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5:54 PM Mon 27 Sep, 2010
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Sam Jacobs has requested a trade to the Adelaide Crows
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The Carlton Football Club wishes to advise that Sam Jacobs has requested a trade to the Adelaide Crows during the upcoming exchange period.

Jacobs has played 17 AFL matches for Carlton since making his debut in Round 1, 2009. He was recruited to the Club from Androssan via Woodville-West Torrens in the 2007 Rookie Draft.

“While disappointed with Sam’s decision to return back to South Australia, the Club will now commence discussions with the Adelaide Crows to enable a suitable exchange.” Carlton’s General Manager Football Operations Steven Icke said.
 

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Absolutely devastated. Great footballer and even better bloke. Will be very much missed especially in the goal pocket when there's no hope and out comes big red clunking a great mark.

Good luck Big Red :thumbsu:
 
congrats to the big fella on being shortlisted for the AA squad! IMO he was the best tap-ruckman we had on the list when he rightly requested a trade. still remember his tearing mummy a new one in the finals while everyone was jizzing about how good mummy was and how mummy was going to be give their mids first use. has gone even further and improved the rest of his game so he isnt considered to be a one trick pony. hats off to the big fella! would have loved to see him in the navy blue this year.

EDIT: also noticed he is rated the highest of all ruckman on this http://www.bigpondsport.com/the-best-50-players-in-the-afl/tabid/91/newsid/94825/default.aspx

i know its not much of a respected source but if two years ago anyone was to say that sauce would be ranked behind only murph and judd at the club, we all would have laughed...hats off the the big fella
 
Yep, I remember being really impressed with his hands, kicking, footy smarts and ruck work at the time and he was looking like being something special. He was also taking some pretty good marks in the VFL and at times in the AFL. Back then all our ruckmen were around on par but his skills were always so much cleaner than the rest of them that I thought that letting him go a little too easy was always going to come back to dissapoint us Carlton fans and for me it has. Any way well done to the big fella, going to be a very good ruckman for a long time.
 

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Well done to Sauce - thoroughly deserved following an exceptional season.

It's not all that common for a player to leave a club, yet still be held in such high regard by supporters of the club he left.

There certainly aren't many, if any Carlton supporters who don't with Sauce the very best. A really good bloke from all reports, and an exceptional footballer.

Just on this - I hope most who held concerns when the trade went through, are feeling a little better about what we received in the exchange.

Both McInnes and McCarthy showed signs this year that they can be a significant part of the future of the Carlton Football Club.

I've not been impressed by a Carlton debutante as much as I was by Andy Mac in quite some time. Really sad and unfortunate injury but if he approaches his recovery and rehabilitation in the same manner as he does his football, he'll be a quality player for many a year.

McCarthy only played the one senior game in 2012, but I made an effort to watch him particularly closely. He's a monster of a kid with nice skills, who makes the right decisions with and without the ball. Drifted in and out of the game as is to be expected but I saw enough to suggest there's most certainly plenty to work with there.

Could easily be a wonderful trade for both parties if things continue to progress as they have.
 
Honestly really happy for Sauce. He seems a great fella and you'd want him to succeed no matter where he is.

Like all trades though, you hope for a good result for both parties ("bending the other over" is such a BF thing it seems) and I think in the end it's certainly looking good, as Jeremias was saying.

I really like the look of Andy Mac and Paddy Mac ( :p ) so far, even if some patience may be needed for the latter. The former, except for unlucky injury (as usual with us) can just slot in and play.
 
He's a ripper, Sauce.

That trade was a mistake as soon as we made it, because we traded like an amateurish VFL club, not like a professional asset-managing ruthless club in a post-Moneyball era.

The correct move would have been to sell off the top of our 4-deep ruck stocks, one of Kreuzer, Hampson or Warnock, 1-for-1 for another asset we needed (duh, key forward), and promote the diamond-in-the-rough Jacobs to #1 ruck. When you find a rough diamond you DO NOT sell them. You never get value. You sell the NAME player with pedigree, because people will pay top dollar, then you ride the just-as-effective rough diamond. AFL teams are still a few years away from figuring this out.

FWIW, even this off-season we should be selling a ruckman harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd for a blue-chip young midfielder. I say Warnock to GWS for... Tyson or something.
 

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Faz 2000 said:
When you find a rough diamond you DO NOT sell them. You never get value. You sell the NAME player with pedigree, because people will pay top dollar, then you ride the just-as-effective rough diamond. AFL teams are still a few years away from figuring this out.
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You got it Faz. Although I would have kept Krezuer.
 
Monkey King said:
You got it Faz. Although I would have kept Krezuer.
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Sure, ideally. But Jacobs' emergence made trading Kreuzer a legitimate option. Teams would have coughed up a serious KPF prospect-plus for Kreuz. Could have been T Walker from Adelaide or something. How'd we look right now with Jacobs in the ruck and Walker in the forward line? It would have been a balls-out move, but one that could have worked out very well.

AFL teams tend to still think that whoever gets the best player or the early draft pick wins a given deal. "Oh no, we could NEVER trade <this guy>". BS I say. Everyone's tradeable, just a matter of price.
 
As always, supporters know more about list management and recruiting than the clubs.

You never trade a Kreuzer who didn't want to move.

Go to the Richmond board and tell them they should have traded Cotchin for Naitanui last year because they needed a ruck. Using this magical theory, they'd be right to do this because they'd still have Martin, Deledio, Conca and Foley. Derp.
De Iulio2Wiggins said:
Lucas and McCarthy for Talia and Jacobs ... I want the former pair to come good and there's still time, but geez we look like wallies right now #hindsight
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Adelaide were chasing Lucas or Moore in 2009.
 
TheGeneral said:
You never trade a Kreuzer who didn't want to move.

Go to the Richmond board and tell them they should have traded Cotchin for Naitanui last year because they needed a ruck. Using this magical theory, they'd be right to do this because they'd still have Martin, Deledio, Conca and Foley. Derp.
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Sure you do, if you have 3 AFL-ready rucks to fill in. You can never have too many goal-kicking midfielders. You can have too many rucks.
 
Faz 2000 said:
Sure, ideally. But Jacobs' emergence made trading Kreuzer a legitimate option.
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I don't think so at all. Up until his knee injury, Kreuzer had been the most impressive youngster I've seen at the Blues in over 15 years. I've always had a Big Nick feeling about him and still have hopes. So this is very much a "right now" idea, where Sauce has had a great season and Kreuz has struggled. There's every chance that in 5 years time it could look like a really stupid idea.

I don't disagree with the idea of moving on the other two and assuring Sauce that the gig was his, Hammer in particular was at one point drawing more in terms of offers apparently than either Sauce or Warnock, problem being that we've more often than not had 2-3 ruckman on our injury list.

One thing that stuck out was Jacobs being McLeaned when it came to games at Subi. Ratten just didn't seem to back him in as a player. Maybe all that was needed was to cash in on Hammer and show Sauce a bit of faith that he'd be first ruck ahead of Warnock irrespective of which ground we were playing on.
 
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