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[Willo_]

FYI Running Warehouse has a 30% sale at the moment for those of us with a shoe fetish..

I am heavily heavily considering getting some of those ON Cloudmonsters... if anyone has? or can give feedback?

 

[faible]

FYI Running Warehouse has a 30% sale at the moment for those of us with a shoe fetish..

I am heavily heavily considering getting some of those ON Cloudmonsters... if anyone has? or can give feedback?

The code may also stack with other discounts already on shoes for those who'd like to know such things...

 

[Willo_]

The code may also stack with other discounts already on shoes for those who'd like to know such things...

They tend to on that particular site... So I have also had a glance at what else is also on special, as I've gotten some really really cheap shoes previously that way

 

[faible]

They tend to on that particular site... So I have also had a glance at what else is also on special, as I've gotten some really really cheap shoes previously that way

It's a bit hit and miss for some I've been trying, some don't seem to work and others do, like the Rebel V3 in Moonbeam which come down to $111 or the FF More v4 in Black get down to $131

New Balance FuelCell Rebel v3 Men's Shoes Moonbeam | Running Warehouse

www.runningwarehouse.com.au

New Balance Fresh Foam X More v4 Men's Shoes Black/Phan | Running Warehouse

www.runningwarehouse.com.au

The Puma Deviate Nitro 2 also picks it up so is $146

Puma Deviate Nitro 2 Men's Shoes Puma Black | Running Warehouse

www.runningwarehouse.com.au

 

[Willo_]

Deviate Nitro 2's are absolutely cracking shoes IMO

 

[faible]

Deviate Nitro 2's are absolutely cracking shoes IMO

I was pondering them as an alternative to the Speed 3’s, what have you been using them for? Also the Boston 12 seems similar?

 

[Willo_]

I was pondering them as an alternative to the Speed 3’s, what have you been using them for? Also the Boston 12 seems similar?

I've used them for daily runs, long runs even picking up the pace a bit. I hated the Boston 10s so scarred off them since, and NFI about the Speeds.
But my experience is the Pumas are super comfortable right out of the box, they just feel good.. Bit poppy, but also that bouncy softness that I personally like as well

 

[faible]

I've used them for daily runs, long runs even picking up the pace a bit. I hated the Boston 10s so scarred off them since, and NFI about the Speeds.
But my experience is the Pumas are super comfortable right out of the box, they just feel good.. Bit poppy, but also that bouncy softness that I personally like as well

The Boston 12 is very different to the 10 / 11 and sits around the same weight / use case as the Deviate Nitro 2 I'm pretty sure. For $150 the DN2 is pretty appealing but just not sure whether I'm better off ordering another pair of the Speeds.

Never tried the Endorphin Speed? You're missing out there! I've really enjoyed them as a versatile workout shoe; warm-up, cool-down, and reps all without changing shoes or feeling like you're in something that's unsuitable. They're super light compared to the Deviate / Boston 12 but the foam has lasted fairly well (close to 700km in my current pair but they feel pretty dead now). Only real complaint is the outsole is nowhere near the adidas grip (Puma I believe is fantastic as well but haven't tried them) and like most tall shoes they're not great on corners.

 

[Willo_]

The Boston 12 is very different to the 10 / 11 and sits around the same weight / use case as the Deviate Nitro 2 I'm pretty sure. For $150 the DN2 is pretty appealing but just not sure whether I'm better off ordering another pair of the Speeds.

Never tried the Endorphin Speed? You're missing out there! I've really enjoyed them as a versatile workout shoe; warm-up, cool-down, and reps all without changing shoes or feeling like you're in something that's unsuitable. They're super light compared to the Deviate / Boston 12 but the foam has lasted fairly well (close to 700km in my current pair but they feel pretty dead now). Only real complaint is the outsole is nowhere near the adidas grip (Puma I believe is fantastic as well but haven't tried them) and like most tall shoes they're not great on corners.

actually I had some of the Endorphin Speed 2's... and i sold them after 1 run.. I just land on my heels too much and found them too unstable from memory

Not sure if the next version are more stable

 

[faible]

actually I had some of the Endorphin Speed 2's... and i sold them after 1 run.. I just land on my heels too much and found them too unstable from memory

Not sure if the next version are more stable

Version 3 are more stable through the midfoot - forefoot but not sure how they go for genuine heel strikers, Saucony Speedroll works really well for my body so the Speed / Pro have been some of my favourite shoes of the last few years.

