RFC--Use the compo pick

[pcara]

My thoughts are we should use this pick in this draft.This draft appears to have quality kids well into the 30's,which we should utilize.
Bring in another kid know and let him grow with this current crop of kids.

With 2 extra teams and priority picks etc in the coming years who is to say that our compo pick won't be in the mid 20's anyway.

Use it now RFC

 

[Toadvine]

Those who use it now will regret not waiting until 2012. It's going to be a very good draft.

Patience is a virtue.

 

[Tiger_Stripes]

Francis Jackson and co. will have looked at all the avaliable draftees this year.

They will have chosen their favourites

They'll have estimated the ranges these kids will fall into

If there's no need to use the pick we won't use it just for the hell of it.

 

[pcara]

Those who use it now will regret not waiting until 2012. It's going to be a very good draft.

Patience is a virtue.

This draft looks very strong Toady.We may be able to snare Ben Jacobs.

 

[Toadvine]

It's very easy to want and get attached to a player but believe me when the 2012 draft comes along you'll be wishing we had more picks. Logic says that because that pick will be higher than it would be in this years draft we'll get a better player than Jacobs anyway.

 

[_RT_]

Those who use it now will regret not waiting until 2012. It's going to be a very good draft.

Patience is a virtue.

You have to think, if GC or any other team fail to win 4 or more games in 2011-2012 they will priority picks, then you have the other compo picks which no-one knows if they will be awarded in ladder order from the year they were given or the year you use them.

My thoughts are if we think we're a better than 85% chance of getting a player we're after then we should use it now. It might mean getting say Jacobs and Mitchell. Doing that would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

 

[folester41]

toadvine is right, as much as i can see where everyone is coming from, and i wish we could add a quality youngster now and get two years into him, we have to wait till the pick has more value so our development is continuous and all our eggs arent in the one basket.

 

[Toadvine]

We'll just have to agree to disagree I don't know what else I can say. It may just be a case of the devil you know is better than the one you don't. But Logic and reports say that because the 2012 draft is not only uncompromised but also of a very good quality that we'll be able to pick a player of higher calibre.

 

[_RT_]

We'll just have to agree to disagree I don't know what else I can say. It may just be a case of the devil you know is better than the one you don't. But Logic and reports say that because the 2012 draft is not only uncompromised but also of a very good quality that we'll be able to pick a player of higher calibre.

If the club chooses to hold it then great, all the better for future years. I'm just stating what I would do, but then again I've never been that good at saving.

 

[partycorolla]

My thoughts are we should use this pick in this draft.This draft appears to have quality kids well into the 30's,which we should utilize.
Bring in another kid know and let him grow with this current crop of kids.

With 2 extra teams and priority picks etc in the coming years who is to say that our compo pick won't be in the mid 20's anyway.

Use it now RFC

Nah, save it for 2012 or 2013... it'll be low 20's at worst i expect

 

[W. Smithers]

Save it and then try and get another one or two next year.

 

[juss]

Save it and then try and get another one or two next year.

exactly.
I'd prefer to hold it.
If we grabbed another one or two next year, we could potentially have ourselves 3-4 top 25 picks in the 2012 draft without even finishing low.

Also, if we finish high(ish) say top 8 in 2012, our first picks are likely to be 10,30 or something along those lines. Holding onto the compo pick could give us something like 10,20,30 in a draft that hasn't had any youngsters taken out of it. It might be slower, but might help in giving us a longer, sustained level at the top.

Another point, saving it might mean we traded Tambling for pick 20, which to me is a much better deal than Tambling for pick 30, odd way to look at it I know, but essentially that's what it will be.

 

[The Rusty Trombone]

I'd hold onto it for more trade value for anywhere between 2012-2014 depending on our needs. Imagine if this group progresses how we'd like it to over the next 2 - 3 years and all we are missing is a Ruckman as an example

bye bye compo pick and 3rd rounder hello Shane Mumford to head home to Vic and we keep our first rounder.

I think the Tambling trade was a cracker for teams like us that are thinking long term even though I'd still be very excited to see us make the 8 next year .

 

[UpTheGuts]

Bugger that we have to decide before we know who's there at that pick.

Happy to hold, though.

