Round 22 vs Dees - Tivva's Farewell - merged thread

[Foleys Footy]

cheers tiv, all the best mate

 

[cormick]

Yeah, my thread stuck
Potato eyes

 

[jockey-sized midfielder]

nooooo
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484533

 

[T4P]

Re: Round 22 vs Dees - Tivva's Farewell

My Predicted Team
B: Chris Newman, Will Thursfield, Kelvin Moore
HB: Jay Schulz, Luke McGuane, Jordan McMahon
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Matt White, Joel Bowden, Richard Tambling
F: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C (from): Greg Tivendale, Mitch Morton, Adam Pattison, Daniel Jackson/Connors
Emerg: Dean Polo, Alex Rance, Connors/Jackson
In: Tivendale, Pattison
Out: Tristan Cartledge, Daniel Connors/Jackson but probably Connors...

 

[_RT_]

Re: Round 22 vs Dees - Tivva's Farewell

My Predicted Team
B: Chris Newman, Will Thursfield, Kelvin Moore
HB: Jay Schulz, Luke McGuane, Jordan McMahon
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Matt White, Joel Bowden, Richard Tambling
F: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C (from): Greg Tivendale, Mitch Morton, Adam Pattison, Daniel Jackson/Connors
Emerg: Dean Polo, Alex Rance, Connors/Jackson
In: Tivendale, Pattison
Out: Tristan Cartledge, Daniel Connors/Jackson but probably Connors...

Reckon it might end up Foley, Cartledge & Connors out with Tivendale, Pattison and Rance coming in.

 

[Dave Stevens]

Quick question for those on either side of the discussion...

Would we be bringing Tivers back for a farewell game if this game was against, say...Sydney for a spot in the eight?

I know this ain't the situation us Tigers are in, but are we only playing him 'cause the result doesn't matter?

 

[sante]

Re: Tivendale Gone...It's Official!

Good luck Tivva. Will he get picked up by another club? I hope so, he deserves it.

 

[PHX]

Yeah, my thread stuck
Potato eyes

Rofl. Just lucky I guess.

Good to see Potato Eyes lives on at the top of the thread though.

 

[dothebowdenshuffle]

Re: Round 22 vs Dees - Tivva's Farewell

Reckon it might end up Foley, Cartledge & Connors out with Tivendale, Pattison and Rance coming in.

Edwards has played 6 games this season with Coburg. Magic number to qualify for finals is 7, so he might go around there. Jackson has done enough to stay in. Some reported Foley has been under an injury cloud. Can we do without speed of both Edwards and Foley? Some consideration may be given to Coburg gathering momentum for their Finals charge, which is why I believe Cartledge went back for this week. In summary, In: Tiv, Pattison, Rance. Out: Cartledge, Edwards, Foley

 

[HobarTiger]

Re: Round 22 vs Dees - Tivva's Farewell

I too have been a Tiger supporter a day or two, long enough to have seen 5 premierships albeit from Tassie . Its not so much sentimental but more what clubs are made of. Once you begin to ignore the celebration of milestones and peoples efforts blokes simply lose the will to give for the jumper. Once we have an unlimited salary cap and the funds to match thats great, we will just reward good performance in dollars and outbid for all our talent a la the EPL. But, while there isnt one players will need to be recognised in other ways. Weird as it may seem some actually enjoy that and aspire to it.

I want the young guys like Cotchin, Conners, JR, Foley, Edwards to develop a culture of playing for the jumper and giving that extra bit when its all on the line, regardless of whether or not they arer the most skilled or the best in the league but more because of what it means to them Then hopefully they will be able to come to premiership reunions because of the great memories, not because we paid for their flights and accommodation.

We need to be calculating and critical yes I agree but when we have an opportunity to build a concept of "team" I think we shoudl grasp that with both hands. At the end of the day it will be what seperates winners from losers.

Two great posts from you on Club Culture TT. If the club is to emerge from our now 28yr hibernation club culture is going to be an important ingredient in that success. Yes, we have to recognise loyal servants of the club, even at the expense of the kids, especially in a game that would be dead meaningless if not for Tivva's farewell. I hope team get behind Tivva and give him a good send off with a thumping of Melb.

