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Round 4: Geelong vs Melbourne

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My match preview, submitted this afternoon for deadline and just published on the SportsAustralia.com website-- and hence, my thoughts on the match (which, in all honesty, aren't too different from what I've been saying on here all week, either, so the report should come as no surprise)...

Enjoy!

http://sportsaustralia.com/articles/apr03/artid110.html

Thompson's squad choices run risk of Cats being overrun, again
Friday April 18, 2003
Written by William Olson
Geelong Correspondent


Geelong's on-field efforts seem to be getting better with each and every passing week, but the quest for what has so far been an elusive first win of the season has been hampered by any among a variety of shortcomings in coach Mark Thompson's gameplan, as Thompson attempts to rectify the situation entering the Round 4 showdown against Melbourne at Skilled Stadium in Geelong on Saturday.

The marked improvements in the Cats' efforts between their Round 2 defeat to North Melbourne and their loss last weekend against Collingwood were clear to see through the first three quarters of the game against the Magpies at the MCG-- a willingness to work together, marginally better delivery of the ball into the forward lines, and an overall better execution of the fundamental points of the game.

Note that those improvements were viewed "through the first three quarters", as it says in the above paragraph. Where they blew it against Collingwood-- in general, although there were certain players who didn't do their jobs, and more on that in a minute-- was that there wasn't really anyone available to match up against the Magpies' tall options in Anthony Rocca and Chris Tarrant, among others. And for whatever they lacked in height, the physical intensity of that certain pack of defenders ranging from Matthew Scarlett, Ben Graham, Brent Grgic and Darren Milburn did not factor its way into picking up the slack.

Therefore, small leads of two, five and seven points through each of the first three quarters were lost as Collingwood, doing what all championship-calibre teams should be capable of doing against teams they have an advantage over, turned up their game when it mattered most.

So what does this observation-- admittedly, Monday Morning Quarterbacking at its worst, done as many as five or six days after such a bitter defeat-- have to do with this weekend's game against Melbourne?

Quite frankly, with the squad which Thompson named on Thursday evening, the Cats run the risk of being overdone by an opposition's tall forward-line options once again.

Thompson has drafted in four changes to the side which lost against Collingwood-- in are James Bartel, James Rahilly, Will Slade and David Clarke, with Charlie Gardiner, Steve Johnson, David Spriggs and Mitchell White making way-- but while the Cats imaptiently await the return of tall defender Tom Harley from a niggling heel bruise that has caused him to miss each of the first three games of the season and keeps him out for the Melbourne clash, there is nothing in their defence that addresses any of the probable matchups with the Demons' apparent edge in height.

In the meantime, there are a whole host of questions that need to be addressed.

Will the back line of Grgic, Scarlett and Sanderson, with possible help from Graham and Milburn, be able to contend with James McDonald, David Nietz and Russell Robertson? And underneath, will David Johnson be an adequate shadow against goalsneak Adam Yze?

The matchup against Nietz, last year's Coleman Medal winner as the AFL's top goal-kicker, is most concerning for Cats supporters. Nietz, at 193 centimetres, towers over any and all of Geelong's defenders, so it will be up to the likes of Graham and Scarlett in the centre of the defence to try once again and make up for the matchup in terms of an approach of physical intensity instead of one of pure height.

And then there's the matter of Ben Graham. When Thompson took the captaincy away from him in favour of Steven King's leadership abilities, the move was done in the hopes that Graham would be able to regain what was once a steady form without having the burden of leadership hounding his on-field efforts. Yet while Graham did have moments of good play in the first half against Collingwood, there were at least two incidents in the third quarter which prompted the Magpies to have the impetus to win the match in the final term, where they outscored Geelong eight goals to nil.

In fairness, Graham was taken off towards the end of the third term with a leg strain, and it was Thompson's decision to bring him back on the ground in the final quarter in an effort to heal the team's overall bleeding. Whether that was a bad coaching move could be debated, but the bigger picture is that Graham's present form doesn't do much to inspire his teammates, which is a particularly scathing critique considering the relative inexperience the Cats possess, with as many as eleven players having played fewer than 50 games of AFL footy.

