Saints and Indigenous players

[Saintos The ITK]

That's a funny one cultural heritage, my family always associated with being British and very much English even though they haven't been English for generations. I remember my grandmother bagging out the French like it was some how relevant generations later. It was pretty funny when my mum got a genealogy thing done and found out we were originally from France, Germany, Belgium and even had some Ukrainian, Hungarian and a couple of other races mixed in if you go back far enough. My family are generally considering themselves to be WASPs though still. We are actually predominantly from Brittany and Cornwall, Wales etc many of the family so not even proper Anglo Saxons. Just a bunch of mongrels.

Hmmmmm and I thought you were 100% pure Mexican.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Aboriginal people must be of Aboriginal descent. If descent is hard to prove because of lack of records or unclear because of the passage of time since a known Aboriginal ancestor, then it is appropriate to consider whether a person identifies as an Aboriginal person and/or is accepted by their community as Aboriginal. Elder Aborigines can quickly interrogate a person and come to know whether their claim of descent is genuine. Torres Strait Islanders allow adoption into their family and this includes adoption of persons of no TI descent. adp Murris are Aborigines from Queensland and do not allow anyone to become an Aborigine just by self identification.

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That's true, sorry for confusion I didn't mean elective association.

 

[gringo2011]

Aboriginal people must be of Aboriginal descent. If descent is hard to prove because of lack of records or unclear because of the passage of time since a known Aboriginal ancestor, then it is appropriate to consider whether a person identifies as an Aboriginal person and/or is accepted by their community as Aboriginal. Elder Aborigines can quickly interrogate a person and come to know whether their claim of descent is genuine. Torres Strait Islanders allow adoption into their family and this includes adoption of persons of no TI descent. adp Murris are Aborigines from Queensland and do not allow anyone to become an Aborigine just by self identification.

I know this stuff can get ugly, there were two groups fighting over being the rightful Tasmanian aboriginals. It was to take control of substantial amounts of funding and deciding where to spend it. Both groups were very european looking and it put a lot of people into opposing camps with both trying to discredit each other. It's very hard to prove.

 

[sonnywalters]

What's missing in this list?

Adelaide: Anthony Wilson, Charlie Cameron, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Eddie Betts
Brisbane Lions: Josh McGuiness, Allen Christensen
Carlton: Clem Smith, Chris Yarran, Andrew Walker, Liam Jones
Collingwood: Travis Varcoe, Tony Armstrong
Essendon: Courtney Dempsey, Jake Long, Shaun Edwards
Fremantle: Michael Johnson, Stephen Hill, Alex Pearce, Danyle Pearce, Michael Walters, Brady Grey, Jonathon Griffin
Geelong: Matthew Stokes, Zachary Bates, Nakia Cockatoo Steven Motlop, Bradley Hartman
Gold Coast: Jarrod Harbrow, Jack Martin, Brandon Matera, Steven May, Jarrod Garlett, Sean Lemmons, Timmy Sumner Harley Bennell, Brandon Matera, Touk Miller
Greater Western Sydney: Curtly Hampton, Zach Williams, Nathan Wilson, Jeremy Finlayson, Jarrod Pickett, Paul Ahern
Hawthorn: Cyril Rioli, Shaun Burgoyne, Bradley Hill, Jermaine Miller-Lewis, Jed Anderson
Melbourne: Jay Kennedy-Harris, Neville Jetta, Jeff Garlett
North Melbourne: Lindsay Thomas, Daniel Wells
Richmond: Shane Edwards, Nathan Drummond
Port Adelaide: Chad Wingard, Jake Neade, Patrick Ryder, Brendon Ah Chee, Nathan Krakouer, Karl Amon, Jarman Impey
StKilda: .......
Sydney Swans: Adam Goodes, Lewis Jetta, Abaina Davis, Lance Franklin
Western Bulldogs: Brett Goodes, Joel Hamling, Koby Stevens
West Coast: Josh Hill, Sharrod Wellingham, Jamie Bennell, Malcolm Karpany, Murray Newman

Thankfully we have the Maori rookies, otherwise we might look a little biased.

Interesting to see how Nathan Krakouer goes at Port this year.

 

[ike2112]

Didn't earlier posts confirm that you don't have to be of aboriginal descent to be aboriginal?

Now I feel a bit better about not understanding; seems it's not all that clear a matter!

 

[Kilroy]

Interesting to see how Nathan Krakouer goes at Port this year.

Could be a great return for the former Flying Boomerang. They breed 'em tough where he's from.

Read an interesting article about his cousin Andrew now working in prisons to help inmates reform and prepare for life after jail. He'd know a bit about comebacks too.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/an...est-to-aid-youth/story-fni0fiyv-1227123586558

 

[sonnywalters]

Hate to say it because its now ancient history but I probably would have used pick 41 on Clem Smith over Lonie.
Great having a local kid from Seaford I know. Hopefully I am wrong on this. Might have been line ball decision if we were looking at a small fwd for that pick... Little Clem is a real goer. ON the angry pills. Could end up a cult hero.

 

[sonnywalters]

Didn't earlier posts confirm that you don't have to be of aboriginal descent to be aboriginal?

Now I feel a bit better about not understanding; seems it's not all that clear a matter!

I haven't read them but I think you do.