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Rick18 said:
That's a good point, and I think it falls into the 'because they can't' category. Have a look at India before the one day series a couple of months ago, talking themselves up and trying to imitate the Aussie's on-field behaviour. They made themselves look like idiots and subsequently lost the series 4-2.

Look at most touring sides before they start their Test series. They're always talking themselves up, saying they can match Australia, in this, this and that, and they always get their a** handed to them.
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I think you are missing an important point. The behaviour of the Australians degenerated when a side was actually taking it up to them. If you think that Australia were the better side in this test, then you are delusional. India were well on top in this contest and then all this onfield shit started happening.

I'm all for gamesmanship and doing what needs to be done to give yourself an advantage, just don't cry innocent when the opposition gives it back to you.
 
Roosurgence said:
I think you are missing an important point. The behaviour of the Australians degenerated when a side was actually taking it up to them. If you think that Australia were the better side in this test, then you are delusional. India were well on top in this contest and then all this onfield shit started happening.

I'm all for gamesmanship and doing what needs to be done to give yourself an advantage, just don't cry innocent when the opposition gives it back to you.
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Ok, I never mentioned anything about this Test, and obviously Australia weren't the better side, and a draw would have been the correct outcome in the end.

The fact of the matter is, this whole issue has been blown out of proportion. All it comes down to is Harbhajan and Symonds and their dispute. The Aussies were most likely sledging, no doubt about it. But 'crying innocent when the opposition gives it back to you'? Harbhajan racially taunted him, and that's not acceptable.
 
Roosurgence said:
I think you are missing an important point. The behaviour of the Australians degenerated when a side was actually taking it up to them. If you think that Australia were the better side in this test, then you are delusional. India were well on top in this contest and then all this onfield shit started happening.

I'm all for gamesmanship and doing what needs to be done to give yourself an advantage, just don't cry innocent when the opposition gives it back to you.
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Actually, the Aussies were on top before this started. India were 7-345 chasing the Aussies 463. With Harbajan batting, they turned what looked to be a 1st innings deficit into a 69 run lead.
 
Manbearpig said:
Actually, the Aussies were on top before this started. India were 7-345 chasing the Aussies 463. With Harbajan batting, they turned what looked to be a 1st innings deficit into a 69 run lead.
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Yep, things aren't going our way so lets get stuck into this bloke. Wahhh Wahhh, mommy he isn't fighting fair, hes calling me names.
 

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On a morning in which there have been calls for the sacking of Ricky Ponting as test captain, amid public disenchantment toward the Australian team, the worlds most revered commentator, Richie Benaud, has defended the embattled leader.

In the midst of Australia’s controversial last gasp SCG victory, followed by a three test ban on Harbhajan Singh for racial taunts – a process triggered by Ponting on day three of the Sydney test - a News Limited poll suggests 82% of the Australian public do not believe Ponting is a good ambassador for cricket.
“I’m with the eighteen (percent) who say yes,” Benaud told Channel Nine’s Today Show.
“I think he’s done an outstanding job since he’s come in. He’s made them hungry to win again.”
“They play it in good spirit. They play it hard.”
Sydney Morning Herald columnist Peter Roebuck has called for the ‘arrogant’ Ponting to be sacked as captain by Cricket Australia. Roebuck attacked Ponting for ‘not showing the slightest interest in the well-being of the game’. Benaud was savage in his response.”The thought of Ponting being sacked – I think that’s absolute nonsense,” Benaud said.
“The article also said ‘sack Hayden, sack Gilchrist and Michael Clarke should never be vice captain’. I don’t think much of this piece.
“As a man, Ponting is a good guy. As a captain, he had a fall away in that period when England won the Ashes, because he was paying too much attention to other people in the team. He’s lifted himself after 2005. I have a lot of confidence in him.”
Benaud, one of Australia’s most successful captains, also pointed to the hysteria on Monday, when the Indian touring squad waited in its bus outside a Sydney hotel for two hours, before postponing a trip to Canberra. As the media feasted on the sensational element of a story, Benaud believes there was a simple explanation for India’s lock down, hours after Harbhajan was suspended.
“The actual truth of the matter was what (India) were doing, quite logically and sensibly, was waiting for (match referee) Mike Proctor’s report. The Indians had to have their appeal in for that within 24 hours. It’s quite logical for them to wait for the report, otherwise how would they have the grounds for an appeal?”
As is stands, the remainder of the tour is off until further notice, however Benaud has little doubt the BCCI will reverse its decision to suspend the tour.
“The tour will go on. The Indians will appeal against the Singh decision. Once they’ve appealed, Harbhajan Singh can play until the hearing is held,” Benaud said.
 
Roosurgence said:
I think you are missing an important point. The behaviour of the Australians degenerated when a side was actually taking it up to them. If you think that Australia were the better side in this test, then you are delusional. India were well on top in this contest and then all this onfield shit started happening.

I'm all for gamesmanship and doing what needs to be done to give yourself an advantage, just don't cry innocent when the opposition gives it back to you.
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No one is crying innocent. They are crying racist. Quite different.
 
dont know if it has been said but....

over-doing an appeal is bullsh*t!

isnt the whole purpose of appealing to convince the umpires that it was out? and isnt the whole idea of playing a sport to win no matter what you have to do?

aussies were smart and and appealed (even if it wasnt technically out) which put alot of pressure on the umpires and finally convinced the umpires that they took a wicket which won them the game. it happens everywhere in every sport, all the time!

so the people here that are arguing about the over-appealing thing. are you basically saying if you were playing for australia and it was close and you had a chance to help australia break an all-time record you would not appeal to convince the umpires it was out and then lose the game....lose everything you have been playing for, for that entire 5 days....

so appealing is there for a reason...so the players can put in some input of what they think. but now players have come to take advantage of the system and do things like appeal even though they know its not out and good on them i guess. whatever helps them win!
 
