Required - one centre half forward

[Yoda_]

Very good game from both sides. Just thought i would let you know that it just goes to show that even though you say that you will not go through Fevola all the time, you still need a true CHF to share the workload with Fevola. And before you do, you arent going to press for a premiership without one, your midfield can only do so much.

Cameron Cloke is not the answer as much as you are blinded by his physicality.
Matthew Kruezer is a ruckmen, not a CHF as some carlton supporters seem to think.
And Waite is a backmen who can play forward, when needed.

With no young KP forwards coming through your ranks (they all seem to be injured) you are really going to struggle.

just thought i would see what you, as Carlton supporters think.

 

[THEBLOODS85]

I hate patronising supporters from other clubs.........what about you?

Tell me, would you be here asking this question on the back of a four point loss.........no, I did not think so, see ya!

 

[Beloved]

Very good game from both sides. Just thought i would let you know that it just goes to show that even though you say that you will not go through Fevola all the time, you still need a true CHF to share the workload with Fevola. And before you do, you arent going to press for a premiership without one, your midfield can only do so much.

Cameron Cloke is not the answer as much as you are blinded by his physicality.
Matthew Kruezer is a ruckmen, not a CHF as some carlton supporters seem to think.
And Waite is a backmen who can play forward, when needed.

With no young KP forwards coming through your ranks (they all seem to be injured) you are really going to struggle.

just thought i would see what you, as Carlton supporters think.

I think that tonight we had a solid forward performance in regards to chances. I also think that if Fevola had kicked two or three more of his goals, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Simon Wiggins and Cameron Cloke are both very capable of playing at Centre Half Forward, and I don't quite understand your comment about us being blinded by Cloke's physicality. Could you please elaborate on that for me?

 

[Yoda_]

I think that tonight we had a solid forward performance in regards to chances. I also think that if Fevola had kicked two or three more of his goals, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Simon Wiggins and Cameron Cloke are both very capable of playing at Centre Half Forward, and I don't quite understand your comment about us being blinded by Cloke's physicality. Could you please elaborate on that for me?

he is a physical player, yes, do not get me wrong, but he just does not seem to have that much forward awareness about his game, it just seems to be, lead here, attempt mark, thats it, there is no thinking about the game really. just a view on the situation.

 

[The_Baby_Blues]

he is a physical player, yes, do not get me wrong, but he just does not seem to have that much forward awareness about his game, it just seems to be, lead here, attempt mark, thats it, there is no thinking about the game really. just a view on the situation.

isn't that what a forward is meant to do ? produce a lead and take the grab?. He might not have to much forward awareness because hes been a ruckmen all hes life and where slowly converting him into a forward, each round he is showing great signs of improvement and i don't see why he cant over take hes brother travis as the best cloke out of the brothers. have a look at the stats of this year you'll see cloke has pulled just as good stats if not better then travis. Cloke is still learning the CHF position but i'm seing good signs.

 

[Beloved]

he is a physical player, yes, do not get me wrong, but he just does not seem to have that much forward awareness about his game, it just seems to be, lead here, attempt mark, thats it, there is no thinking about the game really. just a view on the situation.

It's interesting to read your opinion on things.

Cloke is more of the pack-marking type of forward. Leading isn't usually his forte' unless he's running into a pack, and his positioning at Centre Half Forward takes a lot of attention off of Fevola (as you may have seen tonight, as Fev was playing one-on-one for most of the game).

He's a unit is Clokey. Personally, I think that he plays a key role at Centre Half Forward for us, as I've touched on with the attention being taken off of Fev.

 

[HBF]

Yeah, we would like a quality CHF, but if you have a look at a couple of the better teams in the comp right now in Geelong and Western Bulldogs, they don't have a quality CHF either, and they don't seem to have an issue winning football matches.

Their quality is in their midfield, and hitting up targets up the ground. This is what we are building as well, and as long as we can get enough ball into the forward line, we should be able to kick a winning score more often than not.

 

[blues_gibbzy]

Cloke and Wiggins were definetly some of our better players.

 

[BlueYoss]

Yeah, we would like a quality CHF, but if you have a look at a couple of the better teams in the comp right now in Geelong and Western Bulldogs, they don't have a quality CHF either, and they don't seem to have an issue winning football matches.

Their quality is in their midfield, and hitting up targets up the ground. This is what we are building as well, and as long as we can get enough ball into the forward line, we should be able to kick a winning score more often than not.

You don't rate the Big Hairy Cat?

He was very good on Thursday night, really straightened them up going forward, which is exactly what a CHF should do.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Very good game from both sides. Just thought i would let you know that it just goes to show that even though you say that you will not go through Fevola all the time, you still need a true CHF to share the workload with Fevola. And before you do, you arent going to press for a premiership without one, your midfield can only do so much.

Cameron Cloke is not the answer as much as you are blinded by his physicality.
Matthew Kruezer is a ruckmen, not a CHF as some carlton supporters seem to think.
And Waite is a backmen who can play forward, when needed.

With no young KP forwards coming through your ranks (they all seem to be injured) you are really going to struggle.

just thought i would see what you, as Carlton supporters think.

Providing most of what we need as a CHF. Like him to kick more goals rather than dish it off but generally couldn't be happier with his workrate and output.

 

[Gibba]

I wish we traded Fisher instead for Judd, Kenedy would have been pretty handy at the moment.

 

[Slattery_20]

Yeah, we would like a quality CHF, but if you have a look at a couple of the better teams in the comp right now in Geelong and Western Bulldogs, they don't have a quality CHF either, and they don't seem to have an issue winning football matches.

Their quality is in their midfield, and hitting up targets up the ground. This is what we are building as well, and as long as we can get enough ball into the forward line, we should be able to kick a winning score more often than not.

