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Analysis Ross Lyon

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you negative nancy's, RTB has something up his sleeve in store for the GF...

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Freo Blood said:
It's not rubbish, all they gotta do is bring the ball to ground and let Walters, Croz and Mayne have a chance. Our structure is crap and playing one proper tall forward is the reason.
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Our structure clearly has problems, but Taberner IN would not have fixed it. Weller for de Boer won't either. 2016 or 17 maybe.
 
theGav56 said:
Our structure clearly has problems, but Taberner IN would not have fixed it. Weller for de Boer won't either. 2016 or 17 maybe.
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Well I think it is not working at the moment with only one KPF and it was working earlier in the year with Tabs in playing second KPF so why not?
 

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A snippet from Lyon's presser.

Do you think Ballantyne will play finals ?

I haven't thought about it to be honest.

Is he going OK in his rehab ?

Yeah, I think so. Nobody really tells me too much.:confused::eek:


That's one way to run a footy club, I suppose.
 
He was just as evasive on pr. sounds like he doesn't have an idea to turn it around imo. Kept blaming the skill errors. I thought that was the coaches job to sort that out, it's getting a bit late by now.
 
I think people need to take a chill pill - we are top of table, he is rolling dice and trying to make sure his a graders are ready for rd 1 of finals so for eagles games onwards he will cope some shit due team form - I'll bet you'll all be happy when we win QF, PF at home and then GF.... Just let him coach and stop trying to second guess...in Ross we trust!!!
 
gungho said:
Sorry but this is one of the stranger posts on here for a while. Are you really suggesting the plan when kicking inside 50 should be to head for the boundary?
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Not every time.But if our half backs are going to continually bomb(kick in hope)to a nest of key backs why not try and pull the kick towards the boundary line to help assisting in locking it in.
Mate,it's a mere suggestion.
 
Freofalcon said:
A snippet from Lyon's presser.

Do you think Ballantyne will play finals ?

I haven't thought about it to be honest.

Is he going OK in his rehab ?

Yeah, I think so. Nobody really tells me too much.:confused::eek:


That's one way to run a footy club, I suppose.
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All year he has been consistent in saying that he cares about who is available in the moment. just a couple of weeks ago he was asked about Dawson and basically said the same. if not available not overly interested. living in the moment is what great coaches do. not procrasinate about who might be available and what is confidence. he has stated earlier in his press conferences about the concept of confidence and its about actions. i cant believe we have this thread. no , actually i can believe. bring on the roast of ross lyon
 
tek87 said:
All year he has been consistent in saying that he cares about who is available in the moment. just a couple of weeks ago he was asked about Dawson and basically said the same. if not available not overly interested. living in the moment is what great coaches do. not procrasinate about who might be available and what is confidence. he has stated earlier in his press conferences about the concept of confidence and its about actions. i cant believe we have this thread. no , actually i can believe. bring on the roast of ross lyon
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I don't think it's unusual to find it a bit odd that the Head Coach has no idea on the current status of players on the injured list.
 
332docker said:
I think people need to take a chill pill - we are top of table, he is rolling dice and trying to make sure his a graders are ready for rd 1 of finals so for eagles games onwards he will cope some shit due team form - I'll bet you'll all be happy when we win QF, PF at home and then GF.... Just let him coach and stop trying to second guess...in Ross we trust!!!
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i admire your optimism. i am loving what ross lyon is doing with this squad, he is squeezing everything out of it. i did not expect top 4 this year and now i dont expect a premiership , maybe a grand final appearance. but currently we are not on form and talented as hawks, eagles, line ball with richmond and sydney have better offensive weapons. realistic expectations on this forum would not go astray but i guess footy can be a emotional blinker for some
 
Freofalcon said:
I don't think it's unusual to find it a bit odd that the Head Coach has no idea on the current status of players on the injured list.
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not on Monday nights as they dont train. been consistent on this all year. besides injuries are not exact science all the time. point is irrelevancy. focused on now. that is his mantra. not hard to comprehend
 

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Freofalcon said:
I don't think it's unusual to find it a bit odd that the Head Coach has no idea on the current status of players on the injured list.
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No idea or no inclination to tell?

