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[Joker94]

I think you are right Gardner.
Your 'mate' Bluesin3years should probably be looking at 'discounted' - heavily-rental accomadation of particular players down your way rather than any ridiculous $100k renumeration packages!!!!
Let's keep it real shall we??

 

[north of the river]

mate if you think st pauls pays a 100k over a full season, you are one stupid ********.

dont just think a side who wins footall games automatically equals high priced players.

you obviously dont know the club and the quality of personal down there, so u tell yourself thats what they pay so people like u can justify what your club pays for a third of the return

Gardener is a great name as you toss so much manure, w***er.

Tell us how much your star, stuck up Fremantle recruit cost you???.

Apart from ensuring the double doors are opened to get his big head through, I reckon his mummy would have wanted something special for the 'SUPERMODEL'....biggest soft d*ck going around that kid

 

[stinky wingman]

Matt Mackenzie - St Pauls veteran
Mark Dessent - St Pauls Veteran
Nathan White -
Richard Cooke - Unsure of junior club, been at St Pauls for a while
Chay Ryan - St Pauls Veteran
Daniel O'Reilly
Luke James - Played for St Pauls previously,
Peter Mercoulia - Junior player
Trent McIntyre - Junior player
Steven Sziller - winding down at a club local to him
Jarrod Rafferty - Junior Player
David Dewar - Junior Player
Joseph Krierger - Junior premiership player
Boeh Davies - Junior player
Travis Ridgway - Junior premiership player, captain & leading goalkicker
Andrew Shilton - chose to come to stpauls without financial incentive offered
Michael Rogerson - Been at st pauls for a while
Nigel Daley
Mark Marasco
Timothy Blackwood
Adam McIntyre - Junior premership player, b&f winner
David Wyld - Junior premiership player, b&f winner
Ryan Smith - Junior premiership player
Heath Barnes - Junior player, b&f winner
Tom Dewar - Junior premiership player

If you look at the above list, you will see that there is a large amount of players who have either played juniors at stpauls or have been with st pauls seniors for a long period of time.

People often think that St Pauls spend up to get such a quality side out on the park, but the fact is they have proven that money isn't the only thing that attracts people to the club.....its the people, the culture and the community that it provides that makes it such a great club to be at, hence not a large turnover of the playing list every year.

Yes you get your nomads, your Johnny Macs & Danny Cassetts that roam from club to club squeezing them dry of funds, but thats just the nature of the competition and only clubs that don't have a strong local culture like St Pauls, Cheltenham etc would go for them.

Anyways just worth noting that St Pauls have always pushed local talent whilst still giving some a small (compared to others) financial incentive, so to that tool that thinks St Pauls spend over 100k a year on players, you couldn't be more wrong.

 

[backtoback08]

Matt Mackenzie - St Pauls veteran
Mark Dessent - St Pauls Veteran
Nathan White -
Richard Cooke - Unsure of junior club, been at St Pauls for a while
Chay Ryan - St Pauls Veteran
Daniel O'Reilly
Luke James - Played for St Pauls previously,
Peter Mercoulia - Junior player
Trent McIntyre - Junior player
Steven Sziller - winding down at a club local to him
Jarrod Rafferty - Junior Player
David Dewar - Junior Player
Joseph Krierger - Junior premiership player
Boeh Davies - Junior player
Travis Ridgway - Junior premiership player, captain & leading goalkicker
Andrew Shilton - chose to come to stpauls without financial incentive offered
Michael Rogerson - Been at st pauls for a while
Nigel Daley
Mark Marasco
Timothy Blackwood
Adam McIntyre - Junior premership player, b&f winner
David Wyld - Junior premiership player, b&f winner
Ryan Smith - Junior premiership player
Heath Barnes - Junior player, b&f winner
Tom Dewar - Junior premiership player

If you look at the above list, you will see that there is a large amount of players who have either played juniors at stpauls or have been with st pauls seniors for a long period of time.

People often think that St Pauls spend up to get such a quality side out on the park, but the fact is they have proven that money isn't the only thing that attracts people to the club.....its the people, the culture and the community that it provides that makes it such a great club to be at, hence not a large turnover of the playing list every year.

Yes you get your nomads, your Johnny Macs & Danny Cassetts that roam from club to club squeezing them dry of funds, but thats just the nature of the competition and only clubs that don't have a strong local culture like St Pauls, Cheltenham etc would go for them.

