Should Fev play Thursday night?

[BlueWorld]

Yes, he should play. If you suspend him, you will hurt the team more than Fevola. Richmond will have a sniff if he's not playing, and they are a greater chance of beating us. And with Fisher out, who will be our focal point up forward? Who will straighten us up? Hartlett?

Fine him and drop him out of the leadership group, and make him apologise to the pub owner. If you drop him, it will only hurt our chances of having a good start. Ratten will want to prove the naysayers wrong and winning is the top priority... as a team we would want to grow in confidence. Because if we lose to the Tigers, there will be no confidence - playing St.Kilda next round will be a lot harder.

But if it was Russell or Bannister you'd suspend them because we can afford to go without them. But we must have fev and let him get away with it, as he has his entire career and let him keep doing it over & over because he knows we can't afford to suspend him.

 

[RiCHii]

Sooner or later someone with authority at the Carlton Football Club has to decide wether or not all the players representing our team are serious about being successfull. Pissing in a public place at 4am 5 days before the start of the season is not acceptable. What do I tell my youngest son if Fev. doesn't run out on Thurs. night? The leadership group , coach,Sticks and Mr Pratt have an opportunity to twist Fev's testicles if they choose too and show all the young guys at the club that his behaviour is unacceptable.
Dropping him for the Richmond match may not be the right option but I bet a $50,000 fine would make him think twice about where he drains his weapon and what time he chases pussy!

agree with you. If they give him a fine I believe it has to be around the amount you have mention 50,000, FFS who the hell pisses in a public place infront of anyone surely he could of atleast gone behind a tree!

 

[BlueWorld]

Suspending him would be like a suspension from school, what does he get out of it? he doesnt play football for one week? Probably wont be much of a big deal for him.
But suspending him will affect the team more than it will affect Fevola himself. I say give him a fine and a big one at that, make him pay big money so it can make him think twice next time he commits something like this, because the money will be coming out of his hardearned.

We suspended him for a week last year. It obviously really affected him. He's on big money and gets more from TFS. I doubt that will affect him either.

 

[RiCHii]

We suspended him for a week last year. It obviously really affected him. He's on big money and gets more from TFS. I doubt that will affect him either.

obviously didnt read the post, cant read? i'm not sure, but i said WE SHOULD'NT SUSPEND HIM, i repeat SHOULD'NT suspend him. Instead give him a massive fine.

 

[Thrawn]

But if it was Russell or Bannister you'd suspend them because we can afford to go without them. But we must have fev and let him get away with it, as he has his entire career and let him keep doing it over & over because he knows we can't afford to suspend him.

And that's the sad truth, really. Unless another forward steps up and outperforms him.

 

[AlecDuncan]

agree with you. If they give him a fine I believe it has to be around the amount you have mention 50,000, FFS who the hell pisses in a public place infront of anyone surely he could of atleast gone behind a tree!

The most a club can fine a player is $5000. That would still hurt.

 

[BlueWorld]

The most a club can fine a player is $5000. That would still hurt.

That would be about half his weekly wage. The equivalent of about $500 to the average person.

 

[BlueWorld]

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/fevola-facing-suspension/2008/03/17/1205602294193.html

A club source told The Age last night that penalising Fevola by banning him from doing what he loves most — playing football — might be the only way to get the message through to the forward, whose catalogue of off-field misdemeanours continues to grow.

Issuing a suspension to a match-winning player before the club's much-anticipated season opener against Richmond on Thursday night would set an example to the Blues' young list, the source said.

 

[Spartan]

I've got some points that have already been raised.

Lets for a brief minute ignore the the fact that he pissed on a window. He was out till 4am days before the start of the season and was smashed off his face. One would assume that this would in some way break the team rules.

No one player is greater than the club. You're right Thrawn, suspending him will hurt the club more than it hurts him and knowing Fevola being suspended won't really bother him too much in the grand scheme of things.

However this is setting a precedance. If tomorrow Judd does the same thing should he be suspended? What about Waite? Carrazzo? Kreuzner? How about a rookie nobody? Does a person's importance to the team determine the level of punishment they should receive? As for Gibbs and Murphy, you're right they're not kids. They understand that Fevola won't be suspended because he's important to the team. There lies the problem, the message being sent is that if you're important enough the penalty will not be as heavy.

Carlton will not suspend Fevola. However they should.

