit 29 degrees today. State of national emergency can't be far off.

It's sweltering.

 

[Teflon]

Just been searching and can't find it.

I think it was Finding Your Element from memory.

Could be wrong.

He discussed how we set out with expectations of how our life will be in the future, and that it never works out that way, so we feel angry and depressed about life.

Happiness is a spiritual state not a material state.

Interesting idea on spiritual v material state
Religion aside, you get the feeling that previous generations did fall back on religion a lot more and maybe had the balance between spiritual and material better attuned than today, where people seem to fall back on postcode house value more for who they are..maybe just nostalgia who knows
I do think there is definitely less community and an attitude of go it alone today and less concern for community involvement
Cheers

 

[luca77]

Tropical Manchester may hit 29 degrees today. State of national emergency can't be far off.

It's sweltering.

No it's not.

 

[luca77]

Im gonna start saying "grammer nazi" instead just to upset them even more.

This is exactly how WWII started.

 

[MUFKilda]

No it's not.

Oh yes it is!

 

[luca77]

Oh yes it is!

Hang in there champ! 47.8 near Melbourne airport a summer or 2 back. If 29 is sweltering you're gonna run out of adjectives before you get to 40.

 

[MUFKilda]

Hang in there champ! 47.8 near Melbourne airport a summer or 2 back. If 29 is sweltering you're gonna run out of adjectives before you get to 40.

We have never had forty, ever. We would all be dead in such weather. If we hit thirty, society may collapse.

 

[Joffaboy]

The safest place I've ever worked and lived, from a purely security aspect, was in was Tehran. Seriously. No alcohol was probably a major reason, as was the fact if you were considering acting up, there was the religious police to deal with as well as the rank and file coppers, who all seemed to be armed with automatic weapons. So if you could put up with those factors, the pay off was that it was relatively safe to walk the streets at any time. Penalties for offending were savage as well. An interesting study in trading civil liberties for safety. Personally, I'd much rather live here. That would also apply if you are a woman.......

No alcohol in Tehran? Feckon hell, not the Tehran I visited with Iranian friends.

Not in the street of course, but in homes flowed as freely as I have ever seen in Australia.

Don't get caught though.

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[luca77]

We have never had forty, ever. We would all be dead in such weather. If we hit thirty, society may collapse.

Nah, just takes an adjustment. Like drinking beer icy cold.

 

[Joffaboy]

I'm about as non-religious as you can get, yet I sometimes wonder if as a newly secular society (I'm including France, the UK and Australia here, the 3 countries I've lived in, long-term), we've struggled to replace the church, in terms of community.

It's a loaded statement, so I need to qualify it by confirming I'm happy that the church has less of a grip on our lives than it did a generation or two ago and it is said that morality and ethics existed before the main religions were established.

However, I often doubt that we have an adequate secular infrastructure in place to deal with the range of issues that current society faces, and we are forced to go it alone. Many people seem to need guidance, and most of us do occasionally.

But this decentralisation of focus and duty may be at the root of us looking within rather than around. Freedom has its own burden, and each of us is now in the position of looking for those answers the hard way, and more relevantly, ultimately a different way.

Don't we have capitalism and materialism for the winners of capitalism. Losers can feck off and have their penalty rates and services cut.
Pray at the alter of mammon

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