Sanity Prevails: No Fed Square Apple store!

[A Cut Above]

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...n-permit-for-apple-store-20190405-p51b97.html

Victory!!

Nothing personal Apple, but **** you and every greedy tax-evading multinational like you. I'm super happy we won't be giving up prime Victorian public land to help fill your already overflowing coffers. Peddle your overpriced Chinese-made shit elsewhere.

Now we just need to discover which elements of the Andrews government were paid off by Apple to force through this ridiculous proposal in the first place and drag them slowly over hot coals. In the meantime let's celebrate a victory for common sense and people power.

 

[QuietB]

I want the gas and fuel towers back. So many wasted bricks

 

[Ron The Bear]

Luddites can get ****ed.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Luddites can get ******.

Lolwut?

 

[Sainteric]

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...n-permit-for-apple-store-20190405-p51b97.html

Victory!!

Nothing personal Apple, but **** you and every greedy tax-evading multinational like you. I'm super happy we won't be giving up prime Victorian public land to help fill your already overflowing coffers. Peddle your overpriced Chinese-made shit elsewhere.

Now we just need to discover which elements of the Andrews government were paid off by Apple to force through this ridiculous proposal in the first place and drag them slowly over hot coals. In the meantime let's celebrate a victory for common sense and people power.

No we want a third rate pub there, victory

 

[Ned_Flanders]

No we want a third rate pub there, victory

Pub beats apple store any day of the week

Apple stores should stick to Chadstone and Bourke Street and the like

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Pub beats apple store any day of the week

Apple stores should stick to Chadstone and Bourke Street and the like

Apple stores should be moved out to the shit-tier shopping centres like fountain gate and Watergardens to keep people that buy Apple products from Apple stores out of the CBD, thus preventing them from disturbing any remaining sense of amenity that the city has.

 

[AM]

Does it really matter, one way or the other? Candidly, it's not an issue I could give a toss about.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Does it really matter, one way or the other? Candidly, it's not an issue I could give a toss about.

Well, you probably should because a city that trades on livability shouldn't be taking one of the very few open spaces in the inner city that's actually a nice place to spend time (excluding 12pm - 1pm when it's filled with ****ing schoolkids) and turning into a construction zone for another three years on a whim. Not to mention that said construction effort is solely for the purpose of ripping down a perfectly good building that usually hosts cafes, art and culture, and replacing it with some bland, boring monument to consumerism which adds literally nothing to the unique dynamic of the space that is fed square.

To be blunt, if that proposal had have gone ahead, it would have set a truly awful precedent about what sort of environment is worth being preserved and what isn't and I've no doubt in my mind that said precedent would have been used and abused to justify all sorts of unsolicited yet financially attractive proposals that go against the amenity of living and working in the CBD.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Well, you probably should because a city that trades on livability shouldn't be taking one of the very few open spaces in the inner city that's actually a nice place to spend time (excluding 12pm - 1pm when it's filled with ******* schoolkids) and turning into a construction zone for another three years on a whim. Not to mention that said construction effort is solely for the purpose of ripping down a perfectly good building that usually hosts cafes, art and culture, and replacing it with some bland, boring monument to consumerism which adds literally nothing to the unique dynamic of the space that is fed square.

It's a godawful waste of a premium location at present. What heritage value the former city morgue site has is beyond me. But having made the ruling, it should be very difficult to get approval to build anything useful there.

 

[AM]

Well, you probably should because a city that trades on livability shouldn't be taking one of the very few open spaces in the inner city that's actually a nice place to spend time (excluding 12pm - 1pm when it's filled with ******* schoolkids) and turning into a construction zone for another three years on a whim. Not to mention that said construction effort is solely for the purpose of ripping down a perfectly good building that usually hosts cafes, art and culture, and replacing it with some bland, boring monument to consumerism which adds literally nothing to the unique dynamic of the space that is fed square.

To be blunt, if that proposal had have gone ahead, it would have set a truly awful precedent about what sort of environment is worth being preserved and what isn't and I've no doubt in my mind that said precedent would have been used and abused to justify all sorts of unsolicited yet financially attractive proposals that go against the amenity of living and working in the CBD.

If you get so energised about a soulless architectural wasteland that has so little to commend it - and attracts relatively poor numbers - when we have so many critical issues facing the planet I'd respectfully suggest you need to have a serious look at your priorities.

The good thing that may come of the Apple store rejection is that it looks like a review of this soulless wasteland is to take place which hopefully will result in some life being breathed into it.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

If you get so energised about a soulless architectural wasteland that has so little to commend it - and attracts relatively poor numbers - when we have so many critical issues facing the planet I'd respectfully suggest you need to have a serious look at your priorities.

Oh piss off with this weak shit. Just one look at my posting history will show I have never previously spoken about this issue on BigFooty amongst the the numerous other topics I'm happy to discuss on the SRP board. Not to mention how ludicrous it is to hint that people shouldn't have or express opinions on minor issues when there's bigger fish to fry so take this stupid, fallacious, ridiculous assertion and find a better argument.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Oh piss off with this weak shit. Just one look at my posting history will show I have never previously spoken about this issue on BigFooty amongst the the numerous other topics I'm happy to discuss on the SRP board. Not to mention how ludicrous it is to hint that people shouldn't have or express opinions on minor issues when there's bigger fish to fry so take this stupid, fallacious, ridiculous assertion and find a better argument.

Don't you know there's children starving in Africa! Don't even dare to comment on a single issue until that's resolved.

 

[CheapCharlie]

The Cult of Apple needs to build itself more places of worship.

