Scott meets with umps

[gokangas]

Given the onfield conversation quoted by Scottywiper, where the umpire told Hamish he'd been holding Cox all day and that's why he was being penalised, the problem is the umpires were not adjudicating impartially, but had a bias created by emotional investment. They were awarding free kicks to the high profile player. It's the same reason that Judd and Ablett are given more time to break tackles. The umpires are star struck. They assume that the best players would never infringe against a lesser player, so in a 50/50 decision, they side with the big name. It's a safe bet. Dean Cox was totally playing up to this bias, the way that he initiated contact, didn't bother going for the ball, just looked to the umpire for a decision. The free kick he was given late in the game against Spud was a good example. Technically, Spud had an arm around him, the umpires will argue that it was a genuine free kick. However, Cox had no desire to go for the mark, he just wanted the free kick. If Lindsay Thomas did that, we'd be furious - late in the game, result still in the balance, chance to kick the winning goal and he doesn't make the ball his priority when opposed to a player 6 inches shorter than himself. It was weak and he was very lucky to get away with it.

The thing that frustrates me the most is what is not paid. I am sure every free paid there was at some stage an arm that crossed the shoulders. So it is easy to say that was a free. It is the ones similar that aren't paid that frustrate me. You complain, the umps dept look at them and say that they are technically correct. Consistency is the problem.

 

[GeordieRoo]

Can't help but feel vindicated by this.

The umpiring was so farcical the operations manager of the league sought out our coach, and directed the umpires boss to speak to him.

Now they've admitted all 5 frees agaisnt Hamish were wrong. That's some advantage isn't it - 5 uncontested clearances?

Don't see any Duckers fans around now despite them all wanting to claim it was all good umpiring early in the week.

 

[jacko57]

Can't help but feel vindicated by this.

The umpiring was so farcical the operations manager of the league sought out our coach, and directed the umpires boss to speak to him.

Now they've admitted all 5 frees agaisnt Hamish were wrong. That's some advantage isn't it - 5 uncontested clearances?

Don't see any Duckers fans around now despite them all wanting to claim it was all good umpiring early in the week.

probably because the Duckers fans who were infesting the North board on Sunday/Monday were complete arses.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Every time I see the high paid against LA on the footy channel I cringe still. Yes his arm slips up but he pushes it down again straight away an it looks like there's a good 20cm between the arm and the eagles blokes head, still think that's one where the umps guessed

 

[muttley45]

Brad was just on SEN reporting that Rowan Sawyers had admitted that all 5 ruck infringements against Hamish to Cox were wrong.

The idiots department were going to send someone down to Aegis to confirm for Hamish that his boundary rucking technique is correct.

As Brad said, you don't really get anything out of talking to the umpires but you can educate the players on the correct techniques.

maybe these should be the decisions that are constantly being shown as examples,and not the high contact ones which for the most part "LOOK"
like incorrect tackles and keep getting called as such by everyone,would like to see brad mention this at his next presser,also i recall that i was warned last week that umpire farmer was one eyed eagles fan,sad,but true

 

[mark73]

Given the onfield conversation quoted by Scottywiper, where the umpire told Hamish he'd been holding Cox all day and that's why he was being penalised, the problem is the umpires were not adjudicating impartially, but had a bias created by emotional investment. They were awarding free kicks to the high profile player. It's the same reason that Judd and Ablett are given more time to break tackles. The umpires are star struck. They assume that the best players would never infringe against a lesser player, so in a 50/50 decision, they side with the big name. It's a safe bet. Dean Cox was totally playing up to this bias, the way that he initiated contact, didn't bother going for the ball, just looked to the umpire for a decision. The free kick he was given late in the game against Spud was a good example. Technically, Spud had an arm around him, the umpires will argue that it was a genuine free kick. However, Cox had no desire to go for the mark, he just wanted the free kick. If Lindsay Thomas did that, we'd be furious - late in the game, result still in the balance, chance to kick the winning goal and he doesn't make the ball his priority when opposed to a player 6 inches shorter than himself. It was weak and he was very lucky to get away with it.

The spud one was a disgrace. He actually went to lengths to make sure the high contact wasn't made, but they paid it anyway. If some umpires are getting sucked in by the star factor, then get rid of them. They're there to do a job. It's like the interpretation garbage. Aren't there, or there should be, set guidlines they're supposed to follow, regardless?

 

[Twinkletoes]

I'm sure most people on stalkbook would've seen this doozy doing the rounds yesterday:

 

[giantroo]

I'm sure most people on stalkbook would've seen this doozy doing the rounds yesterday:

Nah I missed it but that is a cracker.

 

[Ryda]

I'm glad they have finally worked out what Cox does in the ruck is wrong. Have been watching him for years and he initiates all the contact and buries his head in and has been getting free kicks for years when in my opinion they should have been going the other way. Maybe now he won't get such an easy ride

 

[Mr Reliable]

Given the onfield conversation quoted by Scottywiper, where the umpire told Hamish he'd been holding Cox all day and that's why he was being penalised, the problem is the umpires were not adjudicating impartially, but had a bias created by emotional investment. They were awarding free kicks to the high profile player. It's the same reason that Judd and Ablett are given more time to break tackles. The umpires are star struck. They assume that the best players would never infringe against a lesser player, so in a 50/50 decision, they side with the big name. It's a safe bet. Dean Cox was totally playing up to this bias, the way that he initiated contact, didn't bother going for the ball, just looked to the umpire for a decision..........

Summed up beautifully, LT.

Earlier this year Jimmy Bartels (another umpire favourite) was hatching the ball for ages and making no attempt to look like he was trying to move it. The umpire eventually paid a free against him and the stunned look on Jimmy's face was priceless.

It was a look of either ''hey, I'm Jimmy Bartels, star player not some schmo that you pay frees against'' OR ''I'll get even with you for that you pathetic dimwit.''

 

[mark73]

Maybe now he won't get such an easy ride

I wouldn't bet on it. North will just be called whingers