Autopsy Round 8 vs Melbourne Demons

[SwansProudly]

 

[Ticky009]

Grundy already been here for ~3 seasons!

Time flies.

 

[rustycrate]

Grundy needs a rest will be cranky if he plays next week

Resting Grundy when we are playing against Xerri. No thanks.

 

[giantsully]

I must have watched a different game to some. I guess.

Personally I thought the defence was pretty damn good. Including Bice.
The Dees are a bloody good CB team that can really exploit the 666.
Umpires didn't bother me at all.

The swans interchanges were wack. Really messed with some key positional moves.

Mills should always play back. He's just a general.

Rosas is an elite field kick.

Rampe was impressive again. His fist has more Curry than Kolkata.

Logan's best game this season. His tank is legit.

Charlie looked well held. Mind you. This benefits the rest of the forward group.

Grundy looked stuffed in Q4. I reckon that resulted in the dees getting a roll on.

Thank god someone else watched the same game I did. I'm not even sure what decisions people are getting angry about, umps were fine.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

That’s still a year and a half on Collingwood. That’s a huge gap. So many of our best players are 27 or under. We’re not in a position where we need to worry about 2-3 big retirements gutting our list. I’d be interested to see the age profile of the current top 6 teams.

While it’s nice being one of the youngest teams like the 2022 grand final team, we are now in the prime bracket to challenge for multiple flags and have a lot more experience. Maybe we can get a couple back to make up for the nasty grand final losses.

Round 8

Fremantle 25yrs 10 months
Ave Games 98.8
Under 50 games - 5

Hawthorn 26yrs 5 months
Ave Games 120.9
Under 50 games - 1

Brisbane 26yrs 11 months
Ave Games 133.2
Under 50 games - 4

Gold Coast 25yrs 1 month
Ave Games 95.1
Under 50 games - 8

Geelong 27yrs 2 months
Ave Games 126.3
Under 50 games - 4

 

[caesar88]

Thank god someone else watched the same game I did. I'm not even sure what decisions people are getting angry about, umps were fine.

Can we start with the insufficient intent one against Lloyd?

What kind of a baloney call was that?

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Resting Grundy when we are playing against Xerri. No thanks.

Rusty! we have to rest the big guy he was labouring in the 4th.

If we cant beat North without him then its on us

 

[Kbroome]

All i'll say is that it was job done, probably could have xyz and ended up with a bigger win, but that felt like a bogy game that we just had to find a way to win

 

[Nuggetz]

Interesting calls re Bice, if we remove him from our backline then it puts more pressure on Blakey to be our creative outlet with speed and kicking.

I want Cunningham in our side, probably for cootee. Potentionally if Bice is struggling defensively then we can swap Cunningham and Bice midgame.

 

[Donza]

Can we start with the insufficient intent one against Lloyd?

What kind of a baloney call was that?

Balanced by Heeney being in the first row

 

[Kbroome]

Rusty! we have to rest the big guy he was labouring in the 4th.

If we cant beat North without him then its on us

I think that was more due to Gawn being fresh as he had a legit ruck partner in Heath.

Ruck Contests:
Grundy 98
Gawn 65
Heath 43
McDonald 5
Amartey 5

Do we play someone like a Ladhams as just legit a bench ruck over Cootee next week just to help Grundy out as thats a mega game to get through

 

[rustycrate]

Rusty! we have to rest the big guy he was labouring in the 4th.

If we cant beat North without him then its on us

Xerri is playing at an elite level atm.
Bring in Ladhams to help him & rest him the week after.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Interesting calls re Bice, if we remove him from our backline then it puts more pressure on Blakey to be our creative outlet with speed and kicking.

I want Cunningham in our side, probably for cootee. Potentionally if Bice is struggling defensively then we can swap Cunningham and Bice midgame.

Nobody is getting dropped lets be honest its just fans on BF nitpicking

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

I think that was more due to Gawn being fresh as he had a legit ruck partner in Heath.

Ruck Contests:
Grundy 98
Gawn 65
Heath 43
McDonald 5
Amartey 5

Do we play someone like a Ladhams as just legit a bench ruck over Cootee next week just to help Grundy out as thats a mega game to get through

Have to do something there is no way he can get through the season with this workload every week and contribute at this level.

Gawn and Heath just worked him over and over

 

[RedOrWhite]

I'm open to resting a few especially Grundy but I'd hope we can hold out till the Richmond game for him at least.

I'm open to give Ladhams a game or 2 as a chop out.

 

[Nuggetz]

Have to do something there is no way he can get through the season with this workload every week and contribute at this level.

Gawn and Heath just worked him over and over

I'd guess a bit more will power and emotion with his 250th too. Defs either needs a rest or some more ruck support.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

This is where having your first round pick ruck perennially injured is just ugh would of been perfect opportunity to ease Green into the side.

Whats the point in keeping Ladlams/Mclean if your not going to use them as ruck relief.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

I'd guess a bit more will power and emotion with his 250th too. Defs either needs a rest or some more ruck support.

I wonder how much being his 250th contributed to him playing or if he would of been a late out? rumors were yesterday he was under a cloud.

 

[Donza]

Have to do something there is no way he can get through the season with this workload every week and contribute at this level.

Gawn and Heath just worked him over and over

Regardless.
His stats were superior to both of those.
Combined

 

[Superstar swan]

Still think we played below our best today and handled a very good team.

Great sign moving forward

 

[stevie26]

Had a family engagement today so couldn't watch the game live. Watched the replay (knowing the final score) and thought we were well in control after quarter time. Credit to Melbourne for their fight late in the game. Taking the immediate emotion out of it, I thought the umps were pretty good. A solid return for Melican imo and a better game for McDonald.

 

[caesar88]

I feel like we're looking for concerns with Grundy that aren't really there.

Cox said it quite plainly himself: They will go with what Grundy tells them each week.

So the prospect of resting him isn't really relevant until it becomes relevant.

 

[SSwans2011]

An average score of 118 and 100+ points in every match other than the Hawks game. The scary thing is I think there's still room for improvement – the delivery from our midfield hasn't been particularly great since Gulden got injured and the spot that has been occupied by Cootee and Cunningham is probably still up for grabs.

Other than today, our defence has been superb too. We have only conceded over 70 in 2 games. We really missed McCartin today, and other than Heeney, Grundy, and maybe Gulden (for the reasons above), I'm not sure we have a more important player.

 

[Kbroome]

I feel like we're looking for concerns with Grundy that aren't really there.

Cox said it quite plainly himself: They will go with what Grundy tells them each week.

So the prospect of resting him isn't really relevant until it becomes relevant.

I also think its a little too much to fully rest him, but reckon we could do something like what Melbourne is doing with Heath or Hawks are doing with Reeves and Meek and give Grundy a chop out for a week where he has 55% ruck time rather than 85%+

 

[caesar88]

The evolution of footy, as told by this stat:

 

[SSwans2011]

I feel like we're looking for concerns with Grundy that aren't really there.

Cox said it quite plainly himself: They will go with what Grundy tells them each week.

So the prospect of resting him isn't really relevant until it becomes relevant.

Agreed, and he's not going to have to go up against a Max Gawn that's spent slightly more than half of the game up forward (Heath had 21 CBAs compared to Gawn's 19 – plenty of which came in the last quarter) most weeks.