Mills, Hooper, Parish, Keays, Mathieson, Weitering, Balic, Tucker, Schache, Curnow, Bonner
Something like that is not terrible.
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Mills, Hooper, Parish, Keays, Mathieson, Weitering, Balic, Tucker, Schache, Curnow, Bonner
Something like that is not terrible.
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Apparently Francis gets a lot of football for a defender Callum Twomey said he could see him being pushed into the midfield by any team that picks him
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Bonner had 25 disposals, 6 marks, 8 clearances, 2 x I50, 5 x R50 and kicked 2 goals in a BOG game for West reserves.
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Which McKay twin do you favour skip? And which one would you say has the better 'big man' attributes if you can split them
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Thanks, which means what?
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Yeah look I'm not a massive DTer so wouldn't be great at foreseeing. Supercooach sure, but not DT. No idea how a fantasy game can reward blokes who possess the ball through cheap short uncontested marks but not those who possess the ball by winning the hard ball instead.
Assuming the keeper league has positions and as such, forwards/backs have their own value market too, I'd probably go - factoring in risk/upside/position/scoring conduciveness. Also assuming you mandate KPPs to be played at chf/ff/chb/fb, meaning they'll have value too
1. Parish - has a stat conducive game. Will probably get more of the cheap marks than the inside mids
2. Mathieson - high volume accumulator who'll gain value from year one while scoring good points
3. Hopper - just a monster. will make it, will rack up the ball
4. Mills - see hopper. perhaps more mark points but lower because he'll likely take longer to break in, meaning he won't be an investment who gains immediate value
5. Keays - walks into a side to gain immediate value and is a high volume accumulator
6. Balic - might be more a year two type but reckon he'll be the perfect dream team seagull one day. Like MacRae was. Loves cheap marks.
7. Francis - has enough tricks to be a long term versatile scorer in any system
8. Weitering - lower because he mightn't be scoring relevant as early, but he's still a gun and low risk
9. Gresham - will likely impact and accumulate cheapies from day one
10. Tucker - might take a little time but has a semi-DT friendly game and likely defender eligible
11. Kennedy - see Hopper but lower level and might take a bit longer
Milera/Clarke/Oliver/Parto/Curnow in that next rung down
KPPs like Schache/Weideman/McKay etc. are gonna take longer to really impact and become DT relevant and if I'm picking someone for a keeper league I'd like them to be relevant from day one and gain trade value...the KPPs don't and even at peak aren't very DT friendly anyway.
Want more from Knight and Foley, lots of prolific tac midfielders aren't draftable, feel they could be that.
Harry. He's more advanced. By virtue of being in the system longer. But what Ben's rise does is, to an extent, prove that Harry could swing back. They've got near identical genes and Ben, despite probably never having done a pre season and having far less development, was able to play to a good standard back. The logic follows that Harry, with a bit of bulk, would be capable of that too given his less developed identical was. I've always seen McKay as someone I think could play back in his career - as my one knock on him is leading patterns inside 50 - not sure he's as much a dominant goalscoring threat. And those types often end up in the athlete not footballer category - which sees them either cut, persisted with as a mediocre forward or swung back, usually to good effect. Feel like it gives more certainty with McKay knowing that if he doesn't learn the IQ stuff and struggles forward, he'll be able to hopefully make it back.
If you have a choice you go with Harry. Ben's a little bigger though which is a snapshot into the capabilities of them with extra size. Still an athletic monster.
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Skippos, read your reply regarding DT keeper league, how would you rate the guys for an SC keeper league. Through trades and an average finish this year I've got picks 3, 6 & 12. I'll probably draft a fwd, def & mid and I'm not too concerned about year one scoring as I have a young squad overall, looking to be really competitive in 2-3 seasons. What are your thoughts on how I should draft. If available I was thinking 3 of Schache, Weitering, Francis, Hopper and Curnow. Would be great to get an informed opinion, a top 12 players would be much appreciated. Lachie Hunter, Sam Gray & Aaron Hall are in the pool but thought some of this draft class may project as better scorers.
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Yeah as I've said awhile back, reckon breaking it down to 'pure kicking' is rough. Just like there's a difference between marks on the lead, pack marks and uncontested marks, different types of excelling with kicking too.
This was the list I gave when asked a few months ago, and it's pretty much the same now, I'd suggest.
Obviously Combe isn't draft relevant anymore and upon reviewing his footage his kicking under pressure wasn't as elite as I thought anyway, had seen him once just nail target after target out of congestion and ran with it. Not really sure there's anyone I'd want to add to that list. In general I'm not really seeing this as the draft of elite ball users.
Yeah now we're in my zone. Supercoach rewards ball winners and users. Contested ball and intercept possessions are very conducive. Taking into account positioning and assumig you mandate KPPs be played at CHB/FB/CHF/FF I'd go like this.
