Shane Tuck

[Trojan Pies]

I can't believe that there has not been more discussion on our board about getting Shane Tuck - 27yrs old. The guy was leading Richmond's clearnances, hard ball gets and loose ball gets midway through the season until he was inexplicably told to play out the season in the VFL.

I put it to some astute Collingwood supporter to figure out which categories we get smashed in every single week....

If not a ball-winning defensive midfielder, at least he could become our tagger as he has all the right attributes. He may not be quick (niether is Ling btw) but he is tough, in-and-under and uncomprimising in his attack on the ball and man. I recognise that we have a lot of youth coming through but they still have a fair way to go to develop into body types that can compete with the men of Hawthorn, St Kilda and Geelong (I'm speaking of McCarthy, Sidebottom, Wellingham and to a lesser extent Beams).

If we can get him to our club for a reasonable price (say a 3rd or 4th round pick as it is a weak draft) then I reckon we will be getting an elite ball winner who can come in and make an immediate impact. He is the type of player who will inspire all others around him to be tougher and harder at the ball themselves.

For those that believe we can simply nab him if he enters the draft or preseason draft, we can't - he is contracted at Richmond for another year and has openly stated that he is desperate to be traded otherwise he knows he'll be spending the year playing in the VFL.

Thoughts?

 

[Optimax]

How about we upgrade on Obree with players like beams, sidebottom, blair, McArthy

Instead of down grading to a richmond delisted spud in tuck

 

[swiftdog]

How about we upgrade on Obree with players like beams, sidebottom, blair, McArthy

Instead of down grading to a richmond delisted spud in tuck

O'Bree got up around 28ish touches tonight, Beams and Sidebottom were out of their depth. Experienced players win and lose you finals, not kids.

 

[c'wood-pies]

How about we upgrade on Obree with players like beams, sidebottom, blair, McArthy

Instead of down grading to a richmond delisted spud in tuck

not sure if you noticed last night, but we are severely undersized in comparison to a team like geelong. yes the players you listed will mature, but we need someone at clearances to throw some weight around. tuck is 190cm and 90 kgs and he is not yet 28.

if we can give up barely anything, worth getting.

 

[Optimax]

O'Bree got up around 28ish touches tonight, Beams and Sidebottom were out of their depth. Experienced players win and lose you finals, not kids.

Im almost certain Obree will retire this year or be pushed out of the seniors next and im a fan

Laughable to suggest tuck would help at winning finals, he was delisted by richmond, he burns the ball horribly, isnt overly fast and is what 27 now?

Give me 19/20yo beams sidebottm blair who will be better players then tuck could ever be


21yo Mccarthy who will be a better play then clogging our list up with a spud not good enough for richmond

 

[Optimax]

not sure if you noticed last night, but we are severely undersized in comparison to a team like geelong. yes the players you listed will mature, but we need someone at clearances to throw some weight around. tuck is 190cm and 90 kgs and he is not yet 28.

if we can give up barely anything, worth getting.

and then he can keep youngsters out of a position that within 12 months max 24 they will play better then him anyway

Bloke is a spud, dont touch wooden spooners rejects, their is a reason they are just that wooden spooners rejects

 

[stix1211]

in my opinion beams and sidey are gonna be guns.But in 2 to 3 years time.Obrees near at the end of his career.which means this guy would be a good pick up for us atm

 

[c'wood-pies]

Im almost certain Obree will retire this year or be pushed out of the seniors next and im a fan

Laughable to suggest tuck would help at winning finals, he was delisted by richmond, he burns the ball horribly, isnt overly fast and is what 27 now?

Give me 19/20yo beams sidebottm blair who will be better players then tuck could ever be


21yo Mccarthy who will be a better play then clogging our list up with a spud not good enough for richmond

he isnt a spud, he fell out of favour a richmond. huge work ethic at training, massive unit that was one of the best clearance players before he got dropped. I dont want him at the pies to keep a j-mac or someone out, but these kids arent big enough against a geelong or hawthorn and they wont be for a couple of years. they need some protection and tuck would provide that

 

[c'wood-pies]

and then he can keep youngsters out of a position that within 12 months max 24 they will play better then him anyway

Bloke is a spud, dont touch wooden spooners rejects, their is a reason they are just that wooden spooners rejects

he can have a spot on the list vacated by a stanley or a cook that have shown that they cant cut it in the afl. tuck actually can play afl and wins the hardball.

when the game was on the line last night at the start of the 3rd, the cats just kept getting it from the centre and charging forward.

im not saying give up a 1st or 2nd rounder, give up no more than a 3rd or a player or 2 we dont need.

 

[Trojan Pies]

Im almost certain Obree will retire this year or be pushed out of the seniors next and im a fan

Laughable to suggest tuck would help at winning finals, he was delisted by richmond, he burns the ball horribly, isnt overly fast and is what 27 now?

Give me 19/20yo beams sidebottm blair who will be better players then tuck could ever be


21yo Mccarthy who will be a better play then clogging our list up with a spud not good enough for richmond

How old is Leigh Brown? 27 / 28? We drafted him and he's turned out to be a decent addition has he not? He was delisted by North Melbourne was he not?

Don't discount players just because they were delisted (or told that they are not going to play seniors) by another club. We got Clement for steak knives from Freo and he turned out to be just okay, didn't he?

Tuck is no spud - his numbers speak for themselves and IMO he is an upgrade on Shane (who is 30yrs old and slowing quickly). Beams and Steele will be guns, no doubt, and I really like the look of Baby Blair but they are not ready to be the main cogs in our midfield for a tilt at a flag if we genuinely believe we are in that "window of opportunity".

