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I agree, but as I said there is probably more factors that tie the two together.
Rhys Palmers Disposal Efficiency?
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I think it's a pretty long bow to be drawing in regards to judging a player's ability. The only relevant bit there is the number of his I50s that are going to a teammate. If there is evidence that he is turning them all over, then sure, I'll agree, but otherwise, I don't think it's relevant.
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I wasnt making any comment on his ability..I was trying to say his kicking inside 50 could do with a touch up.
the main problem with palmer's kicking is his awkward action and occasionally misses targets with the right
however he usually cops the first tag so many of his kicks are under pressure
however he usually cops the first tag so many of his kicks are under pressure
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But you have no evidence to show that. You are saying he's had this many kicks inside 50, but only this many goal assists. You don't have anything to show where his kicks inside 50 have gone. They may have gone to a teammate 40m out, who has a shot on goal and it goes out on the full. How does Palmer improving his kicking inside 50 solve that?
You are trying to turn the GA stats into an efficiency of the I50 stat. I don't think you can.
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Do you think he hits targets inside 50 most of the time? Do you think he doesnt sometimes rush the ball into inside 50..? His field kicking is fine..but going inside 50 where he struggles.
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I can't say I've ever noticed any distinct difference. The truth of it is that he doesn't stuff up too many of his kicks at all. I think you're just trying to find fault for the sake of it and you are trying to loosely tie two unrelated statistics to provide some kind of proof.
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Im not saying plamer is a bad kick but he gets the ball in space ALOT of the time and has plenty of time to stedy a focus on his kick.
You can tell the difference between a player like palmer's kick compared to say someone like gary ablett who is forced to kick under pressure alot and still has one of (if not) the best kick in the afl.
You can tell the difference between a player like palmer's kick compared to say someone like gary ablett who is forced to kick under pressure alot and still has one of (if not) the best kick in the afl.
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but whenever scott west kicks/kicked it he had pressure, whereas nathan buckley got fed the ball outside the packs a bit.
Exactly. Harves feels no need to "advertise" Rys , reckons His footy does all the advertising necessary.
We should leave it at that.
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Are you serious?
There is a reason Palmer's kicking is under the spotlight. Are you telling me from those inside 50's he has hit a target every single time and the player on the end has missed? Because that isnt the truth..
I aint trying to find a fault, I am explaining to you why his kicking is under the spotlight, yet you refuse to believe it and come up with he doesnt stuff up too many kicks..
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Where did I say he has hit every target? I'm querying your evidence that he has missed as many as you seem to think he has.
Are you saying that because his stats are 64 I50, but only 10 GA, he's missed 54 targets?
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Palmers kicking is fine from a stationary position but his kicking on the run is below average.
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Rioli is kicking to Franklin, Roughie and Williams.
Palmer is kicking it to Pavlich, Tarrant and Farmer.
I think it would have something to do with who they are kicking it to as well.
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Correct you are Sir.
Palmer needs to learn to slow down a bit, compose himself when he's kicking while hes running flat out, His disposal is fine, but often he's running as hard as he can and lets himself down by not settling down for the last few steps and kicking. Many times you see him bust it running hard, down the lines, only for his kick to drop short
His kicking is FINE, Its not of a Cotchin Ilk, but its nothing too concerning, once He irons that out (which he seems to be doing now, noticed its gotten better over the season with more confidence)
It probably stems from a fear of getting caught out in a faster Pace then what he's used to play, many blokes have to tweek 1-2 things from going from U-18's into the AFL, Palmer is no different
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You are right delirious. If you go over Palmer's early games - from the pre-season and maybe 1 or 2 in the proper season, he was caught a few times with the ball each game because he hadn't adjusted to the pace. He has learnt and it doesn't happen anymore.
He shanked a couple of kicks in a game early on in the year too and he got a reputation for poor disposal. He doesn't make any more mistakes than any other player now and works harder than most. Unfortunately, lazy journalists have already made up their mind on him.
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Correct, delirious.
As I said, he needs to work on it..
As I said, he needs to work on it..
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Spot on ndot. He's a shocker, and that Pavlich bloke is a absolute choker. And we're stuck with them both because by the sounds of it no other teams would want them anyway. Except maybe a team without a forward line that also has lost it's gun midfield. 
Truth is he's been one of the best first year recruits in history. Any the Aussie way is to find a way, any way to cut the tall poppies down. So these envious Aussies will continue to chop away at the tall poppies and us Freo supporters will continue to enjoy watching these champs evolve.
Truth is he's been one of the best first year recruits in history. Any the Aussie way is to find a way, any way to cut the tall poppies down. So these envious Aussies will continue to chop away at the tall poppies and us Freo supporters will continue to enjoy watching these champs evolve.
oh my god get over the rioli vs palmer thing. If there was no rising star there would be no discussion!
Both are fantastic first year players. Why are we all trying to badmouth the other just to prove that our guy is better (in our totally unbiased opinions of course).
Palmer will get the nod, Rioli is a worthy second place getter, both have had brilliant first seasons
Both are fantastic first year players. Why are we all trying to badmouth the other just to prove that our guy is better (in our totally unbiased opinions of course).
Palmer will get the nod, Rioli is a worthy second place getter, both have had brilliant first seasons