A strong win on Sunday would prove to me that a strong tiger heart still beats at punt road. The team has faulered at other milestones this season, hope they are up for this one.

 

[Crumden]

Can't say I'm a big fan of the farewell game but I don't begrudge Tivva getting a send off. He's been playing well enough at Coburg all season to be selected so its not as if he's being gifted a game. When Tivva's kicking is 'on' like it was for a few games in the second half of 2007 he is great to watch. Unfortunately for him he blew his chance in the Adelaide game when it was well and truely 'off'. If he'd nailed that game, he may well have gone close to 200 games by the end of this year, although I think the final result for him at seasons end would have been the same.

 

[MAYURI]

why do we always settle for mediocrity?!?! how many other clubs have farewell games for mediocre players?
It's a nice and respected gesture from our club to give me a farewell game, but really he shouldn't have played for than 100 games for us when it was obvious he would never be able to develop this game any further. Personally, I thought he had the talent to become one of the better players in the afl, but he never really took his game up a notch.

Anyway, congrads tivers.

 

[Crumden]

why do we always settle for mediocrity?!?! how many other clubs have farewell games for mediocre players?
It's a nice and respected gesture from our club to give me a farewell game, but really he shouldn't have played for than 100 games for us when it was obvious he would never be able to develop this game any further. Personally, I thought he had the talent to become one of the better players in the afl, but he never really took his game up a notch.

Anyway, congrads tivers.

He had the talent to become one of the better players in the AFL but it was obvious he wouldn't be able to develop his game.

 

[Dave Stevens]

I love the spirit displayed here, but c'mon, enough misplaced chest beating. If winning this game got us into the eight, there's no way he'd get a run. If we thought he was part of the best 22, he'd have played long before now.

Would love to go back to the posts following the Adelaide game at the MCG. Bet there was almost ZERO defence for the bloke, and probably most of the venom is from the same lot who now want to iron '32' onto the back of the jumper to say farewell.

See it for what it is. A 'nice' sentimental gesture to an OK player in a dead game. Nothing more.

I remember seeing banners displaying "R U T H L E S S T I G E R S" stretched wide across the second level of the old Southern Stand back in the day...seems a lifetime ago.

All this talk about culture, a culture of success is only one that resonates.

A farewell game for Tivendale won't inspire the kids to stay loyal (as an earlier post suggested) anywhere near what a Premiership would.

 

[scarecrow2k1]

I love the spirit displayed here, but c'mon, enough misplaced chest beating. If winning this game got us into the eight, there's no way he'd get a run. If we thought he was part of the best 22, he'd have played long before now.

Would love to go back to the posts following the Adelaide game at the MCG. Bet there was almost ZERO defence for the bloke, and probably most of the venom is from the same lot who now want to iron '32' onto the back of the jumper to say farewell.

See it for what it is. A 'nice' sentimental gesture to an OK player in a dead game. Nothing more.

I remember seeing banners displaying "R U T H L E S S T I G E R S" stretched wide across the second level of the old Southern Stand back in the day...seems a lifetime ago.

All this talk about culture, a culture of success is only one that resonates.

A farewell game for Tivendale won't inspire the kids to stay loyal (as an earlier post suggested) anywhere near what a Premiership would.

I seriously doubt anyone said that the inspiration that Tivendale would provide is anywhere close to a premiership, but it certainly might provide some inspiration, whether in loyalty or spurring the club onto a win.

Sure, Tivendale wouldn't be getting a game if we could still make the 8. But it's not as if its an outrageously bad call up. He has been playing fantastically in the VFL and Melbourne are virtually VFL strength.

And what have we got to lose? We can't make the 8 and should thump Melbourne, and even if we don't its not going to be Tivendale as the reason why we lose

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

I have been a huge critic of Tivendales football career and are a huge critic of making a big deal of so many players last games, seems everyone now gets a gig and think it does take some polish off the absolute champions, ie Harvey, Neitz etc.
However, as some have pointed out Greg should be held in the highest regard for going back and applying himself well, by all reports, amongst our developing players in the VFL