People have the right to queue for days on end to buy an overpriced gadget.

Life will have no meaning for these people now

 

[Ron The Bear]

 

[its free real estate]

I don’t like Apple or any other multinational attempting to monopolise public space, but Fed Square is an absolute eyesore. That a 20 year architectural disaster has “heritage” status shows how bereft of meaningful culture we are.

 

[AM]

Oh piss off with this weak shit. Just one look at my posting history will show I have never previously spoken about this issue on BigFooty amongst the the numerous other topics I'm happy to discuss on the SRP board. Not to mention how ludicrous it is to hint that people shouldn't have or express opinions on minor issues when there's bigger fish to fry so take this stupid, fallacious, ridiculous assertion and find a better argument.

Quite an aggressive little sausage, aren't you.

Only you would suggest I put you weren't entitled to a viewpoint. My viewpoint is I couldn't care one way or the other and in the scheme of things it's unimportant. I'd even go further and suggest that would be the viewpoint of most of us.

As I did say, the positive is there is to be a review of this architectural blight and soulless space (perhaps that is the bit that got up your skirt) as a consequence of the Apple rejection.

Settle!

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Quite an aggressive little sausage, aren't you.

Only you would suggest I put you weren't entitled to a viewpoint. My viewpoint is I couldn't care one way or the other and in the scheme of things it's unimportant. I'd even go further and suggest that would be the viewpoint of most of us.

As I did say, the positive is there is to be a review of this architectural blight and soulless space (perhaps that is the bit that got up your skirt) as a consequence of the Apple rejection.

Settle!

Why did you even bother typing this out when you've expressed nothing in this post beyond "I don't care"? Isn't there an easier way of showing you don't care about something, like not posting? This is a really odd flex.

 

[AM]

Why did you even bother typing this out when you've expressed nothing in this post beyond "I don't care"? Isn't there an easier way of showing you don't care about something, like not posting? This is a really odd flex.

Um! I think I made a comment about the possible benefits of the rejection of the Apple store in my last para. Doesn't quite fit your comment that I've expressed nothing "...beyond I don't care"

You seem quite exercised by someone offering a counterpoint to your it's a "....a nice place to spend time" view. You're either easily pleased or have a vested interest.

Anyway, enjoy your time in your special place sans the Apple store.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Um! I think I made a comment about the possible benefits of the rejection of the Apple store in my last para. Doesn't quite fit your comment that I've expressed nothing "...beyond I don't care"

I guess we have different views of what constitutes a worthwhile expression and what doesn't. Personally, a non-sequitur about the architecture in Fed Square being not to your taste and hoping somebody will change the drapes seems to be adding very little, given that the topic of discussion in this thread isn't that people find Fed Square unappealing to behold. Even though I've articulated to you why I found this development to be detrimental to the city space both in the short term and the long term, and given an opportunity to rebut, you've really not added much at all aside from trumpeting your superiority for not caring.

You seem quite exercised by someone offering a counterpoint to your it's a "....a nice place to spend time" view. You're either easily pleased or have a vested interest.

I really don't care if you don't find Fed Square to be a nice place any more than I might care that you support Geelong; you're a single data point in a city of 5 million people and hardly of note considering the volume of different activities and events that make use of the space every week. But regardless, if you're unhappy enough to care about the way that the concept of Federation Square has been realised, shouldn't you care a little bit that this latest development would ruin any chance it had to actually become that nicer space you want? Or do you just want another Bourke St Mall? Or are you the one with the vested interest and just flying the flag for the ALP at the moment? After all, this Apple debacle is the Andrews government's hack job.

Anyway, enjoy your time in your special place sans the Apple store.

Cheers for the sentiment, I'll be sure to do so.

 

[Del191229]

Absolute bullshit decision. Fed Square heritage?

And it wasn't just rows of iPhones, it was a lot more than that.

Stupid Greens always saying we need to move to a low carbon knowledge economy.

The Apple store a key element of building that, now we have reputation as hard to work with.

(Full disclosure: my partner worked to set it all up)

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Absolute bullshit decision. Fed Square heritage?

And it wasn't just rows of iPhones, it was a lot more than that.

Stupid Greens always saying we need to move to a low carbon knowledge economy.

The Apple store a key element of building that, now we have reputation as hard to work with.

(Full disclosure: my partner worked to set it all up)

It sells a lot more than iPhones? iPads and macbooks isn't a lot more

Imo design looked completely out of place for the area. It looks like one of those temp buildings apartment developers put up to promote a development preconstruction. It just had a suburban look to me

 

[Del191229]

It sells a lot more than iPhones? iPads and macbooks isn't a lot more

Imo design looked completely out of place for the area. It looks like one of those temp buildings apartment developers put up to promote a development preconstruction. It just had a suburban look to me

They would have done exhibitions there, teaching kids to code, it wasn't a retail store.

The rest of the buildings there are ugly crap too.

If they were proposing to put a retail store there, or knock down something of actual heritage, fair enough.

But this was very different.

 

[Ron The Bear]

It sells a lot more than iPhones? iPads and macbooks isn't a lot more

Apple TV brings Kayo goodness.

Have walked past Fed Square at least 500 times on the river side, but through it maybe 2-3 times, and only then to get to the other side.

It would've been an improvement, and a reason to visit the site occasionally. A pity.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Apple TV brings Kayo goodness.

Have walked past Fed Square at least 500 times on the river side, but through it maybe 2-3 times, and only then to get to the other side.

It would've been an improvement, and a reason to visit the site occasionally. A pity.

Have you been down there? The bank looks zero like that