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We've never had open borders by that argument.
Not at all. We had open borders until 1901 because there were no restrictions on immigration up until that point. It was only in 1901 that the Immigration Restriction Act was passed. At that point border control began, since there was a need to enforce that policy to keep out the Chinese and Pacific Islanders.
 
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Seems to be a feature of liberalism too.
Am I seriously meant to believe that liberal nations have chosen to go with the liberal rights of a select few and that until everyone else starts kicking up a stink about their liberal rights they don't get any?

Explain how this liberalism thing works?
Why is it so consistently in favour of a select few?

Or consider that perhaps things aren't as liberal as you want to believe?
What are you talking about? Liberal nations are really the only nations where rights even exist. Human rights was invented by liberalism and are applied on all. Any failure of a right to be applied to all is a failure on the nation to implement liberalism properly. Not a failure of liberalism.
 
What are you talking about? Liberal nations are really the only nations where rights even exist. Human rights was invented by liberalism and are applied on all. Any failure of a right to be applied to all is a failure on the nation to implement liberalism properly. Not a failure of liberalism.

So if there is a right, thanks liberalism, if there isn't, not the fault of liberalism?
Sounds convenient AF.

Soz indigenous folk, we were gunna get you your rights but instead we decided to not get you your rights and as a bonus us liberalisms get to keep your land.
 
So if there is a right, thanks liberalism, if there isn't, not the fault of liberalism?
Sounds convenient AF.

Soz indigenous folk, we were gunna get you your rights but instead we decided to not get you your rights and as a bonus us liberalisms get to keep your land.
face palm.


rights and liberalism are part of the same thing. If there are no rights then liberalism hasnt been implelemented properly.

china claims its a socialist country. Would you call its significant inequality between rural and urbanites socialism? I wouldnt. They havent implemented socialism properly despite having some features.
 
It's beginning to bite hard now. Before your SME's were laying off staff or doing the "furlough" but in the last fortnight (especially over Easter) your big 4 banks, consultancy firms and retail (even though the latter was hit hard before) are laying off staff. These people being skilled IT and admin workers that now cant get an income, they also have high debt. It is going to get very very messy.
 

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