1. Weitering
2. Francis
3. Hopper
4. Mills
5. Mathieson
6. Parish
7. Kennedy
8. Schache
9. Curnow
10. Balic
11. Keays
~gap~
12. Gresham
13. Ah Chee
14. Oliver
15. Bonner
16. Tucker
17. Hibberd
With pick 3 I'd probably go with Francis unless Weitering is there for your defender. Pick 6 I'd consider looking at Hunter - beginning to believe he's the real deal and immediate points are very valuable. Gray/Hall still undecided on. Pick 6 I'd be grabbing the best mid available otherwise, likely an inside mid if we're talking SC. Pick 12 if you want a forward Curnow might be there - failing that Ah Chee perhaps? I'm in a similar boat in a keeper league with similar picks, so have been thinking along these lines for awhile!
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Thanks heaps for the feedback. Knowing how the other guys draft I wouldn't be surprised to see Hunter, Gray & Hall all go in the top 5 picks which would probably leave me with Weitering & Hopper. If not taking established players the other coaches generally follow the draft order so as long as Curnow can slip to 9+ then I'll be able to grab him at 12. Was considering trading some of my picks but definitely leaning to stockpiling some talent. Thanks again for your advice.
Skippos - reckon harry much better suited as KPF in modern game where you push up ground with your oppo in press and then race back to goal ..... He has elite pace and amazing turning agility and can take a high mark but more wo when he has a bit of space
Reckon AFL modern game style really suits him, even more than tac cup game style
Haven't seen Ben play, he sounds good also !!
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Would Brisbane have a great draft if they picked up
1. Schache (wooden Spoon)
13.Keays (Leuey Compo pick used )
19.Hipwood (Redden trade to West Coast Selwood compo pick most likely end of first round used)
23. Collins (2nd round pick)
24. Hibbard (Aish trade pick from Carlton )
1. Schache (wooden Spoon)
13.Keays (Leuey Compo pick used )
19.Hipwood (Redden trade to West Coast Selwood compo pick most likely end of first round used)
23. Collins (2nd round pick)
24. Hibbard (Aish trade pick from Carlton )
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Cheers, not sure if Harry gets through to our 2nd round pick but if he did I'd like to think we'd consider him, not only do we need the height but he could be a nice compliment to the talls we've already got who aren't exactly super athletes even though they're sensational footballers
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I'd be very surprised if that's how it panned out. I'd be very, very surprised if you weren't giving up a top 15 if not top 10 pick for Hipwood, which in turn would lower pick 23 considerably to cover that cost.
I'd also be very surprised if Collins was on the board at 23.
Yeah look think there's virtually no chance of him getting there, unfortunately. I'd say if you get a 7-15 pick for Carlisle you'd jump on a McKay brother though. Think EFC like them, but not certain.
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With BL, GC, Syd and GWS holding academy picks, which do you see going in the national draft and which do you see getting rookied?
Also, out of all of them, who do you see as the first name read out?
With BL, GC, Syd and GWS holding academy picks, which do you see going in the national draft and which do you see getting rookied?
Also, out of all of them, who do you see as the first name read out?
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Yeah too right, that was meant to read Harry or Ben. As you said Harry probably goes higher given his body of work so far this year
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Haven't seen massive amounts of him and when I have he hasn't grabbed my attention. Will try and get some footage and have a look at him though.
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What is your view on Carlton taking Curnow if we have pick three?
If Francis and Curnow are similar tall utilities on paper, then I'd go for the powerful forward/inside mid with Curnow having the same running power as his siblings. A taller Curnow with the same aggression plus first class skill and height makes for an exciting prospect. Would kickstart our midfield and squad if we add another beast to go with Cripps. Another tall running machine like A.Walker or Bell who are aggressive. Not mad on getting smaller types in today's AFL.
Francis sounds like a talent, but we have plenty of half backs with Rice and Silvagni a chance to join Carlton as utilities.
If Francis and Curnow are similar tall utilities on paper, then I'd go for the powerful forward/inside mid with Curnow having the same running power as his siblings. A taller Curnow with the same aggression plus first class skill and height makes for an exciting prospect. Would kickstart our midfield and squad if we add another beast to go with Cripps. Another tall running machine like A.Walker or Bell who are aggressive. Not mad on getting smaller types in today's AFL.
Francis sounds like a talent, but we have plenty of half backs with Rice and Silvagni a chance to join Carlton as utilities.
Skippos- Your thoughts on what happens if the draft goes like this? Who would they draft.
1. Carlton
2. Carlton (Kruzer compo)
3. Brisbane
4. Brisbane (Luey compo)
Interested to see what you think would happen if this happened (very unlikely as it may be)
1. Carlton
2. Carlton (Kruzer compo)
3. Brisbane
4. Brisbane (Luey compo)
Interested to see what you think would happen if this happened (very unlikely as it may be)
Depends on the length of the contract and dollars
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