 

[BlueWorld]

obviously didnt read the post, cant read? i'm not sure, but i said WE SHOULD'NT SUSPEND HIM, i repeat SHOULD'NT suspend him. Instead give him a massive fine.

Point is what difference does it make- you can suspend him, fine him, he is simply a dropkick. I wouldn't be surprised if he plays elsewhere next year because there are only so may times you can keep doing things like that.

 

[Barry Zuckercorn]

Course he should play and course he will.

 

[Silvagnis]

Point is what difference does it make- you can suspend him, fine him, he is simply a dropkick. I wouldn't be surprised if he plays elsewhere next year because there are only so may times you can keep doing things like that.

If Fev keeps stuffing up, we should definitely trade him.

We'll still get two first round picks or one quality early pick and a player for Fev when the likes of Johnstone and Wood were traded for a first round pick. Coaches are arrogant enough to think they can change a player, whilst clubs are still willing to pay with good picks for dropkicks like Fevola. The likes of Hudson, Tarrant, Gehrig, Hall, Gardiner, Akermanis, Welsh and Everitt all found new homes in the past two years. Fevola is a better matchwinner than all of those players and could play well into his thirties like Gehrig, Lynch and Richo.

 

[WeninRome]

the thing is judd left west coast because of idiotic acts such as these.

He will not take very kindly on fev and neither will stevens.

I say trade him at the end of the season we don't need bad influences like him at the club.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Fevola shouldn't play on Thursday.

But I'd like him to play

 

[Magnificence]

I guess it depends on what the clubs policy is for being out that late coming up to a game. If they have a curfew and he broke it then he should be made an example of.

Our club needs the 4 points more than it needs to make some pathetic stance. For me Fev will be the difference between a win and a loss so I say :

- Play Fev
- Fine $10,000
- Suspend him from the leadership group

 

[Magnificence]

I've got some points that have already been raised.

Lets for a brief minute ignore the the fact that he pissed on a window. He was out till 4am days before the start of the season and was smashed off his face. One would assume that this would in some way break the team rules.

No one player is greater than the club. You're right Thrawn, suspending him will hurt the club more than it hurts him and knowing Fevola being suspended won't really bother him too much in the grand scheme of things.

However this is setting a precedance. If tomorrow Judd does the same thing should he be suspended? What about Waite? Carrazzo? Kreuzner? How about a rookie nobody? Does a person's importance to the team determine the level of punishment they should receive? As for Gibbs and Murphy, you're right they're not kids. They understand that Fevola won't be suspended because he's important to the team. There lies the problem, the message being sent is that if you're important enough the penalty will not be as heavy.

Carlton will not suspend Fevola. However they should.

Personally I agree with Mick Malthouse on these issues... different rules for different players and we need Fev to snag 8 on Thursday nite so let the big guy play

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

The points you guys make are all valid, but rather then thinking about Round 1, you should be thinking of the next 5- 10 years. Chris Judd has come to Carlton for a new start, he wanted to get away from behaviour issues in the West, he was made Captain, and this happens on the eve of the season.

Why do I get the feeling that Fev's absence for at least a week is more your concern than Carlton's next 5-10 years.

It's not like it's his first offence - I reckon they will drop him for either 1 or 2 games - anything less will be a major sign of weakness and all of Chris Judd's morals would be worthless.

A poster on BigFooty can't taunt the Blues into suspending him by declaring it weak if they don't.

Then we all know, it was always about the coin for Juddy, not a fresh start.

Finally we get to the heart of it. He has changed clubs once yet it is always about the coin is it? Pull down your skirt because your agenda is showing.

Sometimes you need to take 1 step back to go 3 steps forward, intersting to see which step they take?

It's not interesting to see. You couldn't care less so long as we lose, or more specifically the Tigers win on Thursday.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

All of this talk about making a stand etc. why bugger me if we haven't made a similar stand before with Fev and did that stand work? So what, are we going to throw away the chance at winning 1-2 games to send a message to Fev and more importantly to the youngsters in the team? These players have just got some hope, have been working on a gameplan, practicing with Fev at full forward, and now we are going to change the whole plan around in a couple of days, and go into round 1 with a couple of days preparation.

Fev needs to be hit but we are hitting the rest of the team too and they really don't deserve any more pain. Let the players decide what happens, not the club.

Dick, what is Fev on? 500k per year or thereabouts? Pay someone 50k to follow the ******** around during the season every time he goes out, then take it out of his next contract.

