Scotty McLaughlin 2020 going forward

[hey shorty]

Good to see, we need NASCAR back too

 

[BomberFan355]

Good to see, we need NASCAR back too

The only reason Foxtel are doing it is because Scott's driving this year. If it was NASCAR he was racing in this year they'd put that back on. Prickes!

 

[Kwality]

The only reason Foxtel are doing it is because Scott's driving this year. If it was NASCAR he was racing in this year they'd put that back on. Prickes!

Its about ratings, no Scotty, not enough viewers ..... Will Power (2014 champ) & Scott Dixon (5 championships) were not enough.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

21st in qualifying in his debut.

http://www.imscdn.com/indycar_media/documents/2020-10-24/indycar-results-quals-official.pdf

 

[hey shorty]

Couldn't get the most out of the tyres, was 9th in practice.

 

[Kwality]

Couldn't get the most out of the tyres, was 9th in practice.

Is it on Fox, I set mine for F1 qualifying due soon.

 

[hey shorty]

Is it on Fox, I set mine for F1 qualifying due soon.

Tomorrow morning, 5.30 I think

 

[Kwality]

Tomorrow morning, 5.30 I think

Indycar qualifying on Fox now ...

 

[BomberFan355]

Will be interesting watching Indycar next year with SM and Jimmy Johnson both racing.

 

[FR0GGY]

Is Indy car seen as more of a pinnacle than NASCAR?
If not, why is he going to Indy car and not NASCAR?

 

[imadodgyumpire]

That's an interesting question.

Without knowing Penske's nascar line up, I presume there's no opportunities within the team.

Historically Indycar has been a higher level, and American racing revolves around the Indy 500, but that doesn't transfer commercially.

 

[FR0GGY]

That's an interesting question.

Without knowing Penske's nascar line up, I presume there's no opportunities within the team.

Historically Indycar has been a higher level, and American racing revolves around the Indy 500, but that doesn't transfer commercially.

Hasn’t Roger just made a spot for Scotty or is he replacing someone?
Can this not be done in nascar?

 

[imadodgyumpire]

I don't know. I wonder if Macos Ambrose's career affect the decision?

If Nascars always ran on road/street tracks, He'd have won a championship. But his background wasn't on ovals and was never as good on them than road courses. So it could be because Indycars race mainly on street/road tracks. But the actual car is going to be something that'll take a while to adjust (if ever) imo.

 

[FR0GGY]

I don't know. I wonder if Macos Ambrose's career affect the decision?

If Nascars always ran on road/street tracks, He'd have won a championship. But his background wasn't on ovals and was never as good on them than road courses. So it could be because Indycars race mainly on street/road tracks. But the actual car is going to be something that'll take a while to adjust (if ever) imo.

Yeah ok I was thinking Indy cars were majority ovals to.

 

[RolandF1]

Is Indy car seen as more of a pinnacle than NASCAR?
If not, why is he going to Indy car and not NASCAR?

Indycar was seen as more pinnacle before Tony George ruined that with his split series in the mid 90s and so NASCAR had it handed to them for a while.

These days... I don't know....

 

[BomberFan355]

I would say NASCAR is much bigger in the states than Indy. I’m sure SM originally wanted to go to NASCAR.

 

[hey shorty]

I would say NASCAR is much bigger in the states than Indy. I’m sure SM originally wanted to go to NASCAR.

If he wanted to go to NASCAR he would've

 

[Spazz Cat]

Klyntonius has listed a bunch of riders, and given them excuses for not succeeding or overstated their record. Corser was deadest on making GP, and got put off in half a season. You don't get put off that easily, and was miles off Cadalora. Took the easy life in WSBK

I did not willingly ignore anybody, otherwise I would've used different wording. The common theme with most of those is that they're Americans. AMA racing was a higher level than WC level from the 60s to early 80s. But there more glory worldwide in the WC. Those Americans didn't dominant the WC by accident. Crosby didn't even win a race in 500.

There's no one with a touring car record of some length that's gone on to succeed in F1. Dario Franchitti became successful in Indycar after racing a couple of years in DTM. But raced lower level open wheelers and tested F1. McLaughlin has raced supercars for 10, and that's all he's done. There's nothing he'd have learnt to draw off. It's a huge disadvantage.

The superbike thing is more to do with the tyres though and a different riding style rather than a weight or power thing.
I reckon most Spanish riders would really struggle in Superbikes.
I'm not sure but did Mark Webber come from open wheelers?
I'm sure I can remember him racing gt cars and lemans cars before f1.

 

[hey shorty]

The superbike thing is more to do with the tyres though and a different riding style rather than a weight or power thing.
I reckon most Spanish riders would really struggle in Superbikes.
I'm not sure but did Mark Webber come from open wheelers?
I'm sure I can remember him racing gt cars and lemans cars before f1.

Formula Ford and F3000 in Europe before signing for Mercedes. Was an F1 Test driver too.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

The superbike thing is more to do with the tyres though and a different riding style rather than a weight or power thing.
I reckon most Spanish riders would really struggle in Superbikes.
I'm not sure but did Mark Webber come from open wheelers?
I'm sure I can remember him racing gt cars and lemans cars before f1.

It more about that superbikes are the touring car equivalent of car racing, and MotoGP being the equivalent of F1. It's the conditioning that's the big deal and screws up riders/drivers.

Quite possibly Spanish riders would struggle in superbikes. But not Marquez and even Lorenzo. Lorenzo would probably win this year's WSBK even with minimal preparation.

Webber di race GT, but he's wasn't that good anyway. It's actually better to look at his team mate at MB, Ricardo Zonta. Superstar in mid range openwheelers, flogged Webber at MB GT, and was comprehensively better than trusted MB soldiers Bernd Schneider and Klaus Ludwig. Turned to s**t in F1 after that

 

[hey shorty]

Webber not that good in GT ?? C'mon Dodge not even you believe that rubbish post.

 

[Kwality]

Webber not that good in GT ?? C'mon Dodge not even you believe that rubbish post.

Its relative is how I took that comment. The comparison of who wins in a one one on one. We are talking about the 'top shelf'.

I'm a big fan of those who do it in all forms of the sport.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

You're in for a nasty surprise if you look at that season.

I was buying Autosport in those days. No parochial Aussie embellishment in the articles or race reports. He was being carried by Schneider, where Zonta actually grow into the team and was in the end, was the one leading the pair of him and Ludwig to pinch the championship.

The career paths of Zonta and Webber since then contribute to my opinions of managing your career is more important than inherent talent, as long as your good enough to be there in the first place.

 

[hey shorty]

Zonta is more famous for being lapped by Schumacher and Hakkinen at Spa.

 

[Klyntonius]

The superbike thing is more to do with the tyres though and a different riding style rather than a weight or power thing.
I reckon most Spanish riders would really struggle in Superbikes.

The superbike thing is just to do with talent. That's it. Moto2 have different tyres and riding style as well but it's currently the preferred path the most talented riders are taking. If they came through superbikes instead then they'd adapt just the same.

Put any of Mir, Rins, Vinales, the Esparagaros, Marquez Jr in WSBK and they're highly likely to be at least front runners if not champion.