Shannon Byrnes

[Moonos21]

Just watched the Granny again and when Shannon Byrnes hit the post from 40 out in the last quarter they gave his career goals/behinds total as 19/38. That is seriously pitiful for any kind of forward! Feel sorry for Blake/Egan who definitely deserved to be Premiership players.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

suspect that byrnes will be fighting more for his spot this year than others.

 

[Moonos21]

Yeah, can't see him being in the Round 1 team. was lucky last year that Varcoe ran out of steam.

 

[Turbo911]

Byrnes is a hack, decision & disposal worst going around. Big Blakey would more handy in thr forward line than byrnes.

 

[forrrestGump]

this thread is redundant

with 20 other players, for how long can those pics get you game

 

[The Casey Cat]

Amazed we selected him for GF. Surely could not play much from here on in unless he improves, which he has been unable to do since his debut 4 or 5 years ago.

 

[Moonos21]

Amazed we selected him for GF. Surely could not play much from here on in unless he improves, which he has been unable to do since his debut 4 or 5 years ago.

Yeah, you're right. I remember when he was elevated off the rookie list and he played one of his first games (maybe his first) against Carlton at PP. We got absolutely pumped, but he was actually one of the shining lights. Unfortunately that was one of his best games and he hasn't improved at all!

 

[CF]

cool it has only been about 2 months since our last Byrnes bagging thread. I think Shannon deserved his place in the GF team last year. But I agree if some of our other small forwards can improve this season he may find it harder to get a game. But nothing is certain at this time of the year either way.

 

[OldStyle2007]

Just watched the Granny again and when Shannon Byrnes hit the post from 40 out in the last quarter they gave his career goals/behinds total as 19/38. That is seriously pitiful for any kind of forward! Feel sorry for Blake/Egan who definitely deserved to be Premiership players.

They are Leigh Tudor type numbers

Considering most of his shots are running into open goal a 33% conversion rate is horrible!!

 

[scottydeewah]

I love this board. 2007 we have one of the most dominant seasons in leage history yet we still want to get one of our own and drag him through the mud, call him shit a hack and whatever else we can.

You are all a bunch of low, ****ing idiots!

 

[scottydeewah]

rewind a year as well and it was C.Ling getting the same treatment...makes me feel ashamed to be a Geelong supporter with this kind of shit. You all sound like bloody Richmond supporters.

 

[SriLankanCat]

Byrnes has excellent potential, just needs to take his time a bit. Perhaps that will come wiht maturity but he is fast running out of time to prove he has it. I reckon someone like Djekkura (spelling?) will overtake Byrnes easily. Djekurra is hard at it and has a stronger body than Byrnes and he is lightning quick with much better skills.

 

[scottydeewah]

We have all acknowledged in numerous threads that he is in a group of players that are fighting to keep their spot in the team. But as usual we get these toolkits who all joined late last season starting the same thread over and over so they can bag the crap out of a Geelong PREMIERSHIP Player. A player who has done more for the GFC than any of these ****ing toolkits.

Even more annoying is there is nothing new, insightful or constructive about this thread. People are quiet willing to throw "hack", "horrible", "pitiful", "amazing he was picked" around but offer NOTHING in the way of viable alternatives. Saying "Blake would have been better" shows a complete lack of understanding on how football is played and further more seeing we are talking about goal kicking is just absurd.

It is this simple. We have the NAB cup to trial players, develop our youngsters and try out tactics. If this werent the case and we went straight to round 1 without practice games, I would expect that GF team (- Nathan,King + Hawkings,Blake) to start round 1. Why? Because that team demolished the second best team int he league by 119 pts.

I am also sick of this "deserved" tag we place on players. How do you measure such a thing? On hours trained, sacrifices in personal life? To say one player deserves it more because they are a better player and put up bigger numbers is stupid.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

I love this board. 2007 we have one of the most dominant seasons in leage history yet we still want to get one of our own and drag him through the mud, call him shit a hack and whatever else we can.

You are all a bunch of low, ****ing idiots!

There's always room for improvement. Byrnes has a place in the 22 provided he's the best option. Right now you'll find most of us think that he's not the best option. You don't really have the right to call anyone names based on what is generally regarded as common knowledge.

 

[The rabbi]

Byrnes gets plenty of the ball and I believe that he does not lack courage. His big problem is he can only turn to his left foot. I think this is part of his decision problem. I am also not surprised that he has a poor scoring percentage with his kicking technique.

 

[scottydeewah]

There's always room for improvement. Byrnes has a place in the 22 provided he's the best option. Right now you'll find most of us think that he's not the best option. You don't really have the right to call anyone names based on what is generally regarded as common knowledge.