BLmatt_20 said:
dont know if it has been said but....

over-doing an appeal is bullsh*t!

isnt the whole purpose of appealing to convince the umpires that it was out? and isnt the whole idea of playing a sport to win no matter what you have to do?

aussies were smart and and appealed (even if it wasnt technically out) which put alot of pressure on the umpires and finally convinced the umpires that they took a wicket which won them the game. it happens everywhere in every sport, all the time!

so the people here that are arguing about the over-appealing thing. are you basically saying if you were playing for australia and it was close and you had a chance to help australia break an all-time record you would not appeal to convince the umpires it was out and then lose the game....lose everything you have been playing for, for that entire 5 days....

so appealing is there for a reason...so the players can put in some input of what they think. but now players have come to take advantage of the system and do things like appeal even though they know its not out and good on them i guess. whatever helps them win!
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An appeal is an appeal. You can scream black and blue in the face, but if the ump doesn't agree, then its not out.

Those appeals from the Indians when Symonds and Ponting knicked it were very loud and animated, but the ump didn't give them out.
 
Cricket is not cricket anymore, everyone should play baseball, then it wouldn't matter if you took drugs or whatever,,,
Now back to the footy and my new hero, L Brown, hope he gets the monkey off his back this season.
 
Just replying to your other post in the other thread MBP. Yep we have 5 on 2. Who would you believe?

After what happened in India,i would definately believe Roy
 
India would never appeal when they think it is not out or know it is not out! Bull$$$t

All teams appeal when they think the umpire might give it out regardless of whether they think it is out or not, this has been happening ever since the game started.

Can anyone tell me why the panel of neutral umpires was put in place? I believe it was to stop people like Javed Miandad having the LBW law taken out of the game just for them. Or any or the sub-continent countries umpires doing the same for their countries.:eek:
 
Harry29 said:
Can anyone tell me why the panel of neutral umpires was put in place? I believe it was to stop people like Javed Miandad having the LBW law taken out of the game just for them. Or any or the sub-continent countries umpires doing the same for their countries.:eek:
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Because India asked for it.:rolleyes:
 

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Manbearpig said:
Actually, the Aussies were on top before this started. India were 7-345 chasing the Aussies 463. With Harbajan batting, they turned what looked to be a 1st innings deficit into a 69 run lead.
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Id say the whole thing started when Symonds was not given out for caught behind and then not out when stumped and it snowballed from there. The Aussies probably wouldnt have got any where near 463 in the first innings if the umpires did there job properly.
 
DarwinRoo said:
Id say the whole thing started when Symonds was not given out for caught behind and then not out when stumped and it snowballed from there. The Aussies probably wouldnt have got any where near 463 in the first innings if the umpires did there job properly.
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Look, the umpiring was terrible, no question. But it is how you respond that is the measure of character.

If it was the Aussies that lost on the end of bad umpiring, then I would be furious if our team and administration carried on about it for days after. I would want my team to put their heads down, work hard, improve themselves and hopefully next time the umpiring will be better, we'd play better and we could win.
 
DarwinRoo said:
It was shown on Channel 9 during the test match. Did you actually watch the test match at all?
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Yeh i did but some times you have other things to do. I only get home about 12 so i would 've missed some of the game and would only see highlights of what happened prior.
 
Manbearpig said:
Look, the umpiring was terrible, no question. But it is how you respond that is the measure of character.

If it was the Aussies that lost on the end of bad umpiring, then I would be furious if our team and administration carried on about it for days after. I would want my team to put their heads down, work hard, improve themselves and hopefully next time the umpiring will be better, we'd play better and we could win.
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Exactly what the roos did.
 

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Manbearpig said:
Indeed, that principle should apply to all sports.

That Eagles game last year at TD, the umpiring was shocking, but you can't do anything about it, and if you do, you just come across as a bad sport.
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Not saying it applies to the cricket situation, but we should have made some more noise about that match, otherwise as we've seen in most situations with the club in 07, silence leaves the club requiring a jar of vasaline.


Surprised not many people have brought up the 1st half of the 07 QF.
 
Ryz said:
Not saying it applies to the cricket situation, but we should have made some more noise about that match, otherwise as we've seen in most situations with the club in 07, silence leaves the club requiring a jar of vasaline.


Surprised not many people have brought up the 1st half of the 07 QF.
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Well, maybe i'm the only one. Yes that game was horrible,but we got on with things and smashed the Hawks the following week.


*not in the mood for hawks excuses*
 
Ryz said:
Not saying it applies to the cricket situation, but we should have made some more noise about that match, otherwise as we've seen in most situations with the club in 07, silence leaves the club requiring a jar of vasaline.


Surprised not many people have brought up the 1st half of the 07 QF.
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That's fair enough, but I don't agree with that stance.

You need to cop it on the chin and get on with it I reckon.
 
Harry29 said:
Can anyone tell me why the panel of neutral umpires was put in place? I believe it was to stop people like Javed Miandad having the LBW law taken out of the game just for them. Or any or the sub-continent countries umpires doing the same for their countries.:eek:
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Yeah, I believe that Miandad was never given out LBW in Pakistan...
Speaking of the sub-continent umpires, Asaud Rauf is the umpire replacing Mark Benson for the third test...he's from Pakistan :eek:
 

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