 

[Thrawn]

However this is setting a precedance.

Is it?

That would only be if he were not to be punished at all. Do you think it will cause the other players, especially the key ones, to be more lax?

If tomorrow Judd does the same thing should he be suspended? What about Waite? Carrazzo? Kreuzner? How about a rookie nobody?

No, no, no, yes, yes.

This hypothetical is assuming these players may be a dumb as Fevola.

Does a person's importance to the team determine the level of punishment they should receive?

Most definitely, as winning will (and should) always be a priority.

As for Gibbs and Murphy, you're right they're not kids. They understand that Fevola won't be suspended because he's important to the team. There lies the problem, the message being sent is that if you're important enough the penalty will not be as heavy.

It's more than that though... the message will be well clear if the club and everyone in it condemns it. Suspension isn't the only way to punish players, and it certainly isn't the worst punishment either.

Carlton will not suspend Fevola. However they should.

There are more ways to skin a cat (or a blue), as the saying goes.

 

[Jurica Stockade]

Suspending him would be like a suspension from school, what does he get out of it? he doesnt play football for one week? Probably wont be much of a big deal for him.
But suspending him will affect the team more than it will affect Fevola himself. I say give him a fine and a big one at that, make him pay big money so it can make him think twice next time he commits something like this, because the money will be coming out of his hardearned.

If he gets suspended for this and lets the team down, I think he will be on the outer with a lot of the players at your club. This might be the wake up call he needs as a player, there is no doubt he thrives on being the larrikin around the place and the peoples person.

I just feel that if the side suffers because of his actions, he wont be that player they all look up to. This, I think will affect a person like Fev, and therefore might make him pull his head in.
Hopefully he can work through this, as he is a great player but has let himself down with his poor offield antics.

 

[Pamam]

if Fisher was playing i would say we can do without him

but since we are lacking a key forward that can kick us a bag, we really do need him this week

but honestly should get the ass for 2 weeks and must play in the bullants at full back!!!

 

[lethalleigh]

Suspend him for 4 weeks.

You might think it is harsh but look at the line Geelong took early last year and how much trouble did they have after that.

Yes we might lose a game or two because of it but we are all here for the long haul. So many talented kids and they need to see a strong dedicated leadership at Carlton.

For all his ability he will waste his talent like so many before. What kind of idiot in a professional game being paid huge salaries decides to do this the week leading into the first game of a new season!!! I would rather see us play without him than show a weak stance and let him play because we need him.

Far too many times he has gone down this path. Maybe a swift kick up ass might finally send a message but somehow I doubt it.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Suspend him for 4 weeks.

You might think it is harsh but look at the line Geelong took early last year and how much trouble did they have after that.

Yes we might lose a game or two because of it but we are all here for the long haul. So many talented kids and they need to see a strong dedicated leadership at Carlton.

For all his ability he will waste his talent like so many before. What kind of idiot in a professional game being paid huge salaries decides to do this the week leading into the first game of a new season!!! I would rather see us play without him than show a weak stance and let him play because we need him.

Far too many times he has gone down this path. Maybe a swift kick up ass might finally send a message but somehow I doubt it.

yeah but ...

Geelong > Carlton

 

[Big Bad Sammus]

I say suspend him for 4 matches with a fine.

I saw Fev and Alex at Crown Casino that night at about 5-5.15am in the poker room. He was there with a friend also. Alex looked like she had a pretty big night. Then I saw some guy (short with glasses) say "Hey Brendan", walked over to him and said a few words then shook his hand, the little dude was trying to say something to him but Fev just walked off and tried not to aknowledge the fan anymore right in the middle of conversation.

Anyway this is just poor form from the guy, he is 27 and should know what to do and what not to do!

He has had too many chances.

 

[lethalleigh]

Doesnt matter Geelong or Carlton.

After years of being at the bottom we finally had enough talent to rise again. In doing this you need not only a talented bunch of footballers but a dedicated group as well.
If someone wants to act like a clown send them to the circus!!!

Tiger Woods, Federer, ETC. Do you ever hear anything about them being idiots? No because to become elite you have to be focussed. Not focussed at 4am on whether you can wee straight.

I can understand Carlton people wanting him to play, we all want to win but if you let him play I think even if we win and he kicks 8 goals Thursday night in the end we really lose. 4 points or a clear message to all and there is also no reason we cant win without him anyway.