Geelong have Mooney, & at least he provides a marking presence. Plus Stevie J & Chapman also mark pretty well above their size. Doggies just have the 4 or 5 mid-sized blokes, working off mobility & speed - Murphy effectively is a CHF, just a very different sort.

IMHO it's what's holding you back (once you get Jamison back in). Lack of the genuine #2 forward. Wiggins was at his peak last night, don't think he's got a lot more in him. You've got the serious avenue to goal, you've got a crumber, just need one other presenting if you ask me (which you probably didn't ) When Fev's off, there needs to be someone else.

I don't think C Cloke will ever overtake Trav. Not ever.

 

[BlueYoss]

I wish we traded Fisher instead for Judd, Kenedy would have been pretty handy at the moment.

a) West Coast didn't want Fisher (although I've heard they wanted Walker).
b) Kennedy is, as he was for most of last year, out injured. That's not very handy.

 

[krayfesh]

CHF is a dead art anyway. We need to let our forwards work together for the year and show their improvement.

I have no doubt Fev, Betts, Houlihan, Wiggins, Cloke and Yarran can work together to form a classy forward line.

I wouldn't mind a more mobile Cloke. Like Walker.

 

[Slattery_20]

I always thought Waite would end up a forward. Very creative. In fact you guys lost a lot when he had to play tight last night, going in a bit short in defence. Need another Jamison or Waite.

 

[Beloved]

Our Forwardline is not the problem. We have shown this time and time again by consistantly kicking well over 100 points in our games, win or lose. Our problem is defensive pressure in the Midfield and cutting off power forward's leads.

 

[Mister Carlton]

Very good game from both sides. Just thought i would let you know that it just goes to show that even though you say that you will not go through Fevola all the time, you still need a true CHF to share the workload with Fevola. And before you do, you arent going to press for a premiership without one, your midfield can only do so much.

Cameron Cloke is not the answer as much as you are blinded by his physicality.
Matthew Kruezer is a ruckmen, not a CHF as some carlton supporters seem to think.
And Waite is a backmen who can play forward, when needed.

With no young KP forwards coming through your ranks (they all seem to be injured) you are really going to struggle.

just thought i would see what you, as Carlton supporters think.

WANTED:
WE NEED 1 TALL FORWARD AND 2 TALL BACKMEN.
Can we please not draft midfeilders this year.

 

[Blue Girl 4 life]

a) West Coast didn't want Fisher (although I've heard they wanted Walker).
b) Kennedy is, as he was for most of last year, out injured. That's not very handy.

I was looking at the injury lists last week on the afl website and I did not see Kennedy's name. I just looked on the wce site to see their injury list and Kennedy isnt on that one either and it says
This page is updated on a Monday afternoon each week in-season.
Im just wondering if you know anything about the injury as Im trying to follow him at the eagles, but havent seen much of him, and can't seem to find that he is injured ....

A centre half forward would be nice, but i think we need another tall defender. we have a few avenues to goal at the moment. i think we need another tall defender.

 

[HBF]

You don't rate the Big Hairy Cat?

He was very good on Thursday night, really straightened them up going forward, which is exactly what a CHF should do.

Looks he's a good player in a very very good team. He's certainly not your classic CHF, but he does push up the ground, and the delivery is so good from his mids, he usually gets it lace out.

 

[BlueYoss]

I was looking at the injury lists last week on the afl website and I did not see Kennedy's name. I just looked on the wce site to see their injury list and Kennedy isnt on that one either and it says
This page is updated on a Monday afternoon each week in-season.
Im just wondering if you know anything about the injury as Im trying to follow him at the eagles, but havent seen much of him, and can't seem to find that he is injured ....

A centre half forward would be nice, but i think we need another tall defender. we have a few avenues to goal at the moment. i think we need another tall defender.

I didn't, but you questioned my claim to I had to do some research in attempt to back it up and it seems as though you are right and he is not injured anymore.

He hurt his knee in a collision with Embley at training after playing the first round of the NAB Cup and missed a few weeks but has played in round 2 and 4 for East Fremantle in the WAFL with reasonable numbers.

The point is that he can't seem to break into a side that finished 15th last year and are still bottom 4 and doesn't seem to be tearing it up in the WAFL either.

 

[Silvagnis]

With no young KP forwards coming through your ranks (they all seem to be injured) you are really going to struggle.

Then I guess the Bombers 17th flag is in the bag and you have nothing to worry about because Gumbleton and Neagle are the future of your forwardline.

We must have missed the news flash that stated we wouldn't be allowed to draft another key forward after trading Kennedy.

 

[Blue Girl 4 life]

I didn't, but you questioned my claim to I had to do some research in attempt to back it up and it seems as though you are right and he is not injured anymore.

He hurt his knee in a collision with Embley at training after playing the first round of the NAB Cup and missed a few weeks but has played in round 2 and 4 for East Fremantle in the WAFL with reasonable numbers.

The point is that he can't seem to break into a side that finished 15th last year and are still bottom 4 and doesn't seem to be tearing it up in the WAFL either.

I know what your point was, i was just wondering because i hadn't heard anything about thats all, Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Beloved]

WANTED:
WE NEED 1 TALL FORWARD AND 2 TALL BACKMEN.
Can we please not draft midfeilders this year.

Welcome to the club Chris Yarran (forward), Mitch Robinson (defender), Rhys O'Keeffe (defender) and Caleb Tiller (forward/back).

Please do some study.

 

[Beloved]

Kreuzer will CHF. Get used to it.

What games have you been watching? Last time I checked, Kreuzer and Jacobs have been sharing ruck duties with Cam Cloke playing at CHF.

 

[krayfesh]

Kreuzer won't be CHF until Hampson and Warnock become awesome.

Seriously, how good did we look with Kreuzer rucking?