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dr nick said:
Go away suzi - God you talk rubbish :rolleyes:

I believe they even recently legalised cannabis over there.
Yeah they have legalised that as well as dope smoking. But they banned cigerette smoking over there due to the high death rate caused from smoking related illnesses.
 

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evo said:
I must admit I thought it was rooves too. :o

I guess I'll say rooftops in future to be safe.

It was definitely rooves & hooves when I went to school, maybe it has been dropped to hoofs & roofs because of the tendency to phonetic spelling these days, I looked it up on the net though & rooves was listed.
 
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DaveW said:
How many times have you had your clothes go smelly or had the fresh morning air ruined by someone shouting "Go Crows"?
The couple of times i've been to AAMI Stadium.
 
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otaku said:
Thats funny - none of my dictionaries list rooves as a plural for roof.

However, they all list roofs.
Is that an American dictionary??

I'm confused :confused:
 
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mantis said:
It was definitely rooves & hooves when I went to school, maybe it has been dropped to hoofs & roofs because of the tendency to phonetic spelling these days, I looked it up on the net though & rooves was listed.

Ignore them Mantis, they're all a mob of pooves! :)
 
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It would appear there is not much consensus. I've found pages that say it is rooves, not the commonly held roofs, and then pages that say it is roofs, not the commonly held rooves. And one that says rooves is correct only in spoken english, and not written. How you can say it is different in spoken but if you write it down it changes. So I guess the following is correct.

"Wow I like rooves!" exclaimed johnny as he climbed on the roofs.

For mine it is roofs - but yes they are all US dictionaries because the english/aussie ones all seem to charge subscripition.
 
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OK I asked my son & he said it is rooves, he said you never have an "s" after an "f" to make it plural, eg: knife-knives, wolf-wolves, roof-rooves, hoof-hooves.
 
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mantis said:
OK I asked my son & he said it is rooves, he said you never have an "s" after an "f" to make it plural, eg: knife-knives, wolf-wolves, roof-rooves, hoof-hooves.
firstly... knife
secondly... chef
 
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dr nick said:
firstly... knife
secondly... chef

Yeah I know it's knife, but it still has the f , chef is an exception, like a lot of rules in english, i before e except after c, there are exceptions there as well, that's why the english language is so hard to learn.
 

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mantis said:
OK I asked my son & he said it is rooves, he said you never have an "s" after an "f" to make it plural, eg: knife-knives, wolf-wolves, roof-rooves, hoof-hooves.

That surely can't be totally right..I'm sure we've all played cricket and the toss was either roofs or flats!
 
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mantis said:
Yeah I know it's knife, but it still has the f , chef is an exception, like a lot of rules in english, i before e except after c, there are exceptions there as well, that's why the english language is so hard to learn.
i have to admit i thought of about 20 more examples before i pointed out the flaw in your sons argument ;)

**** as has been stated earlier... and what about chief? I really dont read enough.
 
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pazza said:
That surely can't be totally right..I'm sure we've all played cricket and the toss was either roofs or flats!
that's hills or flats.


never heard it called rooves or flats - although maybe that's the example of the "spoken" english exception
 
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dr nick said:
that's hills or flats.


never heard it called rooves or flats - although maybe that's the example of the "spoken" english exception

Or an upbringing where murdering the English language was just what we all ended up doing where I grew up.
 
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dr nick said:
i have to admit i thought of about 20 more examples before i pointed out the flaw in your sons argument ;)

**** as has been stated earlier... and what about chief? I really dont read enough.


As I said there are exceptions, but it definitely is rooves, my son is NEVER wrong, he's a genius. :D
 

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Re: Smoking to be banned in pubs and clubs

mantis said:
It was definitely rooves & hooves when I went to school, maybe it has been dropped to hoofs & roofs because of the tendency to phonetic spelling these days, I looked it up on the net though & rooves was listed.
Sorry Mantis, but you are wrong. I am a former English teacher and the plural of roof has always been roofs. Usually if a word ends in f you change the f to a v and an es, but there have always been two exceptions to that rule. Those are roof (roofs) and chief (chiefs). :)
 
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Sorry Bee, you are wrong, definitely rooves, by the way, my son was correcting his teachers spelling since he was 7, used to drive them nuts. :D
 
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some others i thought of whilst trying to find an exception
theif
calf
leaf
half
wharf
scarf
elf
dwarf


i'd hate to be learning english as a second language... explain to the kids what the plural of these are:

man
woman
child
mouse
louse
goose
foot
fish
sheep
tooth
ox
moose

agh!
 
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mantis said:
Sorry Bee, you are wrong, definitely rooves, by the way, my son was correcting his teachers spelling since he was 7, used to drive them nuts. :D
Mantis, I have news for you. Your son is not the genius you think he is. He is actually an idiot! ;)
 
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bee.... what do you call it when you do this to a word:

Australia -> Skip
England -> Pom
New Zealand -> Kiwi
America -> Yank
 

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