Current Royal Commission into Lawyer X gangland convictions on tainted evidence & police corruption

shellyg

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Out with an envelope containing a water tight "non disclosure" clause.

If they attempt to retry him, then all this disgraceful corruption will get exposed, and he'll end up with a nolle.
Agree. They can't retry him after all this.

It's about negotiating the right deal now and how to effectively gag him.
 

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The remaining aspect is how VicPol & the state government stage manage the whole charade.

I mean, I predicted they would prostitute the "gangland war" to death, but there's only so much bullshit that an increasingly cynical Victorian public can swallow. The "we're just good blokes doing a difficult job" crap has well & truly run its race.

Agree. They can't retry him after all this.
No chance. I'm not claiming the bloke is an angel, but the fact is that he IS the victim of a disgraceful injustice.

It's about negotiating the right deal now and how to effectively gag him.
I doubt he would speak publicly anyway, and they'd know that. He deserves to be compensated and then I'd guess that he would retire to a quiet life.

Then the circus moves on to the next claimant.
 

shellyg

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The remaining aspect is how VicPol & the state government stage manage the whole charade.

I mean, I predicted they would prostitute the "gangland war" to death, but there's only so much bullshit that an increasingly cynical Victorian public can swallow. The "we're just good blokes doing a difficult job" crap has well & truly run its race.
How much stage management can they do? Why even try? It's as bad as it gets on so many levels and everybody knows it.

They'll have to start sending some of them to jail and seizing their assets to help pay for some of this. Their superannuation, the acreage at Wangaratta and Kilmore, the mistresses apartment at Docklands, holiday shacks, the Winnebago!
 

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shellyg

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I doubt he would speak publicly anyway, and they'd know that. He deserves to be compensated and then I'd guess that he would retire to a quiet life.
Safe in some respects there, agree to that also discretion was a key attribute and I can't see him speaking publicly either. He can still rattle them a bit though, I'm thinking he might get a decent payout. Not enough for a Ferrari and a spare but enough to get out and live comfortably.
 

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Are these diaries mentioned in paragraph 15 and 16 likely to be found in the same place as Overland’s. What is so special about Sandy that he cannot be named when so many others have been?
 

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Are these diaries mentioned in paragraph 15 and 16 likely to be found in the same place as Overland’s. What is so special about Sandy that he cannot be named when so many others have been?
Apparently nothing is special about him, I’m told if you were to read/see the name you wouldn’t recognise it at all.

I believe he claimed it simply because he was SDU & for anonymity
 

shellyg

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Of course, it was never about the money...

Getting some pricey face work done too I noticed, botox and fillers even an implant that I can pick so far, I'm seeing shades of Mickey Rourke there.
 

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shellyg

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LOL, it's really warming up now.

Wait until they all start lagging each other.

BTW, $80 million is not even close.
Have you seen the figures?

I stumbled over a NSW Crime Commission report not long after Mokbel did a runner to Greece but it can't have been the whole story and not sure it should have even been on the net. For the year they took less than $200k.
 

Chameleon75

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Have you seen the figures?

I stumbled over a NSW Crime Commission report not long after Mokbel did a runner to Greece but it can't have been the whole story and not sure it should have even been on the net. For the year they took less than $200k.
I don’t know the amount but I’d expect it to be much higher than that, didn’t they seize properties he had placed in relatives names?

Anyway I got my $30k invoice paid and I’m sure there were others he owed money too that got paid out of the proceeds too.
 

shellyg

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I don’t know the amount but I’d expect it to be much higher than that, didn’t they seize properties he had placed in relatives names?
It was a legitimate document, quite sure because I had names of investigators in NSW they had chasing up there and some of them were on it. Might have been a team report or something.

Who did you have to deal with? Was it in Canberra?
 

Chameleon75

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Did you also get a grilling about where the rest of his money was or where you even thought it might be?
We wrote it off, being Mokbel it wasn’t worth pursuing. When he got extradited back, we received a cheque out of the blue. Honestly do not know if it came from seizures or if he was settling debts to deprive the state. But we neither asked or got asked about it.
 

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We wrote it off, being Mokbel it wasn’t worth pursuing. When he got extradited back, we received a cheque out of the blue. Honestly do not know if it came from seizures or if he was settling debts to deprive the state. But we neither asked or got asked about it.
One of my family businesses took quite a few cheques off Tony over the years, he never once asked for a better deal, they were always good, paid on time and I never heard of him owing anybody. So it might have been him.
 

Chameleon75

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One of my family businesses took quite a few cheques off Tony over the years, he never once asked for a better deal, they were always good, paid on time and I never heard of him owing anybody. So it might have been him.
We were dealing with his development company, first and last project as he didn’t pay.

The two scenarios we thought may have occurred was either he paid as a screw you to the state, or his company got seized and an administrator settled debts.
 

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We were dealing with his development company, first and last project as he didn’t pay.

The two scenarios we thought may have occurred was either he paid as a screw you to the state, or his company got seized and an administrator settled debts.
You received cheques with no identification as to the payee?
 

shellyg

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We were dealing with his development company, first and last project as he didn’t pay.
Our cheques were consistently smaller, between about $6k and $10k but can't remember what company name was on them. Nothing that indicated it was his development company or I'd recall I think. He just strung you out no argument?

He might have had Greece on his mind then, glad you got it in the end.
 

Chameleon75

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Our cheques were consistently smaller, between about $6k and $10k but can't remember what company name was on them. Nothing that indicated it was his development company or I'd recall I think. He just strung you out no argument?

He might have had Greece on his mind then, glad you got it in the end.
The project was well before the gangland war, never got planning approval.
 

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