 

[Didak2Dawes]

What about the tuck from hawthorn?

 

[Trojan Pies]

What about the tuck from hawthorn?

Another option worth considering but I reckon the Hawks will ask for more than we would have to pay to get Tuck from Richmond. Good lateral thinking though D2D.

 

[HFF]

Another option worth considering but I reckon the Hawks will ask for more than we would have to pay to get Tuck from Richmond. Good lateral thinking though D2D.

Would prefer the younger Tuck. Perhaps we can orchestrate a 3-way deal that could see the Hawks land Gibson.

We do not need anymore "gap-fillers" i.e. Leroy Brown.

As TRS said in another thread, we are going to be phasing out these types in 2010. It is almost certain.

Nathan Brown/Ben Reid/Cam Wood/Sean Rusling (fingers crossed)/Chris Dawes will be pushing Leroy Brown into the VFL and become the "depth only via injury" player he was recruited to be.

SOB is still very handy IMO, however, in 2010, it looms as the season that becomes the "passing of the torch" so to speak with guys like J-Mac, Beams, Rusty, Wellingham etc. Ditto Ben Johnson and to an extent Tarkyn Lockyer, however I think Tarks is still in our best 22 and a very good player.

Shane Tuck is terrible which is why he was pushed out of Richmond's line-up. Sure, he can win it but he is a clanger king. He would not be in our best 25 and ultimately, if you are wanting to trade for players, you want players that can improve your side or that can play a role in the future.

Tuck is neither.

 

[King Woodie]

Shane Tuck deserves a spot on our list.

He ticks alot of boxes of what we need in a player.

 

[HFF]

Shane Tuck deserves a spot on our list.

He ticks alot of boxes of what we need in a player.

Don't get carried away there Woodie.

Nobody deserves a spot on our list or any list for that matter.

Fact of the matter is, whilst he may tick 'some' boxes, he is still damaged goods.

He would not be in our best 25 just like he cannot get a game in a side that finished 15th.

Simply put, he isn't good enough to play for us.

 

[rand corp]

CV. Shane Tuck:

Can't get a game at Richmond .....

 

[Invigoration]

I'd be much happier to see us chase someone like Luke Ball, then simply fill the spot with another average player in the mould of Tuck.

 

[BEEG]

I can't believe that there has not been more discussion on our board about getting Shane Tuck - 27yrs old. The guy was leading Richmond's clearnances, hard ball gets and loose ball gets midway through the season until he was inexplicably told to play out the season in the VFL.

I put it to some astute Collingwood supporter to figure out which categories we get smashed in every single week....

If not a ball-winning defensive midfielder, at least he could become our tagger as he has all the right attributes. He may not be quick (niether is Ling btw) but he is tough, in-and-under and uncomprimising in his attack on the ball and man. I recognise that we have a lot of youth coming through but they still have a fair way to go to develop into body types that can compete with the men of Hawthorn, St Kilda and Geelong (I'm speaking of McCarthy, Sidebottom, Wellingham and to a lesser extent Beams).

If we can get him to our club for a reasonable price (say a 3rd or 4th round pick as it is a weak draft) then I reckon we will be getting an elite ball winner who can come in and make an immediate impact. He is the type of player who will inspire all others around him to be tougher and harder at the ball themselves.

For those that believe we can simply nab him if he enters the draft or preseason draft, we can't - he is contracted at Richmond for another year and has openly stated that he is desperate to be traded otherwise he knows he'll be spending the year playing in the VFL.

Thoughts?

Most Pie supporters on here think we have enough clearence stars in Obree and Wellingham there has been plenty of negative discussion on this about chasing Tuck

I think it would be a great idea

 

[jerry springer]

Will we win a flag with Shane Tuck in our midfield?

probably not,so no

 

[c'wood-pies]

Will we win a flag with Shane Tuck in our midfield?

probably not,so no

will we win a flag with our starting FF and CHF not kicking a single goal between them in a prelim final?

we havent been able to get first use in games; rd22 vs dogs, qualifying vs saints and prelim vs cats.

we end up with an empty fwd50 with all our players up the ground trying to stem the bleeding, sick of seeing the no.29 scooting away from the centre bounce

 

[Deledio2Conca]

Im almost certain Obree will retire this year or be pushed out of the seniors next and im a fan

Laughable to suggest tuck would help at winning finals, he was delisted by richmond, he burns the ball horribly, isnt overly fast and is what 27 now?

Give me 19/20yo beams sidebottm blair who will be better players then tuck could ever be


21yo Mccarthy who will be a better play then clogging our list up with a spud not good enough for richmond

Tuck hasn't been and won't be delisted.

 

[jerry springer]

will we win a flag with our starting FF and CHF not kicking a single goal between them in a prelim final?

this is about tuck.

 

[c'wood-pies]

this is about tuck.

good observation!

when you cant get your hands on it at the centre bounce you dont give your fwds a hope in hell. we are undersized at the moment, and beams-sidebottom-mccarthy will take time.

swan is our only big bodied mid apart from obree. look at davis, didak, wellingham etc, they arent going to get any bigger. we are crying out for a big body in contested situations to give space to other players.

nothing wrong with topping up a player or 2

 

[Optimax]

Tuck hasn't been and won't be delisted.

yet nathan brown also delisted by richmond said he had, when asked on the footy show

 

[King Woodie]

Don't get carried away there Woodie.

Nobody deserves a spot on our list or any list for that matter.

Fact of the matter is, whilst he may tick 'some' boxes, he is still damaged goods.

He would not be in our best 25 just like he cannot get a game in a side that finished 15th.

Simply put, he isn't good enough to play for us.

Paul Medhurst couldn't get a game at Freo.