 

[Deledio2Conca]

Hold it....if by then we are challenging for/making finals, an extra top 20 pick will be very handy to either a) Draft more talent when our picks wont be so high, or b) Will give us some great trade bait.

 

[TigerTime88]

As tempted as I would be to use it this year, it is better to hold off. This year will be pick 26 or 27 which I highly doubt will secure Ben Jacobs. The worst it will be in 2012 is say pick 21 or 22 in an uncompromised draft.

In an uncompromised draft that puts you in the range of a player like Pitt, Harper, Watson to put it in todays players terms.

Not to mention in 2012 free agency comes in and we will look to secure a big name there, but also I am sure we will try and secure a young gun Victorian from interstate wanting to return home.

Essentially at the end of the 2012 season hopefully we have made the 8, we have a top 10 pick for finishing 8th, we can sign a big name with the cash we are freeing up for free agency and we can use pick 20 to trade for a need. All hypothetical but I envisage that is the way Cameron, Hartley, Dimma and Jackson are thinking.

 

[Bruce Monteath]

Save it. Please.

 

[Morro]

It is great to see the club taking a long term view for the future of our club. It shows a united off field approach and noone looking for a quick fix.

As much as i would love to get another potentially good player this year, I honestly believe it is on our best interest to bank the pick.

 

[Bruce Monteath]

Morro, I would argue even the AFL cannot forsee the true impact of clubs banking their compensation picks and how it will ultimately affect future drafts.

Clubs who do not have one eye on the future, ignore it at their peril.

 

[telsor]

Pick ~35 now ( when you factor in the 17yos they got last year )
Vs
Pick ~20 in 2/3/4 years.

Hold it.

Further, we still can trade it next year when it'll be worth more ( as the recipient will only need to hold it 1 year to collect full value ).

 

[brjafi]

Pick ~35 now ( when you factor in the 17yos they got last year )
Vs
Pick ~20 in 2/3/4 years.

Hold it.

Further, we still can trade it next year when it'll be worth more ( as the recipient will only need to hold it 1 year to collect full value ).

Exactly, the perfect reason to hold on to the pick!

 

[TJTIGER]

Exactly, the perfect reason to hold on to the pick!

Just too many good reasons to ignore banking this trade for the future wether we use it or trade it.

 

[Barnzy]

They've already stated in this new plan they expect to play finals from 2012 onwards. I guess they see that as our window. That's another story really but if you were planning smartly you'd use the pick now and get the extra 2 years development into a kid. Whereas a team like Geelong may wait the 2 years.

Drafts are impossible to perfectly predict 6 months out let alone 2 years. Players previous rated very highly slide, others go up the charts for a number of varying reasons. There's nothing wrong with this draft from all reports, a lot of quality. Only problem with it is teams don't have access to many picks inside the top 30-40 because of the GC. That won't be a problem with the compo pick. Really it's a pick now in the late 20's or 2 years down the track in the early 20's. A bird in hand is worth more than 2 in the bush. Use the pick now if we think we can get a good player. Makes much more sense to me.

 

[tugga]

They've already stated in this new plan they expect to play finals from 2012 onwards. I guess they see that as our window. That's another story really but if you were planning smartly you'd use the pick now and get the extra 2 years development into a kid. Whereas a team like Geelong may wait the 2 years.

Drafts are impossible to perfectly predict 6 months out let alone 2 years. Players previous rated very highly slide, others go up the charts for a number of varying reasons. There's nothing wrong with this draft from all reports, a lot of quality. Only problem with it is teams don't have access to many picks inside the top 30-40 because of the GC. That won't be a problem with the compo pick. Really it's a pick now in the late 20's or 2 years down the track in the early 20's. A bird in hand is worth more than 2 in the bush. Use the pick now if we think we can get a good player. Makes much more sense to me.

Completely agree.
Another pick inside the top 30 in a draft where the top 30 are rated highly is a no brainer. Plus the kid gets an extra 2 years to develop.
Pick 26 holds some currency now.
Wait two years and it might slink back to under 80c like the Aussie dollar will.

 

[Cathal Brugha]

Do we have to state our position before the draft? Or can we wait till our name is called and 'pass'? If we can wait till the last second and someone of the ilk of Jacobs or Prestia is available then I say use it. Remember, last year we picked up some beauties after the second round. I am sick of waiting and have faith in FJ and the boys.