 

[Wetdog]

Still on track. Booked accommodation for the family this week. The Sunday of the run is my last day in the naughty 40s… 50th the very next day.

31kms this morning is the longest in a few years. Have pulled up ok. 9 weeks to go so body holds up.


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MinerBoy, tell us about Adelaide?!?

 

[Wetdog]

Hey guys, new poster here.

Having never done any running in my life before last November, I'm doing my first Adel half mara next week.....

My biggest run so far is 18k at about 5:50 mins. Hoping to break 2 hours but think thats a bridge too far and will be happy just to finish.

Any on-the-day advice/tips?

Welcome to the thread mate.

Others have already covered it but I will say it again, my advice is:

1. Do not get carried away and go out too hard early. Have a plan, stick to it early and you can make gains in the last 5-7km if you feel good.

2. No surprises on race day. If you intend to fuel, make sure you sample it in training runs. Same with runners and outfit. Test it all out in advance.

3. Enjoy it and soak it all in. Runners are a great bunch and the support from the crowd and volunteers will be awesome.

Let us know how you go. We expect a full report.

 

[MinerBoy]

MinerBoy, tell us about Adelaide?!?

6 days to go. Petrified. Was building nicely until about 7 weeks ago when the knee blew up. Have managed a few 30km Sundays since but mostly haven't gotten beyond 60-70km weeks with an easy week every 3rd week to allow the knee to settle.

The goal of 4:10 pace and sub 3 is gone. I think I'm all about survival now. Haven't done all the work I wanted to - been more a case of getting to the start line without "too much" pain now. Traded off getting all the miles in for keeping the legs moving. Pretty sure it's going to be a mental battle as much as anything in the second half when things start to seize up. It's going to be tough work but I'm still in

Mara isn't really my distance - body definitely prefers the 5km-HM range. And I prefer speed work to Sunday longs. This is only my 3rd one and first since the knee op. 2016 (3:40) - 2018 (3:21).... my race paces for the shorter stuff says I should be at or under 3:00 but if I'm honest with the build up I will just be delighted to come under that 3:21 from 2018. If I can survive and tick that off I will re-load, keep attacking the gym and see if I can come at another one in the next 12 months.

You can see after cricket season how I built steadily until that peak week in July but it's been about preservation since then.

 

[MinerBoy]

Adelaide side note - driving over Thursday, leaving Tuesday.

Give me some tips for the Friday, Saturday and Monday to keep the wife and daughter entertained!!! * bugger I can't hit the wineries pre-run lol.

I think we plan on doing Hahndorf one day. Looks an interesting little town. What else you got Adelaide?

parkrun will be an eassssyy 5 down at Victor Harbour.

 

[Hodges 153!]

Adelaide side note - driving over Thursday, leaving Tuesday.

Give me some tips for the Friday, Saturday and Monday to keep the wife and daughter entertained!!! * bugger I can't hit the wineries pre-run lol.

I think we plan on doing Hahndorf one day. Looks an interesting little town. What else you got Adelaide?

parkrun will be an eassssyy 5 down at Victor Harbour.

Depends what you're all in to!

Central Market is worth a look.

Rundle Mall is the CBD shopping strip.

Continue down Rundle St to the East End for plenty of eats and drinks.

Catch the tram down to Glenelg is an easy way to see some beach.

Head to Adelaide Oval after the finish line, and you can see Port Adelaide fix up Richmond at lunchtime Sunday.

Do check out the Oval Roof climb activity - well worth doing if you're interested.

Cleland Wildlife Park is 20 mins from the city up at Mount Lofty - might be worth looking at.

