He is probably underweight for his height and has only played 40 games. He will end up a solid player.
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Autopsy Round 9 - St Kilda v Carlton *SPUD'S GAME*
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Looking at the GWS Cats game and Finn Callaghan slicing through traffic and thinking what if...
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I reckon that will get pulled in when we get a squad that's pushing up the ladder.
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This is the majority of the reason we lost. Probs around 80% of it.
It's hard to say why they forget to do it sometimes. Perhaps it's instruction, l dunno.
All l do know is when you see our guys aren't running ahead of the ball, you may as well switch off the TV or catch an early train.
Diehard Saint
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Is every club different?
Are the AFLPA involved in this?
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He’s an inside midfielder playing at least 90% CBAs. Far too often Cripps just ran it out the middle which put our defence and both lines under the pump.
It’s his bread and butter to compete there, and it’s been round after round, year after year now that he’s getting pantsed in there.
If he can’t compete and get it done, we need someone else in there who can get the job done at least be accountable to their opponent.
A lot of those stats are great, but don’t really hold up when his primary job is his clearance work which is where we are getting obliterated a lot of the time and arguably lost us the game.
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He’s a developing tall. Writing him off this soon is insane. He’s had very good games at both ends. With King in to take the best defender he’d be a totally different player.
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I know we’re all impatient but the writing off of Caminiti, Wilson, Travaglia and Hastie I’m reading on various threads here is just insane!
NFI sorry.
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I think that is what I am saying. There is nobody better. If there was they would be playing and if develops in the meantime, then great. I don’t get the hate for him.
Yep, people have latched onto the Healy comments in round 1, where he said he hasn't improved, which is ridiculous, for a guy who didn't have the red carpet laid out for him in juniors, he's done well......how many tall key forwards are any good within their first 3-4 years, hardly any. I'd say he's tracking well, he's a fierce competitor.
Think of some of the big names where their 'improvement' was never questioned in their first 5 years, Shache etc. They always had the comforting words of, oh big talls take time to develop.
Yep, he’d be in the mix of possibles to go out, especially given Wood plays the role he’s been playing the last couple of weeks.
Alternatively, he might be in the mix to replace one of the H’s in the middle.
Will be fascinating to see what changes we make this week, with all of Wood, Jones, Clark and Trav genuine chances of coming in.
Has anyone worked out why we're last in the whole comp for contested marks? Last few years we've been mid-table for that, hasn't exactly been a strength but not so much a weakness - now it stands out every match that we just can't take big marks.
Average difference from opponents:
+3: Carlton (+3.5)
+2: Adelaide (+2.9), Hawthorn (+2.4)
+1: Geelong (+1.9), Fremantle (+1.7), Gold Coast (+1.7), GWS (+1.6), Essendon (+1.0), Richmond (+1.0)
+0: Collingwood (+0.3), Brisbane (+0.0)
-0: Port Adelaide (-0.3), North Melbourne (-0.7)
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-2: Western Bulldogs (-2.3), Melbourne (-2.5), West Coast (-2.7)
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-4: Sydney (-4.1)
-5: St Kilda (-5.2)
Our opponents are taking 5 more contested marks per game than us.
I guess it might just be because we're missing Max?
Last year Max and Hammer averaged 1.5 each, Wilkie and Marshall averaged 1.0 each, with Coops and Battle just below that.
This year Coops is averaging 1.5, Hammer and Wilkie a lot less than 1, Max and Battle obviously haven't played - and Marshall's only taken 4 contested marks in 9 games.
I feel like if we could fix this it would help us a bit.
Average difference from opponents:
+3: Carlton (+3.5)
+2: Adelaide (+2.9), Hawthorn (+2.4)
+1: Geelong (+1.9), Fremantle (+1.7), Gold Coast (+1.7), GWS (+1.6), Essendon (+1.0), Richmond (+1.0)
+0: Collingwood (+0.3), Brisbane (+0.0)
-0: Port Adelaide (-0.3), North Melbourne (-0.7)
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-2: Western Bulldogs (-2.3), Melbourne (-2.5), West Coast (-2.7)
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-4: Sydney (-4.1)
-5: St Kilda (-5.2)
Our opponents are taking 5 more contested marks per game than us.
I guess it might just be because we're missing Max?
Last year Max and Hammer averaged 1.5 each, Wilkie and Marshall averaged 1.0 each, with Coops and Battle just below that.
This year Coops is averaging 1.5, Hammer and Wilkie a lot less than 1, Max and Battle obviously haven't played - and Marshall's only taken 4 contested marks in 9 games.
I feel like if we could fix this it would help us a bit.
Pou for instance was dropped after playing 3 quarters on the ball for 2 disposals. Wilson just had the 5th-most on the ground, the 2nd-most in his career and the 7th-most ranking points on the ground.
There are things to work on obviously, but that was still probably his best game of the year, so if they didn’t drop him off his worse ones, they ain’t dropping him off this one.
Joey on First Crack exposed numerous clips of Howard giving McKay a huge amount of space. Dougal almost looks injured the way he waddles but probably just lacking match fitness. Given a one year late last year, clearly he’s really a stop gap. Is it 6 years at $5 mil for Aleer?
Taller and more athletic than Scully and much more capable overhead and of playing as a genuine forward.
Scully at his best was damn good though. Eg was 2nd in their B&F in a prelim year in 2016 and 5th the following year.
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He is playing injured from last week.
Completely agree. Understand the current Wilson frustrations but still think he’s tracking towards or better then max holmes, who also IIRC struggled with disposal.
In addition Wilson has kicked 20 goals in 32 games. Not a bad haul.
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Two things can be true here. Caminiti is doing very well given the pathway he came through and his forward craft hasn't really improved from his first year.
Finally watched the game on TV after being there.
Some things, the criticism of Wilson is rediculously overstated. He fluffed maybe 2/3 kicks slightly but he also set us up multiple times with some very classy kicking. I think I found the contest he shirked maybe. Anyways defensively he worked super hard. The FK against him to McKay was only because found a way to get into the D50.
We desperately need another Contested marking option. Blame the AFL/VFL imo we have to bring in Viking when he’s finished his suspension. Espescially with Max out. As I’ve said many times. Stick him forward.
Overall watching back I think the game was 50/50 if not 60/40 to win. They took there chances we didn’t. Not just that. It was our turnovers, missed tackles and not punching the ball that cost us and caused their goals. Then the 4 behinds in a row in the third.
I still want some more power/speed on ball
Windy/Jones/Pou
Some things, the criticism of Wilson is rediculously overstated. He fluffed maybe 2/3 kicks slightly but he also set us up multiple times with some very classy kicking. I think I found the contest he shirked maybe. Anyways defensively he worked super hard. The FK against him to McKay was only because found a way to get into the D50.
We desperately need another Contested marking option. Blame the AFL/VFL imo we have to bring in Viking when he’s finished his suspension. Espescially with Max out. As I’ve said many times. Stick him forward.
Overall watching back I think the game was 50/50 if not 60/40 to win. They took there chances we didn’t. Not just that. It was our turnovers, missed tackles and not punching the ball that cost us and caused their goals. Then the 4 behinds in a row in the third.
I still want some more power/speed on ball
Windy/Jones/Pou