Perhaps if Graham fails to raise his game against the Demons, Thompson should seriously entertain the option to send his former captain down to the reserves for at least a fortnight, where Graham can work on getting his form and confidence back with Geelong's high-flying VFL side.

So what will it take to beat Melbourne, a team which hasn't beaten Geelong around the shores of Corio Bay since 1988? King, in a show of leadership-by-example, spoke out midweek about needing some help in the ruck, despite his performance of 40-plus hitouts against Collingwood being typical of his usual dominance at the position so far this season.

King's motivation is for himself to be able to go forward as another tall option in attack.

"For the team's benefit, it is better sometimes to go forward and have a spell to freshen up and have more influence when I do go back there," King told the club's official gfc.com.au website earlier in the week.

"I'd like to spend time up forward as well and try to provide an option to kick some goals as well. At the end of the day it is whatever the match committee decides. I am just happy to do my part," added King.

However, at the end of the day, King will have to go at it alone in the ruck once again, as Thompson opted for no other tall players-- such as Paul Chambers, Peter Street, Henry Playfair or young gun Matthew McCarthy-- to be available for selection in those players' status in the Cats' reserves.

But Thompson did make some interesting choices in his projected starting lineup, in the hopes of gaining a tactical edge before the opening centre bounce.

Cameron Ling moves from the centre of the ground to a ruck rover position, backing up King and Joel Corey in that endeavor, Clarke goes alongside Gary Ablett Jr. and Kent Kingsley at full forward in the hopes that he can utilise his speed and quickness to his advantage against Melbourne defenders Nathan D. Brown and Luke Williams, as will be the case for Bartel coming off the interchange bench, and Cameron Mooney being dropped back to centre half-forward from a usual full-forward position.

But once again, the matchup of Kingsley against former Cat Clint Bizzell and Ryan Ferguson in the middle of the Demons' defence will be a key - as long as the likes of Graham and Rahilly, Peter Riccardi and an in-form Ben Chapman can deliver the ball in from the flanks to those in the forward lines.

So instead of matching Melbourne strength for strength in the height matchups in the forward battles, Thompson has apparently decided to opt for gaining an advantage per his team's speed, quickness and versatility.

If and when Geelong emerge victorious against Melbourne, such moves could make Thompson look like a genius. But if the Cats meet with another defeat, an 0-4 record could hit out at their overall confidence, and it might mean it could be a while before they gain that elusive first win of the season.
 
Originally posted by you_idiot

And underneath, will David Johnson be an adequate shadow against goalsneak Adam Yze?[/i]

Quite a good read mate, but there are a few inaccuracies across the article.

Adem Yze is as pure a midfielder as you will find, very rarely has he played a "goalsneak role".


Originally posted by you_idiot


Nietz, at 193 centimetres, towers over any and all of Geelong's defenders

Ben Graham is 196cm.


Originally posted by you_idiot



Cameron Mooney being dropped back to centre half-forward from a usual full-forward position.

Gumby has been our CHF for 2+ years.


Originally posted by you_idiot



an in-form Ben Chapman

Paul Chapman
 
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Quite a good read mate, but there are a few inaccuracies across the article.

Fair enough, P&P, and good pickups on your part. Well denoted by me... you can call them inaccuracies, I'll refer to them as niggling errors. :D

Still, I have some rebuttals in kind, in defence of what I've written...

Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Adem Yze is as pure a midfielder as you will find, very rarely has he played a "goalsneak role".

Adem (and not "Adam", as I put in my original copy :( ) Yze, still, is someone I fear might sneak in behind the full-forwards and score some goals.

You might want to check the squads I posted last night, he is being listed as a half-forward, and not that as a midfielder. If that is indeed the case, gotta credit Neale Daniher for looking to exploit something in the Geelong defence.

Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Ben Graham is 196cm.

Would never have guessed it, with the poor form that he's possessed lately. He's playing much smaller than that.

I hope he matches up well against Nietz, but I'm not holding my breath.

