Record v Pt Adelaide

[crowie]

I was thinking about our record against Port Adelaide and decided to look at it from a different angle, I know we havent beaten them often but when we do, we tend to give them a bit of a hiding.

Here is the aggregagate score between Adelaide v Port Adelaide over 17 showdowns

Port - 223.189. 1527
Adel - 221.184. 1510

That's only 17 points behind even though they have won 5 more games than us. Three more kicks and we've got 'em.

 

[DaveW]

Funny that. I did the exact same calculation last Sunday. (Probably would've posted it if we were ahead. )

The 11-6 scoreline certainly belies the closeness of many of the contests.

 

[crowie]

Funny that. I did the exact same calculation last Sunday. (Probably would've posted it if we were ahead. )

The 11-6 scoreline certainly belies the closeness of many of the contests.

I've got a feeling that the wood has changed hands so hopefully we can post the aggregate with us in front after Rnd 19.

 

[*PAF]

We won a number of games by a small margin but most of those were never in doubt, and thus the final score is not really a good indicator of our domination in showdowns.

 

[crowie]

We won a number of games by a small margin but most of those were never in doubt, and thus the final score is not really a good indicator of our domination in showdowns.

I think it shows that when Port are getting beaten early they drop their heads and lets the crow do as they please (weak as p.ss!)

The Crows don't give up until the final siren blows.

 

[Sheeds]

I think it shows that when Port are getting beaten early they drop their heads and lets the crow do as they please (weak as p.ss!)

The Crows don't give up until the final siren blows.

Yes that must be it.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I was thinking about our record against Port Adelaide and decided to look at it from a different angle, I know we havent beaten them often but when we do, we tend to give them a bit of a hiding.

Here is the aggregagate score between Adelaide v Port Adelaide over 17 showdowns

Port - 223.189. 1527
Adel - 221.184. 1510

That's only 17 points behind even though they have won 5 more games than us. Three more kicks and we've got 'em.

Interesting stat, but at the end of the day it is the win/loss record that matters when I walk out of the stadium after the game either happy or ********ty!

 

[Crow-mosone]

We won a number of games by a small margin but most of those were never in doubt, and thus the final score is not really a good indicator of our domination in showdowns.

bit of a contradiction there. A game with a small margin, never in doubt?

hmmm...

 

[DaveW]

bit of a contradiction there. A game with a small margin, never in doubt?

hmmm...

Yes, the line that the close results were merely a result of late goals to the Crows has been propagated before by Port supporters here.

Of course those of us who watched those showdowns know different.

They probably say the same thing about the round two match against Brisbane.

 

[*PAF]

... They probably say the same thing about the round two match against Brisbane.

Never got to see the end of that game as I was washing my trousers by then.

 

[kirky]

Aggregate margins for both sides

Port Adelaide 233 points (11 games = winning margin 21 points)
Adelaide 216 points (6 games = winning margin 36 points)

When we win we do it comfortably - we just got to get the wins up.

 

[*PAF]

bit of a contradiction there. A game with a small margin, never in doubt?

hmmm...

Unfortunately that has been one of Choco's bad traits over the last couple of years. Once a game is in the bag, he does not bury the opposition. Painful to watch actually.

 

[noddy]

Unfortunately that has been one of Choco's bad traits over the last couple of years. Once a game is in the bag, he does not bury the opposition. Painful to watch actually.

Well he managed to do it in the gf last year.


Our win/lost record against Port is not the greatest but the closeness of those losses suggest that there was not that much in them.

No matter the positions of the clubs on the ladder or the relevant form leading up to the game most showdowns are 50/50.

that is though on condition that Port actually turn up for the game not like the very enjoyable display they put on last sunday when they had their arses spanked by our so-called bunch of nobodies.

Anyway i prefer the scoreline of 2 out of 3 to the Crows.

 

[*PAF]

...Anyway i prefer the scoreline of 2-3 to the Crows.

2-3?
Nostradanoddus are we?

 

[noddy]

2-3?
Nostradanoddus are we?

I beg your pardon.


2 out of 3 to the Crows.

 

[*PAF]

I beg your pardon.


2 out of 3 to the Crows.

Phew!
For a moment I thought those new garbs you are wearing had given you strange powers.

 

[noddy]

Phew!
For a moment I thought those new garbs you are wearing had given you strange powers.

Yes they do look pretty good on me don't they ??

compliments of wharfie.

 

[*PAF]

Yes they do look pretty good on me don't they ??

compliments of wharfie.

I PML when I saw it.
Set it up as the background on the computer.

 

[Macca19]

I think it shows that when Port are getting beaten early they drop their heads and lets the crow do as they please (weak as p.ss!)

Dunno about that one. There have been a number of Showdowns where the Crows have seemingly been in the box seat but didnt get up. First one that came to mind was at the end of 2001 where the Crows were 6 goals up early in the second quarter before Port kicked something like 13 of the next 14 goals. Match was essentially over at 3/4 time before the Crows kicked the last couple of goals to cut the margin down (a choco trait as PAF said)

First match of 2002 was exactly the same. Crows got out and held a 3-4 goal lead for most of the first three quarters before Port came back in the last and Peter Burgoyne won the game.