Also, if you're heading to Hahndorf, check out Beerenberg - makers of the best tomato sauce on the planet haha.

 

[Hodges 153!]

Welcome to the thread mate.

Others have already covered it but I will say it again, my advice is:

1. Do not get carried away and go out too hard early. Have a plan, stick to it early and you can make gains in the last 5-7km if you feel good.

2. No surprises on race day. If you intend to fuel, make sure you sample it in training runs. Same with runners and outfit. Test it all out in advance.

3. Enjoy it and soak it all in. Runners are a great bunch and the support from the crowd and volunteers will be awesome.

Let us know how you go. We expect a full report.

Thanks for that!

Have tested out all gear/fuel.

My plans for a last 18k yesterday got thwarted, all I could fit in was 12k @ 5:44.

Sooooooooo close to 2 hour goal pace, but still unsure if I can do slightly quicker for further than I've done before.

Will be interesting, I'm going to have to be careful not to go out too hard.

Question - do you drink fluids during a half, or get through?

 

[MinerBoy]

Depends what you're all in to!

Central Market is worth a look.

Rundle Mall is the CBD shopping strip.

Continue down Rundle St to the East End for plenty of eats and drinks.

Catch the tram down to Glenelg is an easy way to see some beach.

Head to Adelaide Oval after the finish line, and you can see Port Adelaide fix up Richmond at lunchtime Sunday.

Do check out the Oval Roof climb activity - well worth doing if you're interested.

Cleland Wildlife Park is 20 mins from the city up at Mount Lofty - might be worth looking at.

Also, if you're heading to Hahndorf, check out Beerenberg - makers of the best tomato sauce on the planet haha.

Great thanks. Absolutely no way I'm doing the roof. Don't want to before and won't be capable after the run lol.

What's the likelihood of a non Port/Tigers fan being able to get access to the game? I imagine it would be capacity?

Cheers for the suggestions.

 

[Hodges 153!]

Great thanks. Absolutely no way I'm doing the roof. Don't want to before and won't be capable after the run lol.

What's the likelihood of a non Port/Tigers fan being able to get access to the game? I imagine it would be capacity?

Cheers for the suggestions.

Haha the roof is great!

Being a Sunday lunchtime you'd have no troubles getting game tix.

 

[darrenmorgan]

Thanks for that!

Have tested out all gear/fuel.

My plans for a last 18k yesterday got thwarted, all I could fit in was 12k @ 5:44.

Sooooooooo close to 2 hour goal pace, but still unsure if I can do slightly quicker for further than I've done before.

Will be interesting, I'm going to have to be careful not to go out too hard.

Question - do you drink fluids during a half, or get through?

Definitely drink, obviously depends on conditions and frequency etc but I usually get some water at every second station during a half. Usually have at least one gel too, and often a 2nd late in the run.

 

[Willo_]

Thanks for that!

Have tested out all gear/fuel.

My plans for a last 18k yesterday got thwarted, all I could fit in was 12k @ 5:44.

Sooooooooo close to 2 hour goal pace, but still unsure if I can do slightly quicker for further than I've done before.

Will be interesting, I'm going to have to be careful not to go out too hard.

Question - do you drink fluids during a half, or get through?

I would absolutely drink fluids, and to honest for the first one I'd walk through the drink stations and make sure you get some water in, just a few sips or mouthfuls will be enough IMO but it gives you a little mini break and freshen up as well.. I generally do that and I've done several half's.. I also can't generally get the water in from the bloody plastic cups while running hahaha.. That said I only took water once during the run melbourne half and I managed to squeeze/fold the cup to make it a spout and get it in while running.

I walked through last year on my first marathon and I'll be absolutely doing it again this year, losing a few seconds is less of an issue for me than not getting in enough fluid

 

[Wetdog]

Thanks for that!

Have tested out all gear/fuel.

My plans for a last 18k yesterday got thwarted, all I could fit in was 12k @ 5:44.

Sooooooooo close to 2 hour goal pace, but still unsure if I can do slightly quicker for further than I've done before.

Will be interesting, I'm going to have to be careful not to go out too hard.