Anyways just worth noting that St Pauls have always pushed local talent whilst still giving some a small (compared to others) financial incentive, so to that tool that thinks St Pauls spend over 100k a year on players, you couldn't be more wrong.

Dont be naive mate,Rafferty,James,Krieger all minimum $500 dont be fooled by the juniors crap, then youve got Shaw,Sziller,McIntyre,Barnes,Dessent all $300 -400 work it out from there
throw in Marasco & prewys $200 drink card, the list goes on & on
Dont get defensive ,you need $ to get a good side

 

[stinky wingman]

Dont be naive mate,Rafferty,James,Krieger all minimum $500 dont be fooled by the juniors crap, then youve got Shaw,Sziller,McIntyre,Barnes,Dessent all $300 -400 work it out from there
throw in Marasco & prewys $200 drink card, the list goes on & on
Dont get defensive ,you need $ to get a good side

but thats the thing, St Pauls don't need money to get a good side because it has always been there stemming from juniors.

they would pay their better players thats not debatable, but im sure they wouldn't always get their market value.

E.g. Someone like mcintyre or dessent wouldn't even contemplate changing to another club if their pay was minimal because they want to play for the club, remuneration is simply an added bonus to playing alongside their mates at a great club.

 

[gardener]

Matt Mackenzie - St Pauls veteran
Mark Dessent - St Pauls Veteran
Nathan White -
Richard Cooke - Unsure of junior club, been at St Pauls for a while st peters. president coached him
Chay Ryan - St Pauls Veteran junior
Daniel O'Reilly
Luke James - Played for St Pauls previously, uncles club legends still involved
Peter Mercoulia - Junior player
Trent McIntyre - Junior player
Steven Sziller - winding down at a club local to him
Jarrod Rafferty - Junior Player
David Dewar - Junior Player
Joseph Krierger - Junior premiership player
Boeh Davies - Junior player
Travis Ridgway - Junior premiership player, captain & leading goalkicker
Andrew Shilton - chose to come to stpauls without financial incentive offered
Michael Rogerson - Been at st pauls for a while junior
Nigel Daley
Mark Marasco coached by president with richard cooke
Timothy Blackwood
Adam McIntyre - Junior premership player, b&f winner
David Wyld - Junior premiership player, b&f winner
Ryan Smith - Junior premiership player
Heath Barnes - Junior player, b&f winner
Tom Dewar - Junior premiership player
Damien shaw - coached under 18;s, father has been president for 10 years
Robert Prew -junior

joe krieger is on no where near that money very doubtful on those other names as well, some of these guys do get paid but like said no where near the offers they could be receiving from a stronger finacial club.

the club has had luck in the fact they have and had a good development of guys for the past 5 years from junior rank.

im not involved with the club i know ppl down there and have watched them on and off for some years, i just commend them for being able to keep all their star juniors around. when most good kids get to senior level they usually leave for big coin..

 

[Blues in 3 yrs.]

mate if you think st pauls pays a 100k over a full season, you are one stupid ********.

dont just think a side who wins footall games automatically equals high priced players.

you obviously dont know the club and the quality of personal down there, so u tell yourself thats what they pay so people like u can justify what your club pays for a third of the return

doodle brain, i never said they pay that much. i was stating that not one player from that list would get 100k alone. there is no way they would have that team with the amount of cassh you claim they put out. they are pulling the wool and wat ever else they have over your eyes if they got you beliving that crap

 

[north of the river]

Gardener
joe krieger is on no where near that money very doubtful on those other names as well, some of these guys do get paid but like said no where near the offers they could be receiving from a stronger finacial club.

the club has had luck in the fact they have and had a good development of guys for the past 5 years from junior rank.

im not involved with the club i know ppl down there and have watched them on and off for some years, i just commend them for being able to keep all their star juniors around. when most good kids get to senior level they usually leave for big coin..[/quote]


BANG! there goes all your credibility All your comments are worthless as you have no idea. How can you comment or defend any players or amounts tabled here when your not involved - fairdinkum. Strange no one from the club is defending the comments, just a gardner that knows some people down there, I think that says alot

 

[stinky wingman]

Gardener
joe krieger is on no where near that money very doubtful on those other names as well, some of these guys do get paid but like said no where near the offers they could be receiving from a stronger finacial club.

the club has had luck in the fact they have and had a good development of guys for the past 5 years from junior rank.

im not involved with the club i know ppl down there and have watched them on and off for some years, i just commend them for being able to keep all their star juniors around. when most good kids get to senior level they usually leave for big coin..