I agree with PAF in that there have been a number of close margins but the result was never really in doubt. There have been quite a number of Port wins where theyve basically won the game by mid last quarter before a quick Crows resurgence has got the game going again. Ill name them too. The one up there I mentioned (2001 game) we were 5 goals up midway thru the last quarter before you kicked the last 3 goals. The two 2003 games Port were in control for the whole match but the Crows couldnt get any closer than 2-3 goals.

Youve probably thumped us 3 times (Showdown 4, 15, 17), weve thumped you probably 2 times (Showdown 8 & 9).

 

[macca23]

Phew!
For a moment I thought those new garbs you are wearing had given you strange powers.

There ARE some strange things going on under that garb!!

 

[DaveW]

I agree with PAF in that there have been a number of close margins but the result was never really in doubt. There have been quite a number of Port wins where theyve basically won the game by mid last quarter before a quick Crows resurgence has got the game going again. Ill name them too. The one up there I mentioned (2001 game) we were 5 goals up midway thru the last quarter before you kicked the last 3 goals. The two 2003 games Port were in control for the whole match but the Crows couldnt get any closer than 2-3 goals.

Sheer revisionism.

When we got close enough there was time enough to win. (At least in the case of the two games in 2003; 2001 wasn't televised here.)

So to say the match was "never in doubt" is a stretch.

 

[Macca19]

The first amtch of 2003 (the Burgoyne bump on Bassett) although the margin was never anymore than 20 points or so the Crows never led and never looked like winning the match. The second match the Crows would have been favourites to get up at 3/4 time as i said but a Pickett inspired start to the last quarter put Port up by 5 goals or so before the Crows kicked the last 2. Once Pickett kicked those opening goals in the first few minutes the Crows werent going to win.

2001 we kicked 13 goals in a row or some such and ended up over 30 points in front 5 minutes into the last quarter. The Crows kicked the last 3 goals.

Generally they have been close games. Good contests, a lot better than the first 7 years or so of the Western derby.

 

[crowie]

SD1 A 11.06.72 v Pt 11.17.83 Port by 11pts
SD2 A 09.11.65 v Pt 09.04.58 Crows by 7pts
SD3 A 08.16.64 v Pt 11.07.73 Port by 9pts
SD4 A 22.12.144 v Pt 10.10.70 Crows by 74pts
SD5 A 18.07.115 v Pt 12.15.87 Crows by 28pts
SD6 A 09.14.68 v Pt 13.14.92 Port by 24pts
SD7 A 14.14.98 v Pt 13.13.91 Crows by 7pts
SD8 A 14.08.92 v Pt 20.19.139 Port by 47pts
SD9 A 13.10.88 v Pt 23.15.153 Port by 65pts
SD10 A 15.09.99 v Pt 16.11.107 Port by 8pts
SD11 A 12.10.82 v Pt 14.06.90 Port by 8pts
SD12 A 11.10.76 v Pt 12.12.84 Port by 8pts
SD13 A 09.12.66 v Pt 12.06.78 Port by 12pts
SD14 A 12.06.78 v Pt 14.10.94 Port by 16pts
SD15 A 17.17.119 v Pt 13.09.87 Crows by 32pts
SD16 A 09.06.60 v Pt 12.13.85 Port by 25pts
SD17 A 18.16.124 v Pt 08.08.56 Crows by 68pts

A 221.184.1510 v Pt 223.189.1527

I highlighted the ones that can be safely called comfortable wins

 

[Crow-mosone]

SD1 A 11.06.72 v Pt 11.17.83 Port by 11pts
SD2 A 09.11.65 v Pt 09.04.58 Crows by 7pts
SD3 A 08.16.64 v Pt 11.07.73 Port by 9pts
SD4 A 22.12.144 v Pt 10.10.70 Crows by 74pts
SD5 A 18.07.115 v Pt 12.15.87 Crows by 28pts
SD6 A 09.14.68 v Pt 13.14.92 Port by 24pts
SD7 A 14.14.98 v Pt 13.13.91 Crows by 7pts
SD8 A 14.08.92 v Pt 20.19.139 Port by 47pts
SD9 A 13.10.88 v Pt 23.15.153 Port by 65pts
SD10 A 15.09.99 v Pt 16.11.107 Port by 8pts
SD11 A 12.10.82 v Pt 14.06.90 Port by 8pts
SD12 A 11.10.76 v Pt 12.12.84 Port by 8pts
SD13 A 09.12.66 v Pt 12.06.78 Port by 12pts
SD14 A 12.06.78 v Pt 14.10.94 Port by 6pts
SD15 A 17.17.119 v Pt 13.09.87 Crows by 32pts
SD16 A 09.06.60 v Pt 12.13.85 Port by 25pts
SD17 A 18.16.124 v Pt 08.08.56 Crows by 68pts

A 221.184.1510 v Pt 223.189.1527

I highlighted the ones that can be safely called comfortable wins

thanks, clearly this "never in doubt" sh*te is just that - sh*te.

 

[What_the]

Anyway i prefer the scoreline of 2 out of 3 to the Crows.

Really? you're easily pleased. I prefer 8 out of the last 10 but hey we've all gotta work with what we have.