Point being, he shouldn't be included, IMO. If Nietz plays against him in the same manner that Rocca did, it might as well be game over.

Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Gumby has been our CHF for 2+ years.

Check... got me there. I'm just used to seeing him lining up at other forward positions, and not just at CHF. But that is his best position.

Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Paul Chapman

D'oh! Got me there... and the underlining is mine, by the way. ;) In any event, Chapman has been one of Geelong's better players so far in the young season.

Overall, thanks for the comments. I do acknowledge and value any and all comments and critiques on my articles.

But the general point I was making in the piece has to do with Mark Thompson and his squad choices of late, and I think that's the bigger picture here.

Thompson has done a fine job of developing the young talent on this team, no doubt about it, but his tactical choices (as well as making decisions about who to include into the squad) in games so far this season have left a lot to be desired.

So therefore, the question bears asking: If the Cats lose to Melbourne, has Mark Thompson lost the plot with this team, or has he already cooked our goose?
 

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Originally posted by you_idiot
Adem (and not "Adam", as I put in my original copy :( ) Yze, still, is someone I fear might sneak in behind the full-forwards and score some goals.

You might want to check the squads I posted last night, he is being listed as a half-forward, and not that as a midfielder. If that is indeed the case, gotta credit Neale Daniher for looking to exploit something in the Geelong defence.
On this, the reason Adem is playing forward is because he is carrying a shoulder injury, which he has had all year. He is capable in the forward line because he is a very good mark, and as I'm sure your all aware an excellent kick. Won't be at his devastating best, but could kick a few all the same.
 
Originally posted by Deestroy
On this, the reason Adem is playing forward is because he is carrying a shoulder injury, which he has had all year. He is capable in the forward line because he is a very good mark, and as I'm sure your all aware an excellent kick. Won't be at his devastating best, but could kick a few all the same.

Aside from Nietz, Yze would be the one player I would fear most, from the opposition.

Geelong had best get a body on him, as well as on Nietz and Robertson. Like white on rice, really.

If the Cats can shut down Yze and contain Nietz (I'm already factoring in my doubt of Graham's ability to close him down completely), Geelong's chances of winning are greatly improved.
 
Looking forward to a good game tomorrow! I will be there in the outer this year (well, the weather is looking nice after all P&P! ;) ) so hopefully the game is a beauty.

I hate to say it, but the Cats are a good chance this weekend. I know what we are capable of and we will get enough of the ball, it's a case of how we deliver it. If we are too Neitz conscious, then we are screwed to be honest. I think we are a better side, and you guys might agree, but I don't think that will be the factor here. You guys are at home, 0-3 down and looking for a big win. There is no better chance than against the Dees at Skilled.

Look for Ben Graham to bounce back (as he did against us last year!) and King to really take it up to White and Jolly. Overall, shapes up to be a good game, and I'll be there to cheer the red and blue on! :)
 
Originally posted by you_idiot
Aside from Nietz, Yze would be the one player I would fear most, from the opposition.

Geelong had best get a body on him, as well as on Nietz and Robertson. Like white on rice, really.

If the Cats can shut down Yze and contain Nietz (I'm already factoring in my doubt of Graham's ability to close him down completely), Geelong's chances of winning are greatly improved.
I think Geelong would be better off trying to contain Vardy than Yze, Yze might get 20 possies and kick 2-3 goals, but Vardy could have 9 possies for 8 goals.
 
Originally posted by CowboyFromHell
I will be there in the outer this year (well, the weather is looking nice after all P&P! ;) ) so hopefully the game is a beauty.

HAHA

Originally posted by CowboyFromHell

King to really take it up to White and Jolly.

I've no doubt that King will dominate the ruck, as per usual, however our problems will come when Jeff White goes forward.

In that case, either White or Nietz will be unstoppable, which will be enough to give Melbourne the win.
 
Inconsiderate people at Southern Cross.

First they don't show the football and then they put the races on when my last dollars went on a carton of beer :mad:
 
Originally posted by JUBJUB
He might have a few weeks holiday to recover.

I assume you are talking about the Slade incident?

