SOS and Kouta

Fat Red · Jan 18, 2002

Now I know that some of the Carlton posters here can get a bit over-excited. But some of the others seem to want things both ways.

So can I ask everyone to sort this out once and for all.

BrainOfMorbius · Jan 18, 2002

Where's "SOS and Kouta are overrated but Carlton will nevertheless struggle to make the finals without them"?

Loz · Jan 18, 2002

Morbius you dissapoint me.
I shall have to subject you to watching Time and the Rani non stop for 48 hours until you repent
and acknowldge kouta and SOS' greatness.

The Starchild · Jan 18, 2002

My option isn't there.

SOS and Kouta are champions but Carlton can cover them to a degree given our recruiting and still be a powerhouse in 2002. X-factor to go all the way is Mr Kout's ability to return late in the year.

The Hitman · Jan 18, 2002

Carlton will be a V8 running on four cylanders in 2002. Manton as their tall defender, and no Kouta - it's gonna be a struggle.

The Hitman

Dave · Jan 18, 2002

They're over-rated and Carlton will hardly notice the diference. 8th instead of 5th

Nahhh, seriously, they'll be missed.

The Old Dark Navy's · Jan 18, 2002

Originally posted by The Starchild
My option isn't there.

SOS and Kouta are champions but Carlton can cover them to a degree given our recruiting and still be a powerhouse in 2002. X-factor to go all the way is Mr Kout's ability to return late in the year.

I'm leaning a lot closer to this option than those available as well. After all, we are Blues supporters. We're the team that never lets you down!

PiesPremiers · Jan 19, 2002

They'll be missed.
All of a sudden, they're backline looks pretty slim with Manton and Mckay and Simon Beaumont..Carlton will struggle against the stronger and taller forward lines in the competition like Collingwood and Richmonds

tashibatts · Jan 19, 2002

They'll struggle. They were gonna struggle beforehand. Now they'll struggle even more.

Go Roos!

borogirl · Jan 19, 2002

We will struggle, but we will get through! I'll be even more confident of that when we have Braddles signiture! Unfortunately, things aren't looking good!

blues^rock · Jan 19, 2002

SOS and Kouta are champions who will be corely missed...but not that sorely... i'm sure we can make the finals without them...every year you get retirees and injuryies but u just got make do and doi te ebst u can i beleive we can still make teh finals...not easily but no tstruggling too much as the poll suggests

The Hitman · Jan 19, 2002

Originally posted by borogirl
I'll be even more confident of that when we have Braddles signiture! Unfortunately, things aren't looking good!

If you get his signature.

My tip? He'll retire. Bye bye Bluebaggers...

The Hitman

RichmondEmma · Jan 20, 2002

SOS and Kouta are very good players and i don't think Carlton will be ableto make the finals without them

Nic · Jan 21, 2002

Carlton will struggle without them, basically.

Votes are even, 9 each.

Frodo · Jan 21, 2002

Vastly overated and SOS looks a ****ter but still excellent players.

PiesPremiers · Jan 21, 2002

Originally posted by The Hitman

If you get his signature.

My tip? He'll retire. Bye bye Bluebaggers...

The Hitman

Bewww Bewwww *sings to family feud*
He trained today, and the bigfella is ready to go!

The Old Dark Navy's · Jan 22, 2002

Originally posted by The Hitman

If you get his signature.

My tip? He'll retire. Bye bye Bluebaggers...

The Hitman

A shocking case of Carlton envy you have there Hitters.

MarkT · Jan 22, 2002

Both great players. They will be missed but less than some might think IMO. You can possibly throw in Bradley (?). All great's of Carltons modern era and all played significant roles in recent success.

If you look at the season just gone I would say none had a big influence on a consistant basis. They contributed but not to their highest standards. Therefore you cannot measure their loss by looking at their best frorm. In the last couple of years they have either been injured (not Bradley) or out of form at times and the players and game plan have learnt to cover their loss or reduced influence to some extent. You cannot replace club legends and their loss will certainly be felt.

I think Carlton will slide a little. The retirements will be one factor but so will reliance on the thinner top end of the list - ie depth of the really top quality players. I know some Carlton supporters think players like Hulme, Plunket and Murphy can make an impact but they are not in the same league. Porter for McKernan could be a great swap but you have lost a quality ruckman and your No. 1 ruckman has had injuries. McKernan is just unreliable in so many ways.

All in all I think Carlton will slip a little but I think it will only be partly due to the retirements. I would have thought they would slip a little in any case. I think they will take a year or two to bring in some new players, solve the problems with height in the backline and re think the game plan a little.

Pessimistic · Jan 22, 2002

.. And Collingwood will take their place in the eight....

GOALden Hawk · Jan 22, 2002

Both great players, and Carlton must surely struggle to cover them, any side would.

You would have to think McKernan will spend some time playing at CHB next year - he is the extra tall they need down there.

McKay is a great player, Beaumont has improved and Manton can do a job - that's 3 players who can play tall. Obviously the next options are either Prendergast, Livingston or McKernan, none of whom have great experience (in McKernan's case, in defence).

They have a pretty potent forward line of Whitnall, Lappin, Hickmont and maybe Fevola if he pulls his finger out, and the on-ballers are pretty good too.

The x factor is depth of talls - if McKay or Manton was to go down early in the season, I doubt they could make the finals - otherwise 6-10 finish.

The Hitman · Jan 22, 2002

Originally posted by The Old Dark Navy's
A shocking case of Carlton envy you have there Hitters.

Of course I eny a team who we beat twice and finished above...

The Hitman

The Old Dark Navy's · Jan 22, 2002

Originally posted by The Hitman

Of course I eny a team who we beat twice and finished above...

The Hitman

One season does not a history make Hitters. Do you really want to take a walk through Blues v Hawks memory lane with me?

The Hitman · Jan 23, 2002

Originally posted by The Old Dark Navy's
One season does not a history make Hitters. Do you really want to take a walk through Blues v Hawks memory lane with me?

Hitter shrieks loudly and runs to the corner...

No. I'll be good.

The Hitman

The Old Dark Navy's · Jan 23, 2002

Originally posted by The Hitman

Hitter shrieks loudly and runs to the corner...

No. I'll be good.

The Hitman

Ah my rebellious son. The getting of wisdom does not come easily but you have passed your first test.

Bee · Jan 24, 2002

Originally posted by The Hitman

If you get his signature.

My tip? He'll retire. Bye bye Bluebaggers...

The Hitman

Just as well you didn't bet on that!

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