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So who still wants to delist/trade Stanton?

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Was really happy with his game last night, played with passion and was at the bottom of packs again, first time I have seen that for the whole season. I have been a huge fan of him in the past and last night was what I expect..
 

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ningnangnong said:
I did read this article and was surprised Stanton was mentioned during Buckley's run-down. Personally I think he had one break out season and ever since then we have expected him to just continue to improve but his field kicking has let him down a bit. Don't think he should be traded though he seems a good enough player.
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It's because Buckley knows that ball-carrying, long-kicking players offer a lot more value to a team's score than they get credit for. Stanton's something like 10th in the league for inside 50s, and second at Essendon for score-chain involvements. He has deficiencies, but he cops way more flack than he deserves.
 
lemon chicken said:
Are you 12 years old? Honestly dont know why im even responding. I cant ever recall anything youve ever posted so it must be at the level you operate on at the minute and im about to make certain i never read any of it again. :thumbsu:
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That's because I don't come out and make ridiculous statements at the frequency of yourself. If you're going to try to sound like you know what you're talking about in regards to football then make sure you do know what you're talking about.

Bagging out Dyson and Neagle, saying Hurley is slow, bagging out Stanton (for not giving 100% in the last quarter when he had run himself into the ground and had no opportunity to rest), and being a general bandwagon flog does you no favours. :thumbsu:

I'm not sure if you were at the game or watching on TV but you claimed he was the only one with a so-called 'negative' attitude towards kicking backwards and icing the clock, yet Essendon players have admitted that that's what they were all trying to do and it was clear they were all going backwards in the last quarter. So proved yourself an imbocile there and the general consensus of the thread is that your view is very harsh. Please go away and don't come back.
 
I've not been a bagger of Stanton but i'd be open for a trade if the right trade was put in front of us. He's a reasonably good player but no star.

His deficiencies in pace, disposal and inside game are all things that will be difficult to get a great deal better.

I also think that Prismall is a better version of Stanton.

Good player, delisting him is a rediculous notion but if the right offer was put up for him (minimum top 15 draft pick or a quality young player), we would be silly not to look at it.

I don't understand the fascination people have with not considering a trade for any half decent player under any circumstances, even if the trade might work out a good deal for the clubs premiership chances.
 
TheDon35 said:
I've not been a bagger of Stanton but i'd be open for a trade if the right trade was put in front of us. He's a reasonably good player but no star.

His deficiencies in pace, disposal and inside game are all things that will be difficult to get a great deal better.

I also think that Prismall is a better version of Stanton.
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Stanton may not be the quickest player at the club but his endurance is elite. His disposal has been improving every year and for an outside player, he's really improved his inside game aswell
Good player, delisting him is a rediculous notion but if the right offer was put up for him (minimum top 15 draft pick or a quality young player), we would be silly not to look at it.

I don't understand the fascination people have with not considering a trade for any half decent player under any circumstances, even if the trade might work out a good deal for the clubs premiership chances.
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Unless we are trading for someone better than stanton, this isn't really ideal for the situation we are in at the moment. Essendon are going to be challenging for a premiership around 2011, for this tilt at the premiership we are going to need players in that 24-27 range to really stand up. Unless we draft a Selwood or a Rich who steps up immediately in 2010 we are going to be noticing the lack of depth in that 24-27 area.
 
You dont trade a 22 year old midfielder with that much upside. When he's 24/25 he will be even more valuable to us. You have to be careful about these decisions. They can effect the spirit of the playing group. There's a culture being built up around the club and in this young group. By a young coaching staff. Fans are often too cavalier about such decisions.

His defensive game has improved this year. No question. His tackle count is way up on previous seasons. They are strong effective tackles too. Had a game high 9 tackles last week. And another 4 yesterday. As well as a couple of spoils and chases that didnt get there. He still has plenty of work to do, but the signs are there.

Some people need to watch the whole game and not just the last 5 minutes. Lonergan last week, and now Stanton and Prismall etc, are young players who made a mistake. They're copping way too much grief.
 
danzan22 said:
Stanton may not be the quickest player at the club but his endurance is elite. His disposal has been improving every year and for an outside player, he's really improved his inside game aswell

Yes, I agree, he's got fantastic endurance, is a good reader of the game, is a hard worker and finds plenty of the ball. On the flip side, he gets run away from, has suspect defensive skills and butchers the ball sometimes. Still a pretty bloody good player though.