If so, i heard Bomber on the way home saying that he thinks Will initiated the incident. Also said that he'd be having a few words to Will during the week.
 

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Originally posted by JUBJUB
Are you still glad Grgic was kept in the side ? :D
He was very good today,but his last qtr was excellent.

I bet some still expect him to be dropped for next week. :rolleyes:
 
I listened to the game on ABC radio with Drew Morphett and Danny Southern commentating so I don't know how accurate this will be.

It seemed we still stuff around with the ball too much, kick the damn thing. Our defense was good with Scarlett killing the overrated one and Rooke cleaning up at ground level. Graham was quite but did some good things when required.

The King-White duel was an interesting one. King was better at the hitouts but during the middle stages of the game White was dominating around the ground. Sounds like King won at the end of the day. Good to see Chambers get a run.

Enright and Ling had great games with Chapman, Corey, Ablett and Kelly all good in patches. Didn't hear a lot of Bartel, how much game time did he get?

Struggled getting across the half-forward line again. Maybe Milburn or Grgic (stood up when the game was still to be won) can stay as a permanent HFF. Kingsley was average with cheap goals at the end making his game look a hell of a lot better.

Injury clouds over Mooney, Slade and the radio said Ablett went off with a shoulder problem.
 
Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
I listened to the game on ABC radio with Drew Morphett and Danny Southern commentating so I don't know how accurate this will be.

It seemed we still stuff around with the ball too much, kick the damn thing. Our defense was good with Scarlett killing the overrated one and Rooke cleaning up at ground level. Graham was quite but did some good things when required.

The King-White duel was an interesting one. King was better at the hitouts but during the middle stages of the game White was dominating around the ground. Sounds like King won at the end of the day. Good to see Chambers get a run.

Enright and Ling had great games with Chapman, Corey, Ablett and Kelly all good in patches. Didn't hear a lot of Bartel, how much game time did he get?

Struggled getting across the half-forward line again. Maybe Milburn or Grgic (stood up when the game was still to be won) can stay as a permanent HFF. Kingsley was average with cheap goals at the end making his game look a hell of a lot better.

Injury clouds over Mooney, Slade and the radio said Ablett went off with a shoulder problem.
He did get beaten, but Neitz isn't overrated.
 
Originally posted by JUBJUB
Are you still glad Grgic was kept in the side ? :D
He was very good today,but his last qtr was excellent.
Grgic was in the top group of players today. He played really well against his old club. After a slow start to the season, he has really gotten better, and I must say I have a different view on him after his display today. :)
 
Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
Didn't hear a lot of Bartel, how much game time did he get?

He got about 2-3 quarters of action. He gave us the much needed in and under type that we hoped Spriggs would be.


Originally posted by Unwritten_Law

Injury clouds over Mooney, Slade and the radio said Ablett went off with a shoulder problem.

Slade is fine. Ablett should be right, was only a precaution. Gumby will struggle to play though (not a bad thing imho) despite Bomber saying he'll be right.
 
Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
Maybe Milburn or Grgic (stood up when the game was still to be won) can stay as a permanent HFF.

Gerge is more then capable, but Dash was only a Claytons half forward flanker today. He was there simply to negate Clint "I want number 5" Bizzell's influence.
 

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Originally posted by Arma
He did get beaten, but Neitz isn't overrated.

I wouldn't say he's overrated, but he does have an awful lot of poor games for a superstar of the competition.
 
I wouldn't say he's overrated, but he does have an awful lot of poor games for a superstar of the competition

I thought Scarlett was just far too good after qtr time. He hasn't played particularly well the last 3 weeks, so it was good to see the 'Scarlett of old' back :)
 
Finally, we are on the board for season 2003!! :)

I thought we played really well today, especially after half time where we started to get on top around the ground and choke the Melbourne midfield of quality possession.

We still made some skill errors but that should improve with confidence and more wins on the board. It's amazing what a difference playing 2 ruckman makes... King and Chambers did ok against White and Jolley and gave us plenty of run for the entire 4 quarters.

Great win Cats, lets get our season back on track next week and beat the Saints.
 

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