I'd wager he knows but being the coy bugger he is cbf'd sharing
 
tek87 said:
not on Monday nights as they dont train. been consistent on this all year. besides injuries are not exact science all the time. point is irrelevancy. focused on now. that is his mantra. not hard to comprehend
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They are fairly straight forward questions. As a supporter, I wouldn't mind hearing my coach answer them knowledgeably and not with a shrug of the shoulders and a blank " I don't know "

Just my opinion.

No need to get your knickers in a twist.
 
Freofalcon said:
They are fairly straight forward questions. As a supporter, I wouldn't mind hearing my coach answer them knowledgeably and not with a shrug of the shoulders and a blank " I don't know "

Just my opinion.

No need to get your knickers in a twist.
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I can't think of any coach who is upfront when discussing injuries.Simpson said Cripps had a broken jaw which was not true.Better for the coach to find out from the medico's before making statements about injuries.
 
free at last said:
Not every time.But if our half backs are going to continually bomb(kick in hope)to a nest of key backs why not try and pull the kick towards the boundary line to help assisting in locking it in.
Mate,it's a mere suggestion.
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If we got the ball in a touch quicker we could revert to our strategy of having the talls draw defenders and kicking a wormburner into the space 30m out directly in front (to a forward or a midfielder arriving into space) as we were at the start of the season
 

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TheMcManusNose said:
The major changes Lyon has made to his game plan this year are fairly obvious. Less pressure on the ball carrier, a greater propensity to play on and move through the corridor. The problem with that attacking philosophy is that it requires a lot of skill. Despite the fact that we do have some extremely good players, we do not quite have the overall skill, pace and talent throughout the entire list that a team like the Hawks does. That makes the type of game we are trying to play fairly dangerous. When we hit targets it is wonderful, when we don't we're turning the ball over in extremely dangerous areas.

So I think there is merit to the argument that some of the blame can be absolved from Ross in this respect. Our recent records with 1st round draft picks speaks to that.
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But our talent has been good enough to support an early season run of form that has undeniably set up our season and provides us with a great opportunity to lock down a much sought after top 2 position this weekend. That same talent were on song early during the North game. They have demonstrated they can do it. They know they can do it. The players must individually take responsibility and eradicate sloppiness in their execution. I do not accept that they lack the necessary skill, pace and talent when they have indeed shown it.

Let's not overly complicate this by over analysing game plans and drafting strategies. Quite simply, the message has to be to take responsibility and make the handballs stick, kick the goals from 15 metres out, don't overstep when kicking in from a behind and rein in the ill discipline that results in 50 metre penalties. The coach refers to it as keeping composure.

Outside of that, the thing that is most concerning to me is why the spread stopped in the last quarter and how they outrun us and got their front running game going to kick 5 goals in quick succession. I hope Webber has the answers to what is going on there.
 
wild side said:
He was just as evasive on pr. sounds like he doesn't have an idea to turn it around imo. Kept blaming the skill errors. I thought that was the coaches job to sort that out, it's getting a bit late by now.
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The only way you eradicate skill errors is to drop players. Do you think they actually don't have skill sessions? The stuff we saw on the weekend no amount of coaching is going to fix, our turnovers must have cost 5 goals.
 
Freo Blood said:
Well I think it is not working at the moment with only one KPF and it was working earlier in the year with Tabs in playing second KPF so why not?
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When Taberner form tapered it wasn't working and he was dropped. But the main reason it was working is because Pavlich was partnering him as a genuine Key Forward. Pearce and Taberner can reduce the focus on Pavlich, but as the main targets they are deficient. They need time to develop.
 
salim malik said:
Pav was injured ,That is not a complicated concept .Who do you suggest to replace Pav and if you say Tabs you've got rocks in your head.
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WOW! Have you finally admitted that Taberner is shit?

This is an amazing day.
 
Silent Alarm said:
WOW! Have you finally admitted that Taberner is shit?

This is an amazing day.
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If you read a post correctly instead of being a smartarse all the time you might have noticed that in my opinion (and my opinion like everyone else's on here is not worth a pinch of dog crap) he deserved to be dropped from the 22 and his games at Peel have not been up to the mark.The word shit was never used and i would never use that term about a young kpp who has plenty of time to improve and hopefully become the forward we need.
 

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