Opinion Rank our list

[i am a logo]

Somewhat inspired by the "List Rankings" thread over at the Bulldogs board.

1. Nic Nat
2. Mark Lecras
3. Josh Kennedy
4. Jack Darling
5. Luke Shuey
6. Sharrod Wellingham
7. Andrew Gaff
8. Dean Cox
9. Darren Glass
10. Josh Hill
11. Eric MacKenzie
12. Chris Masten
13. Matt Priddis
14. Beau Waters
15. Scott Selwood
16. Shannon Hurn
17. Will Schofield
18. Mitch Brown
19. Xavier Ellis
20. Callum Sinclair
21. Elliot Yeo
22. Murray Newman
23. Jamie Cripps
24. Jacob Brennan
25. Matt Rosa
26. Sam Butler
27. Brad Sheppard
28. Adam Carter
29. Mark Hutchings
30. Scott Lycett
31. Blayne Wilson
32. Jamie Bennell
33. Simon Turnbridge
34. Fraiser Mcinnes
35. Brant Colledge
36. Jeremy McGovern
37. Pat McGinnity
38. Ashley Smith

Draftees: Dom Sheed, Malcolm Karpany, Tom Barrass, Dylan Main, Will Maginness, Rowen Powell

 

[Keys]

Is that based on ability or importance to the side or a combination of both?

 

[i am a logo]

Is that based on ability or importance to the side or a combination of both?

Both

 

[PRANKSTER666]

My top 5 would be:

NicNat
Kennedy
Hurn
Glass
Mackenzie

 

[eagles rule]

Somewhat inspired by the "List Rankings" thread over at the Bulldogs board

eMac is in top 5 for mine and scooter is top 10

 

[Shupe]

Somewhat inspired by the "List Rankings" thread over at the Bulldogs board.

4. Jack Darling

Darling too high.

10. Josh Hill
11. Eric MacKenzie
12. Chris Masten
15. Scott Selwood
16. Shannon Hurn
27. Brad Sheppard

Josh Hill ahead of any of those guys is just plain wrong. I know it's a matter of opinion, but it's wrong. Do you seriously think that Josh Hill is more important to our side than an AA-level fullback?

You also need to be a bit clearer in what the list is ranking. Importance to the side and 'ability' are vastly different concepts, and it's quite difficult to morph the two into one single list.

 

[Marlin01]

Nicholas Nat - we look a different team when he's up and about.
Hurn - hopefully it changes this year, but since Wirra retired, he's been our only attacking avenue out of defense.
McKenzie
Shuey - probably our best chance of an elite mid
Kennedy

 

[i am a logo]

Darling too high.


Josh Hill ahead of any of those guys is just plain wrong. I know it's a matter of opinion, but it's wrong. Do you seriously think that Josh Hill is more important to our side than an AA-level fullback?

You also need to be a bit clearer in what the list is ranking. Importance to the side and 'ability' are vastly different concepts, and it's quite difficult to morph the two into one single list.

Well the first 25 or so players are ranked purely on ability since they're all equally important, whilst players like McGovern, Mcinnes and Brant Colledge are ranked on importance since we haven't seen them play a lot of footy.

 

[Shupe]

Well the first 25 or so players are ranked purely on ability since they're all equally important, whilst players like McGovern, Mcinnes and Brant Colledge are ranked on importance since we haven't seen them play a lot of footy.

Ok. So you think Hill is a better player than Mackenzie, Masten, Selwood and Hurn. They are ranked on ability, so it's not like you're overrating the need for a non-crumbing small forward. Instead, you're just massively overrating Hill himself.

 

[lmach]

Ranked by importance:

1. Naitanui
2. Mackenzie
3. Kennedy
4. Hurn
5. Shuey
6. Glass
7. Cox
8. LeCras
9. Darling
10. Masten
11. Selwood
12. Wellingham
13. Gaff
14. Yeo
15. Priddis
16. Waters
17. Rosa
18. Ellis
19. Hill
20. Schofield
21. Brown
22. Sheppard
23. Butler
24. Hutchings
25. Cripps
26. Carter
27. Lycett
28. Newman
29. Smith
30. Tunbridge
31. Bennell
32. McGovern
33. Colledge
34. McInnes
35. Brennan
36. Wilson
37. McGinnity
38. Sinclair

That was really hard.

 

[nameless]

You've let your own opinion of the player, rather than their ability get in the way of posting a legitimate list.

Ash Smith (I'm not a huge fan), is not the worst player on our list, you clearly just don't like the guy.
How is he worse than 3 players who've never played for West Coast and a couple who have played 1 or 2 games and not shown much.
Le Cras isn't our 2nd best player, potentially top 5 or top 10.
Rosa at 25 is again showing bias you clearly just don't like him, in what way is Brennan better than him?
Just so many players out of place.

Not that there is any correct answer the question, but when it's so obviously wrong I don't know how you can expect a proper discussion.

 

[Keys]

Thats a pretty good efffort lmach

 

[i am a logo]

I don't know how you can expect a proper discussion.

Well the whole purpose of the thread is for others to rank our list like lmach did, not to just critique the OP's list.
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[Miguel Sanchez]

Sinclair at 20?

 

[nameless]

Well the whole purpose of the thread is for others to rank our list like lmach did, not to just critique the OP's list.
.

Well if you're not willing to back up your list with reason and logic, what's the point?

How boring is a thread of 100 lists?

 

[Keys]

How boring is a thread of 100 lists?

I'd put in my list of boring threads list

 

[i am a logo]

Sinclair at 20?

He was outstanding early last year

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

He was outstanding early last year

He was decent. I'd argue Lycett was better at the end of the year and you've got him 10 places lower.

 

[QS]

Anyone with Priddis outside the top 10 is dreaming - he is above Gaff etc until we have someone else who can act as primary focal point for clearances.

 

[Keys]

Anyone with Priddis outside the top 10 is dreaming - he is above Gaff etc until we have someone else who can act as primary focal point for clearances.

Beetleguise

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I'd rate players on importance and determine importance by impact.

Using such a method Gaff is more important than Sir Priddis.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

He was outstanding early last year

This explains why you have Hill so high.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

I'd rate players on importance and determine importance by impact.

Using such a method Gaff is more important than Sir Priddis.

I agree. I'd argue we could cope without Priddis in the midfield without losing out as i'd be confident that someone like Shuey, Selwood, Hutch or Welligham could take his place in the centre and help the mid unit be more effective as there'd be less 30 metres unsighted bombs forward. Therefore i wouldnt have him inside the top 10 or maybe even 20.

 

[QS]

I agree. I'd argue we could cope without Priddis in the midfield without losing out as i'd be confident that someone like Shuey, Selwood, Hutch or Welligham could take his place in the centre and help the mid unit be more effective as there'd be less 30 metres unsighted bombs forward. Therefore i wouldnt have him inside the top 10 or maybe even 20.

That's foresight.. you don't know that for sure. I am looking at runs on the board and like him or not, Priddis has those.
It's like saying Tunbridge is more important than Darling because take Darling out and he could take his place in the forward line and do just as good a job. You simply do not know.

I'd rate players on importance and determine importance by impact.

Using such a method Gaff is more important than Sir Priddis.

Gaff was terrible last year, impact was close to zero at times; even Priddis provided more impact than him. You're only as good as your last season.

 

[pantskyle]

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