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It's Judgment day for Ken
By Garry Lyon

Thursday, July 26, 2001

Coach may carry can for Eagles' dive

THERE are four teams definitely out of the race for this year's finals.

Two of them sacked their coach mid-season, while another parted ways with its president, for the time being at least, bringing forward an uneasy truce just moments before the outbreak of civil war that, had it happened, would still be waging.

That the war was averted out of respect for the team's performance is perhaps the greatest irony. Melbourne have again fallen victim to the ''roller-coaster syndrome'' that has plagued the club for the best part of a decade.

Neale Daniher warned last year that the club had a history of getting too comfortable with success, and performing poorly the following year. Now, after a Grand Final appearance, they are in the mix for the title of most disappointing team of the year.

Which leaves us with West Coast and the future of its coach Ken Judge. Three wins from 16 games, all of them against its companions in the bottom four on the ladder, an average losing margin of 54 points and the worst percentage of all, (63.3 per cent), including the hapless Freo.

As is always the case, when a side is performing at the level that the Eagles are at the moment, the heat ultimately is turned on the coach.

While the team he parted company with at the end of season 99, and many of the players he nurtured and introduced to football, head towards a position in the top four and their second consecutive finals appearance, Judge will be left to deal with the fallout of leading his side to its second bottom four position in two years.

Priority draft selections will be the reward for such a year. But taking a line through the history of football clubs, highlighted again by events of last week, and their intolerance of mediocrity, there has to be a question about whether Judgey will be around to make those decisions.

Their guns are ageing and tiring, with retirement looming for at least one of their all time greats, their youngsters have stagnated and their middle age bracket have not played the roles that might have been expected of them.

The football world has just about finished feasting itself on the St Kilda carcass, having filled their bellies earlier in the season with Fremantle.

They know they don't have to store anything away for a post-season banquet because the Melbourne board elections will more than sate the appetite there, so right now the blowtorch is being cranked up and the Eagles are looming on the menu.

West Coast are a proud organisation that has enjoyed amazing success.

They were a major player in every finals series in the 90s, enjoying two premierships and the mantle of one of the league's most powerful, financial and imposing clubs.

Sitting back and watching last year's finals campaign for the first time in 10 years would have been a strange experience it would have hoped to rectify very quickly.

But it hasn't happened. In fact, it has got much worse.

The decision to draft a host of players from other clubs was questioned at the start of the year and will be questioned even more strongly at the end.

COLLINGWOOD drafted mature players from other clubs to complement their kids and it has worked. They still have the youngest list in the competition.

The Eagles added Trent Carroll, Michael Collica, Richard Taylor, Greg Harding, Mark Merenda, Michael Prior, David Sierakowski and Troy Wilson. Injury robbed them of Sierakowski and Prior, and that hasn't helped, but the return from the rest would have to rate as disappointing. How many of these will still be running around in two years?

With Kemp, Jakovich, Peter Matera, McIntosh and Cummings all in the twilight of their careers, now would have been the ideal time to take a punt on young talent.

There would be some pain in the short term, and wins would be hard to come by. But no more pain than is being experienced at the moment, and at least with young talent there is the hope, enthusiasm and optimism of untapped improvement to sustain you through the dark times.

Watching them at times this year there has been a sense of resignation about the way they have played, and the results would suggest that that has been the case.

History will tell us that, at the Hawks, Judge endured two poor years, 15th in 1997 and 13th in '98, before they began their climb up, eventually missing the finals by half a game in his last year.

Whether or not he gets the chance to orchestrate a similar revival at the West Coast remains to be seen.

With the coaching comings and goings still in full swing for some time yet it will be one to watch closely.

Man the guy is a tool, knows absolutely nothing about WC this season. Our recruits have been crap have they??? Go look at Richard Taylors average stats for the game d***head. Likewise, look at who Carroll has had to face up to this season!

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I think his comments are spot on.

The players have no respect for Ken Judge - it's obvious. They are not motivated by him at all. An example of this is when we beat Melbourne - Judgy didn't give the pre match spiel to the boys, it was Kempy. From his motivational speach, the boys ran out determined to win. I haven't seen them do that all season - because Judge usually gives the speach before the game.

The sooner West Coast get rid of him, the better. Our players will blossom with a coach who has more respect. These are not my words, but words from some of the players themselves.
 
The heart of his column is about recruiting and it shows he clearly has not been watching.
He mentions The Eagles added Trent Carroll, Michael Collica, Richard Taylor, Greg Harding, Mark Merenda, Michael Prior, David Sierakowski and Troy Wilson.
Apart from Harding I have no complaints about any of these signings, in fact to the contrary 'where would we be without them?'. He missed Daniel Kerr of course. Arguably Wilson has been our best forward, Merenda best half forward, Kerr brilliant on the ball, Collica our best half back and Carroll making a good fist of replacing Milli.
Blood youngsters, yes, but you have to put some experience around them so they can learn.
The Eagles tragedy has been INJURY not recruiting. Last year we had great seasons from Jako and Kempy with Milli so good he was named 'the glove' Braun and Wirrapunda were coming back with Scotty and Joey. This season the lazy Gehrig had gone and our depth was strengthened enormously.
We lost Sierra, Glass and Mili in the first game and Read in the Ansett. Jako was already recovering from an of season injury. Kempy never played a full game and neither wil Donners (brilliant at times last season). Banners, Morrisson and Prior had knee injuries too. Cummings never got injury free and fit and even Gaspar has been injured. THESE ARE THE REASONS BEHIND THE TRAGEDY.

The question we have to ask, though, is whether we would have been successful with no injuries.

I think the answer is 'no' because Judge is a poor motivator, tactically devoid of inspiration, the players mostly don't respect him and he has brought a poor/negative culture to the club.

I don't think that the blow outs and head dropping would have happened more than once under Malthouse, Sheedy or a host of other coaches. Judge is simply not up to it.
 
Garry Lyon is a tosser. Its obvious he hasnt seen many Eagles games this year. The recruits have been great for us this year, apart from Seira and Harding the rest have been really good for us and i i think we would be a lot worse off if they werent in Eagles jerseys this year.

He also said none of them would be around in two years??? Collica is still young as is Carroll and both showed enough to be around in years to come, im not sure of the ages of Merenda, Taylor and Seira though.

Anyway i believe we should give him one more year. In the third year of his Hawthorn reign he got them to 9th and half a game outside the finals. Its only his second year, and with a few guys to come back from injury, all the rookies will get better next year and maybe with some good trading and drafting we could be alright next year.

Dont love Judge but im willing to give him a chance.
 

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