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How good have Elliott and Moore been for us? I think back to the year Elliot missed and I think Moore only played a handful of games.:(

About time the footy gods left us alone!

Jamie Elliott is an enigma. He has averaged about 17 games in every season he has been at the club ( and is 13-0 this year.)

But on the flip side he has missed two complete seasons!

Darcy is looking durable. I just think he needed a bit of natural growth and gym work combined with some confidence to overcome the constant niggles of 2018.
 

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Well I vehemently disagree so lets move on.
We are far too brainwashed by the American belief that the ultimate success in everything is simply a matter of hard work and the desire for it.
Utter bullshite.

Never said that either. Everyone seems to be having a hard time understanding something simple.
 
Never said it should define him, read my post again.
I read your subsequent posts, and I still think your reasoning is stupid. You’re essentially saying he’s not allowed to be a realist.
 
I read your subsequent posts, and I still think your reasoning is stupid. You’re essentially saying he’s not allowed to be a realist.

Here you go, can't make it any clearer and if you can't comprehend that then it's on you.
I edited your reply in italics so everyone can understand where I'm coming from, even though I've already explained it more than once.

So a question for every Pie fan here.

Would you rather a coach that:

A/ Has a conviction he will achieve that flag(s), in his mind it is only a matter of when not if

or

B/ Which is the impression I got from his reply, and I'll paraphrase 'I'll work towards that but it won't define me (if I don't)'

There is nothing wrong with wanting coach A over coach B, and no I'm not potting Nathan
 
Here you go, can't make it any clearer and if you can't comprehend that then it's on you.
Lol I know exactly what you said. It was not the first, and not the last dumb thing you’ll post and then stubbornly defend, I’m sure.
 
Lol I know exactly what you said. It was not the first, and not the last dumb thing you’ll post and then stubbornly defend, I’m sure.

OK Apex, no need to pick fights with emotional posts like yours here.

It's clear you cannot comprehend what I'm saying or you've conceded that Nathan is not convinced he and the club can win it, one or the other.

So we'll leave it there.
 
OK Apex, no need to pick fights with emotional posts like yours here.

It's clear you cannot comprehend what I'm saying or you've conceded that Nathan is not convinced he and the club can win it, one or the other.

So we'll leave it there.
Conviction and realism are able to coexist. They’re not mutually exclusive. It’s actually funny that you’re saying I don’t understand what you’re trying to say when you don’t seem to understand it yourself.
 

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Conviction and realism are able to coexist. They’re not mutually exclusive. It’s actually funny that you’re saying I don’t understand what you’re trying to say when you don’t seem to understand it yourself.

Of course they are, I'm not disputing that, why is that so hard to understand? This is one of the most driven guys in the history of the game, so one would expect him to come out and say 'when' not 'if'.

I mention he may have an atom size of doubt and rather he wouldn't and everyone loses their sh1t! Sheesh!
 
Usually like to try and work out which coach gave what... but I'm at a loss here.

Bucks:
Moore - 5
Adams - 4
Pendles - 3
JT - 2
Crisp - 1

Teague:
Crisp - 5
Grundy - 4
Adams - 3
Walsh - 2
Moore - 1

That’s my guess. Moore & Crisp being interchangeable.
Adams, Pendles, JT & Walsh can’t be change at all.

Crisp & Moore can be swapped. Odd that one coach rated him 5 and the other rates him 1.
 
Bucks:
Moore - 5
Adams - 4
Pendles - 3
JT - 2
Crisp - 1

Teague:
Crisp - 5
Grundy - 4
Adams - 3
Walsh - 2
Moore - 1

That’s my guess. Moore & Crisp being interchangeable.
Adams, Pendles, JT & Walsh can’t be change at all.

Crisp & Moore can be swapped. Odd that one coach rated him 5 and the other rates him 1.

I agree for the most part. I don't know why but I always find coaches votes so intriguing. I guess it's because of what happens with players like a Pendlebury after the game he played on Sunday.

Bucks would know his job was to shut down Cripps who had 35 and 14 clearances or whatever in 2019. Teague on the other hand probably just thought Cripps was a little off (as he has been this year) and that Pendles wasn't up to his normal standard 🤪
 

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Carlton supporter so sorry to intrude - you guys are a class above us but watching the replay - in the 2nd Quarter did Bruce really shout:

"I'm loving Cox right now !! ".
Bahahah, that's a great catch. He's really out of it
 
Carn the Woods.

Always great to beat the arch-rivals and especially when it finishes of their season.

Hopefully will be the launch to our success.
 
Carlton supporter so sorry to intrude - you guys are a class above us but watching the replay - in the 2nd Quarter did Bruce really shout:

"I'm loving Cox right now !! ".
Absolutely - he really is past whatever mental capacity he once had.
An embarrassment in even the Australian idiot sports media.
 
Carlton supporter so sorry to intrude - you guys are a class above us but watching the replay - in the 2nd Quarter did Bruce really shout:

"I'm loving Cox right now !! ".
If he’s coming out as bi, he has my full support.
 

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