Question - do you drink fluids during a half, or get through?

Well, firstly everybody is built different, so you should do what works for you.

But for me, I rarely drink fluids in a half. I wouldn’t have any fuel either.

But I tend not to run in conditions over 25 degrees and I’m not super fast (PB around circa 1:45 and now more like circa 1:55).

In Adelaide next week it will be 17 or 18 degrees max during the day, so cooler than that during the half. I wouldn’t drink any fluids in those conditions.

When I run longer distances, I tend to have my first drink around 22-24km, then every 4 or 5km after that depending on the weather and how hard I’m pushing myself.

Edit - Fluids and fuel are obviously very important and can be the difference between setting a good time or even finishing the run. You will get to know your requirements over time. Often you need the fuel before you know it, so I tend to fuel well in advance when on a big run. On 40km, for example, I fuel at 10km, 20km and 30km.

 

[Wetdog]

6 days to go. Petrified. Was building nicely until about 7 weeks ago when the knee blew up. Have managed a few 30km Sundays since but mostly haven't gotten beyond 60-70km weeks with an easy week every 3rd week to allow the knee to settle.

The goal of 4:10 pace and sub 3 is gone. I think I'm all about survival now. Haven't done all the work I wanted to - been more a case of getting to the start line without "too much" pain now. Traded off getting all the miles in for keeping the legs moving. Pretty sure it's going to be a mental battle as much as anything in the second half when things start to seize up. It's going to be tough work but I'm still in

Mara isn't really my distance - body definitely prefers the 5km-HM range. And I prefer speed work to Sunday longs. This is only my 3rd one and first since the knee op. 2016 (3:40) - 2018 (3:21).... my race paces for the shorter stuff says I should be at or under 3:00 but if I'm honest with the build up I will just be delighted to come under that 3:21 from 2018. If I can survive and tick that off I will re-load, keep attacking the gym and see if I can come at another one in the next 12 months.

You can see after cricket season how I built steadily until that peak week in July but it's been about preservation since then.

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For some reason when I posted the question I thought the Adelaide Marathon was last weekend.

It looks like you have done a tonne of preparation so try to stay positive. I think you are right - you need to modify your time expectations a little and focus on finishing and enjoying it!

When my knee began to hurt the week before my race, I took the view that it was better to quit in the race (if necessary) than beforehand which would ensure no regrets. Fortunately, I made it. Although, I paid for it over the next two months.

I was super stressed beforehand about my body stacking up - so I know how you feel - I mean my knee felt real stiff and a bit sore after sitting on the bus for 45 min to get to the start line of the race.

Good luck!

I spent 24hours in Adelaide last year. I hit the market for dinner and did a kayak tour out to the ship graveyard in Port Adelaide. That might be a good one for you - it doesn’t require use of your legs!

 

[mighty_sainters]

I’ve got the Melbourne marathon to look forward to in 8 weeks.

I’m struggling on my Sunday long runs with having to go to the toilet! Any tips? My main worry for the race is I’ll need to take a pit stop at some point.

 

[Wetdog]

I’ve got the Melbourne marathon to look forward to in 8 weeks.

I’m struggling on my Sunday long runs with having to go to the toilet! Any tips? My main worry for the race is I’ll need to take a pit stop at some point.

A bunch of us on here will be joining you in your quest to conquer the streets of Melbourne.

I presume you are talking no. 2s?!?!?

Maybe try different fuel in training?

And/or have a double espresso an hour before the run? That should induce labour.

It’s not the end of the world if you need to go!

 

[PoopingHindi]

I’ve got the Melbourne marathon to look forward to in 8 weeks.

I’m struggling on my Sunday long runs with having to go to the toilet! Any tips? My main worry for the race is I’ll need to take a pit stop at some point.

I think it’s different for everyone but it’s probably diet related, you just need to find the trigger.
I don’t eat dairy the day before a long run or hard workout. Curry the night before is obviously off limits and I try to keep fibre to a minimum.

as suggested coffee works well to flush the system if you have time beforehand or you could try Imodium.