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The Hay-maker

By Stephen Reilly
and Michael Gleeson
October 5, 2005

. . . and Hawthorn gets two first-round draft picks plus one second-round pick.

THE first blockbuster deal of the trade period was nearing completion last night, a complicated four-club exchange involving Jonathan Hay, Daniel Motlop, Byron Pickett, Steven Armstrong and a host of draft picks.

A deal created out of the impasse surrounding Hay and Motlop, the arrangement is expected to mean the Hawthorn full-back crosses to the Kangaroos, Motlop gets his way and makes Port Adelaide his new home, Byron Pickett starts over with Melbourne and Armstrong leaves the Demons to join Motlop at Alberton. Hawthorn will receive the two first-round draft picks it has demanded for Hay and another in the second round.

The new deal became the most viable option late last night when Melbourne introduced itself into negotiations with its interest in Pickett. To that point, Fremantle had been unable to put a satisfactory offer to Hawthorn for Hay and a Brisbane Lions delegation to Darwin had failed to convince Motlop that his future lay at the Gabba.

The Dockers unsuccessfully offered draft selection 10 for Hay yesterday afternoon and refused to sweeten the offer with Ryan Murphy, the 20-year-old Victorian the Hawks wanted included in the deal. A day earlier, Hawthorn had rejected a similar offer from the Kangaroos of pick 13.Hours after Fremantle's bid was turned down, Brisbane coach Leigh Matthews, assistant coach Craig Lambert and star player Chris Johnson flew to Darwin to meet Motlop, who had been considered singularly crucial to the Kangaroos' plans of acquiring Hay.

The trio, joined by former Brisbane player and Top End icon Michael McLean, met Motlop on a Darwin beach for more than an hour, but were unable to persuade him. The Kangaroos had been hoping to trade Motlop to Brisbane for the Lions' first-round selection, pick nine, which they believed was necessary to secure Hay.

The Kangaroos are expected to decide this morning whether to release Motlop to Port and give over picks 13, 14 and 29 to Hawthorn in exchange for Hay and pick 22. If they do so, Pickett will cross to Melbourne in exchange for Armstrong and pick 28, which will be on-traded to Hawthorn.

Fremantle is not expected to make an improved offer. It is believed the Dockers were reconsidering their commitment to acquiring Hay last night after it became apparent they would either have to give over more draft picks or act on the risk of trading a potential star such as Graham Polak or Murphy.

Adelaide's decision yesterday to accept pick 17 from St Kilda for Fergus Watts and conclude the first deal of this year's trade period immediately raised the prospect of the Crows on-trading the selection for Brisbane flanker Troy Selwood, who flew to Adelaide last night for a meeting today.

"He's on our radar but we haven't yet committed in any form. We're still thinking that one through," Adelaide football manager John Reid said of the 21-year-old Lion.

Brisbane's Llane Spaanderman, 19, also is being linked with the Crows, who met Western Bulldog Patrick Bowden in Adelaide yesterday but are understood to have decided against pursuing a trade for him.

According to coach Grant Thomas, the Saints are considering a versatile role for Watts, the 20-year-old who was a first-round selection in the 2003 draft.

The Kangaroos met West Coast yesterday to discuss a trade for Daniel McConnell, 19, who wants to return to Victoria. Carlton also has an interest in McConnell and has hatched an ambitious plan of moving Trent Sporn to Adelaide for pick 17 and on-trading that selection to the Eagles. Sporn, like Selwood, flew to Adelaide last night to meet Crows coach Neil Craig this morning.

Essendon defender Ted Richards wants to take his career to Sydney but the Dons are exploring deals elsewhere, including a swap with Carlton for Scott Camporeale. The Western Bulldogs are also keen on Richards but are not prepared to give up anything more than pick 27 for the 22-year-old.
 
Yes lets hope this is the real deal, thankyou to all clubs involved. Freo just stay the f@ck out of it! Go look for someone else who isn't so overated.
 

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Y is everyone happy?

We have probably lost out Pickett, Armstrong & Hay - all players that would have improved our side....yeah the Dunn, Pick 10 deal would have been poor from Freo's sake, but I'm still not happy losing players that we could have potentially traded for.

IMO

Trade Polak
Trade Dunn
Trade Gilmore
 
Plugga said:
Y is everyone happy?

We are happy cause we arent going to get r*ped by Hawthorn as some media reports throughout the day have suggested



Trade Polak
Trade Dunn
Trade Gilmore

There ares still 2 days for these trades to happen remember
 
Plugga said:
Y is everyone happy?