Unless we are trading for someone better than stanton, this isn't really ideal for the situation we are in at the moment. Essendon are going to be challenging for a premiership around 2011, for this tilt at the premiership we are going to need players in that 24-27 range to really stand up. Unless we draft a Selwood or a Rich who steps up immediately in 2010 we are going to be noticing the lack of depth in that 24-27 area.
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Exactly, if an offer came up for someone who was, in the recruiters view better, or a draft pick that they thought had enough value to secure a player who would be better (speculative I know), then I would be all for trading. If the offer wasn't there then you wouldn't trade.

Just like if Geelong said ok we want Gumbleton, we'll offer you Selwood. Of course you'd look at it. Doesn't neccessarily mean that a deal would be done but it's definately something worth considering.
 

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stantonLEGEND said:
hows my name doing?

....legend
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Name's fine, location needs fixing.;)

As for Stants, although he isn't untradeable by any stretch of the imagination, I question the logic behind trading him for a first round pick. There aren't many kids who could come in and perform at the level Stants does from season one, and given the shape of our list, we need a player of his ability performing at the level he does. I'd consider a trade for a Deledio (+sweetener) type player, but certainly not for a pick below 3.
 
Im not getting into this argument again.
Unless someone offers a sensational deal he should stay. You can not deny he has a good offensive game. Too bad it has been to the detriment of his defensive side.
I will call him elite once he fixes a couple of problems with his game.
 
Daytripper said:
He could hardly walk FFS - He stayed on the ground and played it out though.

As for going sideways in the last 10 minutes - Watson stated after the game they were trying to ice the clock since we had basically no rotations left and everyone was dead tired.

I wonder what game people watch sometimes.
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I could say the same thing. I am not going to kncok him this week becasue he played out the game with a hip flexor injury that made it hard for him to run but i do find it a bit rich you questioning what people watch when you clearly do not see how poor he can be defensively.
 
lemon chicken said:
Im just gonna rain on the love parade in here. His last 10 minutes of the match were putrid. The slack i will give is whether the instruction came from the bench but no other player seemed to be as negative as him so i doubt it a little. It is clear to anyone our skill level is not good enough to ice a game from that far out but he was the only guy out there screaming and pointing arms to the younger guys (Hurley, Pears) to kick sideways rather than attack. Lucky for him Roo missed the goal and everyone slips it to the back of their memory but the number of times he sold his team-mates into trouble with shit handballs and then stood there watching with his hands on his knees while the opposition ran away with the ball left me fuming. This was a pefect example of a Stanton game where the stats dont tell the real story.
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He was injured. started last quater on bench and told to get himself going one more time BY THE COACH just sitting in the backline trying to control tempo of play- F#ck me dead you have no idea go follow someone else!!!
 

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ant555 said:
I could say the same thing. I am not going to kncok him this week becasue he played out the game with a hip flexor injury that made it hard for him to run but i do find it a bit rich you questioning what people watch when you clearly do not see how poor he can be defensively.
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Sometimes its not a matter of how good players are Defencively, If they can hurt the opposition going forward more times than not, the opposition will have to put a negative player on them??
Ross Lyon clearly stated before the game that Stanton had to be watched closely, as he is a "WONDERFUL" player but WTF would he know:confused:
 
Has anyone ever come out and said " I think I was wrong about Stants" ? The supporters who appreciate and know his role can say " Yes he`s not the most defensive of footballers but we know what he brings to the side" You Stanton baggers are incredibly stubborn. Trade him ?!?! I maybe would only because there are not many un-tradeable footballers out there. But it would have to be well weighted in Essendon`s favour.
Another top 3 finish in the b&f will have me laughing my breasticles off.
 
windyhill said:
Has anyone ever come out and said " I think I was wrong about Stants" ? The supporters who appreciate and know his role can say " Yes he`s not the most defensive of footballers but we know what he brings to the side" You Stanton baggers are incredibly stubborn. Trade him ?!?! I maybe would only because there are not many un-tradeable footballers out there. But it would have to be well weighted in Essendon`s favour.
Another top 3 finish in the b&f will have me laughing my breasticles off.
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Is he 24 Yet? Jessus Christ what do people want? We may be just about to play our first finals series in ages and Morons still want to be negative
about a player who is easily in our top 8- 9. I could go on and on.
TRADE HIM FOR DELEDIO OMFG, YEAH LETS GET SOME RICHMOND CULTURE INTO US HEY??
 

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