- My problem if you care to read all my posts is how people communicate this "common knowledge", the lack of viable solutions they give and the need to repeat it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

It is all common knowledge and we are all aware of it because WE HAVE DONE THIS THREAD TO BLOODY DEATH.

And as far as people calling others name. Brynes is not a hack, horrible or pitiful. He has two deficiencies in his game. No opposite foot and a trouble kicking when he is at full pace. A lot of younger players with great speed have these, Monica did and he matured, practiced, worked hard and improved his kicking. He still does the occasional odd, torpedo looking mongrel punt but it is more infrequent as he gets older.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

- My problem if you care to read all my posts is how people communicate this "common knowledge", the lack of viable solutions they give and the need to repeat it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

It is all common knowledge and we are all aware of it because WE HAVE DONE THIS THREAD TO BLOODY DEATH.

And as far as people calling others name. Brynes is not a hack, horrible or pitiful. He has two deficiencies in his game. No opposite foot and a trouble kicking when he is at full pace. A lot of younger players with great speed have these, Monica did and he matured, practiced, worked hard and improved his kicking. He still does the occasional odd, torpedo looking mongrel punt but it is more infrequent as he gets older.

I agree with you on calling Byrnes a hack, because its not like any of us are in a position to be able to outplay him. However you left out the most important shortcoming of byrnes - despite his speed, byrnes also has a nasty habit of getting caught holding the ball. His decision making is very poor at times. As for viable solutions, we have several young fast running types on the list who I believe should be given a run in 2008. Problem solved!

 

[scottydeewah]

As for viable solutions, we have several young fast running types on the list who I believe should be given a run in 2008.

- 2008 I am sure they will, but for the GF it was the correct call.

 

[Sttew]

Amazed we selected him for GF. Surely could not play much from here on in unless he improves, which he has been unable to do since his debut 4 or 5 years ago.

Had to be his leg speed, nothing else

 

[re cat]

Some of you are amazing, we have just won a flag and you have the knives out. Who will be next? One thing is for certain Shannon has a premiership medal that none of you experts can take off him.

 

[Rosso]

Had to be his leg speed, nothing else

Wrong. Varcoe was struggling to have an influence on games towards the end of the year and Burnes stepped up.

He played a reasonable game against the Lions and then played well against the Kangas (gave Arch a bit of a run around). His game against the Pies was OK but he played well enough to retain his spot.

Add this to the fact the Trav was just a player in the VFL Finals (meaning that he didn't really stand out) so the only other small forward available would've been the untried Djerrkura who was coming off a 4 or 5 week injury. Byrnes did his bit in the GF and let's face it, if he had've ran a bit faster in the last quarter (and not bounced the ball at the wrong second) on the boundary line he could've kicked on of the best goals in GF history after his evasion of 2 opponents.

Stokes was probably in the same boat last preseason where his position wa up for grabs but he stepped up and was a big part of us getting to the GF.

Premiership player. Scottydeewah hit it on the head. Respect the man til you do better!!

 

[scottydeewah]

I cant believe you can watch the GF where we beat the second best team in the league by 119pts and have ANYTHING to complain about. I have watched it few times and love every minute. I even love the bit were Monty traps himself in the forward pocket, dances out then traps himself again. GENIUS!

 

[Big Nasty]

Sitting back and watching the GF I sat thier telling myself we have the ultimate side, and then Shannon Byrnes would get the ball and it kind of ruined that notion. It just stood out how really bad he is compared to the rest of the group.

 

[Gogeelong]

WHy bag this guy. He played in most games during last year, he played in the grand final.
He was played for team balance. Who can offer the same pace next year? Varcoe will not run out the game so who do you suggest? Plenty of Prismall types in the team
He needs more game time so that he can improve his poise. He tends to rush too much

 

[Catman]

Byrnes has excellent potential, just needs to take his time a bit. Perhaps that will come wiht maturity but he is fast running out of time to prove he has it. I reckon someone like Djekkura (spelling?) will overtake Byrnes easily. Djekurra is hard at it and has a stronger body than Byrnes and he is lightning quick with much better skills.

Potential? If he does shouldn't he have realised it now - after 5 years at the club. Has he already realised it and that the reality is that he doesn't quite have what it takes to make it at AFL level?

I'm tipping the latter.

I've seen all three finals many times but what stood out was Byrnes being the weak link - in his decision making, his disposal, which is substandard and it was evident in all three finals and his poise and awareness, which are not up to scratch either. He was the clear weak link but the fact we were so dominant and even across the board allowed him to be carried by the rest of the group without consequence.

But he's got a premiership medallion because he was in the right spot at the right time so good luck to him.