BANG! there goes all your credibility All your comments are worthless as you have no idea. How can you comment or defend any players or amounts tabled here when your not involved - fairdinkum. Strange no one from the club is defending the comments, just a gardner that knows some people down there, I think that says alot










[/quote]

i play for st pauls, and here i am defending these comments. Gardener is close to the mark in what he is saying with regards to how a lot of players are playing at the club for less than what they could get at say a cashed up St Kilda City.

 

[therealthing88]

Matty Harris For B&f

 

[north of the river]

i play for st pauls, and here i am defending these comments. Gardener is spot on in what he is saying.[/quote]

With all respect Stinky that is the biggest load of Sh*t I have read for a long time.

If you are stating that you, as a player at the club are happy that a bloke (Gardner) who has stated he is not involved in the club, is fully aware of the financial payments to players etc etc and you are also supportive of him coming onto a public blog and state them, then I think your club has some serious internal issues.

I doubt this is the case and you are damaging your club, if at all you are actually part of it.

 

[stinky wingman]

i play for st pauls, and here i am defending these comments. Gardener is spot on in what he is saying.

With all respect Stinky that is the biggest load of Sh*t I have read for a long time.

If you are stating that you, as a player at the club are happy that a bloke (Gardner) who has stated he is not involved in the club, is fully aware of the financial payments to players etc etc and you are also supportive of him coming onto a public blog and state them, then I think your club has some serious internal issues.

I doubt this is the case and you are damaging your club, if at all you are actually part of it.[/quote]

I'm not saying Gardner knows about our financial payments but he definately has an general idea as to compared to other clubs.

Im not arguing the exact dollar amounts, im arguing the fact that we don't need to offer large amounts of money to keep our playing list, as most of them want to play with us due to the culture/community.

I just get annoyed when people assume that because St Pauls is a decent team, we automatically have to be paying everyone ridiculous amounts of money because its not true.

And i never said i was happy that Gardner may or may not know about our financial situation. The only ones that truly know exactly how much each player is paid is the coaching staff and the committee, but those close to the club and involved can gain a fair idea for themselves.

Most people involved in the SFL would know what other clubs are approximately paying as a lot of the players/committee etc etc would talk to people, and you know how fast information travels around the football traps.

 

[north of the river]

I'm not saying Gardner knows about our financial payments but he definately has an general idea as to compared to other clubs.

And i never said i was happy that Gardner may or may not know about our financial situation. The only ones that truly know exactly how much each player is paid is the coaching staff and the committee, but those close to the club and involved can gain a fair idea for themselves.


Stinky. I'm not going to clog the system up, but your original post (before you went back and added crap about StK City) stated:

i play for st pauls, and here i am defending these comments. Gardener is spot on in what he is saying.[/quote]

How can you (1) defend what he is saying about your clubs player dealings when he is not part o it (2) agree that everything he has said about your player payments etc are SPOT ON.

You may not have said you were happy with his comments, but by crickey you didn't argue with them

I think you are just back peddling

 

[gardener]

you dumb shit, im not title involved as in not on the board.

i played there for ten years and know every single man that runs that club inside out, i get told every bit of activity and see for myself.

i helped get multiple players on that list down years ago.

dont question my credability u scum bag, this club will be around for many more years as well as its local players, more than we can say for your shit club..
by the way how is that reject artz fitting in down there, probaly working out well with all the rest of the egoistic waners there. the club did not even want hm but houston over ruled, what we do know is your club is spinless and does what its told by a man who interests suit himself not for the future of what was a good club....

 

[superfreak]

Pretty sure mate that north of the river isnt from city.

 

[north of the river]

you dumb shit, im not title involved as in not on the board.

i played there for ten years and know every single man that runs that club inside out, i get told every bit of activity and see for myself.

i helped get multiple players on that list down years ago.

dont question my credability u scum bag, this club will be around for many more years as well as its local players, more than we can say for your shit club..
by the way how is that reject artz fitting in down there, probaly working out well with all the rest of the egoistic waners there. the club did not even want hm but houston over ruled, what we do know is your club is spinless and does what its told by a man who interests suit himself not for the future of what was a good club....

ah, don't you just love it when a poster gets caught out trying to hide their identity to spin their crap..."I'M NOT INVOLVED AT THE CLUB"..then stuffs up and has to deliver the truth "i played there for ten years and know every single man that runs that club inside out, i get told every bit of activity and see for myself". wrapt in all the profantities this side of the yarra.

