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[killer]

Ariel ping pong (1930s?)

 

[killer]

If you want something really weird

Sidney J Baker The Australian language 1950/1978
lists the St Kilda football team not as the Saints the Seasiders and Jerusalem

 

[Spiny Norman]

I remember Aussie Rules (Ou-ssie Roouls) being the common term not so much Australian football
Think we've been over this topic

Yeah I was not clear enough in answering - with the question of what was used in the US or UK I was thinking of international terminology, and in a number of Romance languages the term used translates to Australian football, but I should have specified that. There may also be other variants of the name in other languages as well - checking the wikipedia page in other languages and using google translate as necessary would be one way to confirm that. Australian newspapers referring to early tours of the US and Canada also seem to often call it "the Australian game", "the Australian game of football", or occasionally "Australian football", but I haven't read any coverage of those tours in American or Canadian papers, so while anyone who encountered the sport that way may have called it by these names rather than devising a new exonym, I don't actually know what terms they used.

 

[SouthBedfordshireFan]

Any details on the history of AFL international broadcasts?

Which country and when did they get rights and who was the broadcaster?

I know that TNT Sports has had the UK rights for a while

 

[mountain roy]

Any information available on introduction of goal umpires waving flags after goals and behinds are scored?
Wikipedia states northern Tasmanian association introduced it in 1884 but don’t know where they got that from.

 

[35Daicos]

Any information available on introduction of goal umpires waving flags after goals and behinds are scored?
Wikipedia states northern Tasmanian association introduced it in 1884 but don’t know where they got that from.

The AFL website has this: https://www.afl.com.au/about-afl/history/rule-changes

I presume that refers to when the system was introduced into the VFA.












I can't see anything from as early as 1884, but certainly by 1886 that system was being employed in (at least some) Tasmanian football, and it was copied elsewhere.

 

[killer]

 

[35Daicos]

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It looks as if the flags must have just sat there, attached to the goalposts, in the very early days of the game and it wasn't until later that the idea of getting goal umpires to wave them came in:



Why they were used at all at that stage I don't really know!

 

[mountain roy]

Thanks, 35Daicos and Killer. As 35Daicos mentioned, what other use did they have if not for just signaling goals and behinds.
Red flags for goals and white flags for behinds is something new and was unaware of.

 

[killer]

Suppose, if your playing "rolling mob football rules" in the parklands of 1860
you've gotta know which trees are the goals, so you'd hammer a flag in them

 

[35Daicos]

Suppose, if your playing "rolling mob football rules" in the parklands of 1860
you've gotta know which trees are the goals, so you'd hammer a flag in them

Yeah, that's about the only thing that makes sense to me - having something so the players could look downfield and know what they're supposed to be aiming at!

 

[Pistol Night]

Yeah, that's about the only thing that makes sense to me - having something so the players could look downfield and know what they're supposed to be aiming at!

Still better technology then the current score review process

 

[mountain roy]

Suppose, if your playing "rolling mob football rules" in the parklands of 1860
you've gotta know which trees are the goals, so you'd hammer a flag in them

Source ?
Lol

 

[rbartlett]

Flags were on top of the goalposts.
This image from 1883

And this image from 1881

 

[mountain roy]

Thanks for pictures
When were behind posts introduced does anyone know?

 

[SouthBedfordshireFan]

Not sure if this has been asked before:

Any explanations why Aussie rule guernseys are largely sleeveless?

 

[mountain roy]

Note from Rhett's second photo flags also used to mark boundary lines.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

You will find that is a behind post, even though behinds weren't counted as part of a team's score at that time.

 

[SouthBedfordshireFan]

Not sure if this a small question as such but are there any explanations why Aussie rules developed out of Melbourne/Victoria rather than say Adelaide/SA or Sydney/NSW?
Is there anything specific regarding the conditions in Melb/Vic that fostered a unique/distinct code of football to develop.

 

[GreyCrow]

Not sure if this a small question as such but are there any explanations why Aussie rules developed out of Melbourne/Victoria rather than say Adelaide/SA or Sydney/NSW?
Is there anything specific regarding the conditions in Melb/Vic that fostered a unique/distinct code of football to develop.

Quickest answer would be because it was based off an Indigenous game played in the Kulin Nation - which surrounds Melbourne

Kulin nation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Marn Grook - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ie proximity to a game which is considered the forefather of AFL