We have probably lost out Pickett, Armstrong & Hay - all players that would have improved our side....yeah the Dunn, Pick 10 deal would have been poor from Freo's sake, but I'm still not happy losing players that we could have potentially traded for.

IMO

Trade Polak
Trade Dunn
Trade Gilmore

I'm glad you don't work as the recruitment manager of Fremantle then
 
Those 3 players H,P & A remind me of a wind up toy. Plenty of go to start with but as the key turns slower and slower it eventually stops.I am of the opinion that they are at the latter part of that cycle and have almost run there race.Will a new club rewind the key??? big call
 
Who would better know how good a football player Hay is then there own supporters. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201850
I think Freo coaching staff are perhaps having too much recollection of Hay 3 years ago and not Hay today plus his injury riduled body. Lets keep our fingers crossed we don't chase him anymore.
 
Redgum said:
Who would better know how good a football player Hay is then there own supporters. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201850
I think Freo coaching staff are perhaps having too much recollection of Hay 3 years ago and not Hay today plus his injury riduled body. Lets keep our fingers crossed we don't chase him anymore.
Thanks goodness is all I can say.

Would have been a disaster to trade the Murphster. He alone is worth more than Hay.
 
Thank gawd. Not sure if sanity prevailed though, if it wasn't for north and the hawks they would have forced this madness through.
 

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I listened to sen & 3aw last night.
Trading finishes at 2.00pm

Not once did anyone say anything about Dunn and pick ten until I watched the news on Perth TV and then listened to Barra and Fanta (I know I shouldn't).

The Age this morning said pick 10 only had been put on the table.

I reckon the Perth Media are just trolling us which is backed up by the "Polak to the Egirls Crap".

Just on Polly, we won 6 out of our last 8 and the Polly was missing for the two losses.

I reckon we would have lost both the saints and Pies games as well if he wasn't there.
 
Thats great news cause I was a bit worried last night when I heard on Ch10 that Freo had offered pick 10 and Dunn for Hay!!!

Its a shame we can't get Pickett, but he'd probably cost us much more than he's worth. Now lets just concentrate on getting Spaanderman over.
 
pav_is_god said:
Thats great news cause I was a bit worried last night when I heard on Ch10 that Freo had offered pick 10 and Dunn for Hay!!!

Its a shame we can't get Pickett, but he'd probably cost us much more than he's worth. Now lets just concentrate on getting Spaanderman over.

Amen. Pick 42 should do it. If not then pick 42 and pick 58 should just about see Llane a Docker
 
Kapow!!! said:
Amen. Pick 42 should do it. If not then pick 42 and pick 58 should just about see Llane a Docker
I am open to Spandexman too, but don't quite see where he would actually play. Would he simply be a developing/reserve ruck? There doesn't seem room in the forward line.
 
theGav56 said:
I am open to Spandexman too, but don't quite see where he would actually play. Would he simply be a developing/reserve ruck? There doesn't seem room in the forward line.
He wouldn't get a game straight away. He'd be a project player and back up ruck to JLo and 211.
 

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The super deal hasn't gone through yet so we're not out of the woods just yet. Trading closes at 2pm EST so hopefully it gets finalised today.
 
theGav56 said:
I am open to Spandexman too, but don't quite see where he would actually play. Would he simply be a developing/reserve ruck? There doesn't seem room in the forward line.

He's been playing most of the AFLQ season in defence around CHB/FB so he could be that tall defender we're after. 198cms. He's fit, fast. He's worth having a shot at
 
Dunn was never offered

The Fremantle Football Club wishes to correct reports in the media that circulated out of Tuesday’s talks at trade week that Fremantle has offered their first round draft choice, selection 10, and young utility player Ryley Dunn to Hawthorn in exchange for Jonathan Hay.
 
BB gun said:
Dunn was never offered

The Fremantle Football Club wishes to correct reports in the media that circulated out of Tuesday’s talks at trade week that Fremantle has offered their first round draft choice, selection 10, and young utility player Ryley Dunn to Hawthorn in exchange for Jonathan Hay.

Good to see the club responding to members and supporters on concerns about the club. :thumbsu:
 
inferno66 said:
Hay is offically with the Roos

Can we count our chickens now?? :D

Lets do it then! Dunn ......... Polak ......... Pick 10 ........ :D

But seriously, I am still a bit worried as I haven't seen/heard any confirmation on this trade from any reputible sources, I have been listening to SEN all morning and there has been no mention of the deal.
 

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