Game Day Round 22 Crows vs. WCE Just Get it Done!

[BRL121]

Have you heard something? I was under the impression he's still trying for a return this year.

No. Uneducated guess. It looked a serious injury, requiring surgery and a scary-sounding "bone-raising", I suppose to counter bone-compression. His injury-report status outlook is blowing out. I can't see him getting AFL-fit for some time, and I don't want to introduce him for finals in a risky state.

All in all, I don't think we need this distraction for finals.

 

[Peter Doherty]

No. Uneducated guess. It looked a serious injury, requiring surgery and a scary-sounding "bone-raising", I suppose to counter bone-compression. His injury-report status outlook is blowing out. I can't see him getting AFL-fit for some time, and I don't want to introduce him for finals in a risky state.

All in all, I don't think we need this distraction for finals.

See my post in the Rachele thread.

 

[NSolis]

Not really. 80 points is absolutely the par score given its 1st versus one win 18th

Melbourne beat them by that much last week. Melbourne! Who historically struggle kicking goals.

We beat them earlier in the year by 66 and that was with Waterman, Reid and Allen all playing

That was also their second biggest loss of the season. West Coast have only lost by more than 10 goals twice in the last 15 weeks, and zero times at home. They got within 29 of Collingwood, 43 of Geelong and 49 of Freo. They are bad but they aren't West Coast 2023 bad, despite only getting one win. There's no way an 80 point win away from home is par - winning by 50ish would be one of the more comprehensive wins against West Coast recently and would be better than all those other contenders did.

 

[footy4ever]

But this board wanted him out?

Not all, but the hate was ridiculous.

 

[Scorpus]

That was also their second biggest loss of the season. West Coast have only lost by more than 10 goals twice in the last 15 weeks, and zero times at home. They got within 29 of Collingwood, 43 of Geelong and 49 of Freo. They are bad but they aren't West Coast 2023 bad, despite only getting one win. There's no way an 80 point win away from home is par - winning by 50ish would be one of the more comprehensive wins against West Coast recently and would be better than all those other contenders did.

That's when they had better players in their side. They have no midfield without Reid, their defense is weakened and they have no forward line.

Our forward line is going up against Ginbey, Brock and Bazzo. We should be piling goals on.

There is no reason whatsoever we should perform worse against them now than earlier this year given the trajectory of each side and recent teams/form

 

[spenze]

What if Burgess kicks 10, does Tex drop back to the SANFL?

Be a bad time to lose your spot this close to the finals

 

[dogs105]

What if Burgess kicks 10, does Tex drop back to the SANFL?

Be a bad time to lose your spot this close to the finals

Would be very timely for him. If he kicks ten he might get another contract as a back up forward.

 

[CrowBloke]

Crows by 26

... goals?

 

[CrowBloke]

If we don't win, even if we'll still be top, we can forget about any talks of the flag.

... because ...?

 

[Cromulant]

... because ...?

Probably because we'd have lost to one of the worst sides in AFL history.......s C grade

 

[ams4crows]

Fogarty needs 6 goals to make 200 Career goals

 

[ams4crows]

But this board wanted him out?

I was one of a lone few who pre season said Milera when fit is best 22. People thought I was insane.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

... because ...?

Because if we lose to one of the worst established teams since Fitzroy (along with Melbourne 2013), then we're not serious flag contenders.

Not that it matters, because this should be a comfortable win even if we don't get out of first gear.

 

[NSolis]

Interestingly if West Coast can't beat us, Bulldogs or Sydney I think they will become the first ever team to lose 22 games in a season. There have been four teams who have finished with a 1-21 record, most recently GWS in their second season, and quite a lot of winless seasons of 17 or 18 games, but I don't think there was ever a 0-22 before we went to the 23 game season.

 

[ssj3Pretz]

All in all, I don't think we need this distraction for finals.

The underrating of Rachele is insane.

 

[Shuestar13]

Weather cleared right up now, no further rain and the ground should dry out a bit before bouncedown.

Will still be slippery in some areas and quite soft/muddy along the interchange bench side.

May be one of our “effort” halves , percentage less of a need now, but you should still clear away in the end for a comfortable win. Bank the points, manage a few in game and get home!

 

[CrowBloke]

Probably because we'd have lost to one of the worst sides in AFL history.......s C grade

My bad, apologies. I misread your post; didn't see the "don't".

Oldness .

 

[CrowBloke]

Because if we lose to one of the worst established teams since Fitzroy (along with Melbourne 2013), then we're not serious flag contenders.

Not that it matters, because this should be a comfortable win even if we don't get out of first gear.

see above

 

[NSolis]

That's when they had better players in their side. They have no midfield without Reid, their defense is weakened and they have no forward line.

Our forward line is going up against Ginbey, Brock and Bazzo. We should be piling goals on.

There is no reason whatsoever we should perform worse against them now than earlier this year given the trajectory of each side and recent teams/form

That's fair and I am certainly not ruling out a huge win, I just don't see how 80 point wins on the road can be par. It's a relatively rare occurrence. We've only won by more than 80 points four times under Nicks, and never lost by that much, even while finishing bottom 4 multiple times. We've beaten West Coast on the road by 80+ points once - 86 points in 2013. I don't think our biggest ever win against a club could be considered a par result.

 

[Alwaysacrow]

OMG I hate these late Sunday games.

 

[CrowBloke]

Seems like a good place to leave this

+

People forgot how good he was and what he brings to the team.

My hand is up .

I wanted Milera dropped after 3 or 4 rounds. I said he'd been injured too often and was being played on reputation, not output.
You and others were right --- gotta play talent --- and I was OH so wrong!
(while I'm at it, I got the direction of this side OH-so-wrong as well; it was unthinkable to me early this year that we'd be 6 wins away from a Flag, maybe 5)

 

[BRL121]

The underrating of Rachele is insane.

?

 

[Scorpus]

That's fair and I am certainly not ruling out a huge win, I just don't see how 80 point wins on the road can be par. It's a relatively rare occurrence. We've only won by more than 80 points four times under Nicks, and never lost by that much, even while finishing bottom 4 multiple times. We've beaten West Coast on the road by 80+ points once - 86 points in 2013. I don't think our biggest ever win against a club could be considered a par result.

I think this is the largest disparity in team talent we've faced since we faced first season GWS

 

[SugarShane]

But this board wanted him out?

My memory is that most wanted him to find form in the SANFL after such a long period out. Which was fair, his first month or so was pretty poor.

 

[CrowBloke]

OMG I hate these late Sunday games.

Me, waiting for the first bounce ...