I hope the guys at St Pauls know who you are - I'm sure they also know that your a bullsh*tter and not trustworthy. But then they probably know this already

what a whacker!

 

[north of the river]

Pretty sure mate that north of the river isnt from city.

and I'm not from your dump of a ground either Super.

 

[superfreak]

Geez mate calm down. I know where your from, was just letting our learned friend know that your not from the Peanut Farm....

By the way its not a dump. Just very sandy at the moment!!

 

[stinky wingman]

see super you try and help a guy out and he turns on you ahha.

i have a fair idea of who would get what, and gardener was just stating that its less than some of you blokes think.

The main point i have been trying to get across to 'North of the river', but he somehow can't keep up with the sense I speak, is that most of the players WANT to play at the club, so their motivation isn't as financially driven like some......enough said.

 

[spiros156]

Matt Mackenzie - St Pauls veteran
Mark Dessent - St Pauls Veteran
Nathan White -
Richard Cooke - Unsure of junior club, been at St Pauls for a while
Chay Ryan - St Pauls Veteran
Daniel O'Reilly
Luke James - Played for St Pauls previously,
Peter Mercoulia - Junior player
Trent McIntyre - Junior player
Steven Sziller - winding down at a club local to him
Jarrod Rafferty - Junior Player
David Dewar - Junior Player
Joseph Krierger - Junior premiership player
Boeh Davies - Junior player
Travis Ridgway - Junior premiership player, captain & leading goalkicker
Andrew Shilton - chose to come to stpauls without financial incentive offered
Michael Rogerson - Been at st pauls for a while
Nigel Daley
Mark Marasco
Timothy Blackwood
Adam McIntyre - Junior premership player, b&f winner
David Wyld - Junior premiership player, b&f winner
Ryan Smith - Junior premiership player
Heath Barnes - Junior player, b&f winner
Tom Dewar - Junior premiership player

If you look at the above list, you will see that there is a large amount of players who have either played juniors at stpauls or have been with st pauls seniors for a long period of time.

People often think that St Pauls spend up to get such a quality side out on the park, but the fact is they have proven that money isn't the only thing that attracts people to the club.....its the people, the culture and the community that it provides that makes it such a great club to be at, hence not a large turnover of the playing list every year.

not too many senior premierships along side names there if such a so called quality side can't win it this year with citys injuries where to for the bulldogs?????surely they cant lose this year they would have to be certs after touching up city at the peanut farm???

 

[gardener]

dont think there is any certs when it comes to finals one slip up and its gone, think st pauls knows all to well about that..

who is injured at the farm i heard only casset, and j mac who has been de registed.

speaking to some guys sat night sounds like the do0gs have alot of injuries as well not a good time of year for that..

might open the door for an inform chelt.....

 

[Jonah Lomu]

dont think there is any certs when it comes to finals one slip up and its gone, think st pauls knows all to well about that..

who is injured at the farm i heard only casset, and j mac who has been de registed.

speaking to some guys sat night sounds like the do0gs have alot of injuries as well not a good time of year for that..

might open the door for an inform chelt.....

Noticed that barnes hasn't been in the best for a while? whats his injury and will he be back for finals

 

[superfreak]

John McNamara has been cleared to play by AFL Victoria.

 

[gardener]

wow that is a big decision.

dont the SFL look like they have been bent over and givin it sideways, so much for their rules of missing 16 games and not allowed to play in the SFL.

would this of happened to the average joe blow, or because this guy is in the paper and has friends in high places were the SFL were threatened by it, either way embarresing for the league to de register someone then let them play 3 weeks later

interesting to hear peoples thoughts on it

 

[Jonah Lomu]

wow that is a big decision.

dont the SFL look like they have been bent over and givin it sideways, so much for their rules of missing 16 games and not allowed to play in the SFL.

would this of happened to the average joe blow, or because this guy is in the paper and has friends in high places were the SFL were threatened by it, either way embarresing for the league to de register someone then let them play 3 weeks later

interesting to hear peoples thoughts on it

it looks like the sfl didn't do the appropriate research before making there decision. It doesn't make them look to good.