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Can anybody confirm that the two NAB Cup challenge matches scheduled for 2014 are going to be part of the AFL history/statistics relating to night series/pre-season games?
 
The Swans have drafted Aliir Aliir and I wish him the best of luck.

I was wondering have there ever been any other players with the same first name and last name?

The closest I can come up with is the 1980s North Melbourne player (and caretaker Hawthorn coach) Donald McDonald, and the 1920s Richmond player Donald Don.
 
benji2 said:
The Swans have drafted Aliir Aliir and I wish him the best of luck.

I was wondering have there ever been any other players with the same first name and last name?

The closest I can come up with is the 1980s North Melbourne player (and caretaker Hawthorn coach) Donald McDonald, and the 1920s Richmond player Donald Don.
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South Melbourne's William Williams and Geelong's Gerard Fitzgerald are 2 more similarly.
 

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benji2 said:
The Swans have drafted Aliir Aliir and I wish him the best of luck.

I was wondering have there ever been any other players with the same first name and last name?

The closest I can come up with is the 1980s North Melbourne player (and caretaker Hawthorn coach) Donald McDonald, and the 1920s Richmond player Donald Don.
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Saad Saad had a good enough highlight reel:

 
I have recently e-mailed Michael Lovett from the AFL in relation to my NAB Cup question. His response stated, "NAB Challenge games have been classified as practice matches and won't count as official pre-season/night games.”

Also, I think my original question should have read, "Can anybody confirm that the two NAB Cup challenge matches per team scheduled for 2014 are going to be part of the official AFL history relating to night series/pre-season games?"

Obviously there is going to be more than two games over the entire pre-season.
 
JBC_ said:
Has somebody ever won the Brownlow and Norm Smith in the same year?
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No. Three guys came close though (if you take "close" to mean that they won the two medals only a year apart)

Williams (Brownlow 1994, Norm Smith 1995)
Black (Brownlow 2002, Norm Smith 2003)
Judd (Brownlow 2004, Norm Smith 2005)

Since the Norm Smith's only been around since 1979, we're dealing with a relatively small selection.

In the WAFL, however, the Sandover/Simpson Medal double has been performed five times since 1945 (when the Simpson Medal was first awarded for BOG in the GF):

1946: John Loughridge (WP)
1968: Barry Cable (P)
2001: Ryan Turnbull (EP)
2005: Toby McGrath (SF)
2010: Andrew Krakouer (SD)
 
UpForGrabs said:
No. Three guys came close though (if you take "close" to mean that they won the two medals only a year apart)

Williams (Brownlow 1994, Norm Smith 1995)
Black (Brownlow 2002, Norm Smith 2003)
Judd (Brownlow 2004, Norm Smith 2005)

Since the Norm Smith's only been around since 1979, we're dealing with a relatively small selection.

In the WAFL, however, the Sandover/Simpson Medal double has been performed five times since 1945 (when the Simpson Medal was first awarded for BOG in the GF):

1946: John Loughridge (WP)
1968: Barry Cable (P)
2001: Ryan Turnbull (EP)
2005: Toby McGrath (SF)
2010: Andrew Krakouer (SD)
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Buckley came close as well in 2002/2003.
Cousins won the Brownlow in 05 and was one of West Coast's best in the GF
 
A bit of a toughie, but what are the top 10 highest scoring streaks(winning margins), finals included, no pre-season games.

Geelong had 751 in 2007, if that helps.
And bonus ponts :D

Average winning, and losing margins since 2000 for teams.
 

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RobbieGray17 said:
A bit of a toughie, but what are the top 10 highest scoring streaks(winning margins), finals included, no pre-season games.

Geelong had 751 in 2007, if that helps.
And bonus ponts :D

Average winning, and losing margins since 2000 for teams.
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took me a while but Essendon clearly with 1014 pts.
 
RobbieGray17 said:
A bit of a toughie, but what are the top 10 highest scoring streaks(winning margins), finals included, no pre-season games.

Geelong had 751 in 2007, if that helps.
And bonus ponts :D

Average winning, and losing margins since 2000 for teams.
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I appear to have misunderstood this question rather badly, and took it to be 'what is the highest combined winning margin for ten consecutive matches (counting losses as negatives)', and got:

Mgn|Club|Rounds|Record
\721|Ha|2012 R10-2012 R20|9-1
\699|Ge|2008 R13-2008 R22|10-0
\685|Ge|1992 R3-1992 R13|9-1
\674|Ge|1989 R7-1989 R16|9-1
\670|Ha|2012 R11-2012 R21|9-1
\669|Ge|1989 R6-1989 R15|9-1
\659|Ge|2008 R12-2008 R21|10-0
\656|Ge|2008 R10-2008 R19|10-0
\653|Ge|1989 R2-1989 R11|8-2
\646|Co|2011 R10-2011 R20|10-0
\645|Ha|2012 R8-2012 R18|9-1
\639|Ge|2008 R11-2008 R20|10-0
\638|Ge|2011 R17-2011 GF|9-1
\634|Ge|1992 R4-1992 R14|9-1
\631|Ha|2012 R12-2012 R22|9-1
\629|Ha|1986 R19-1987 R3|9-1
\627|Ge|1989 R3-1989 R12|8-2
\622|Ge|2008 R14-2008 QF|10-0
\620|Es|2000 R17-2001 R1|9-1
\619|Ge|1992 R6-1992 R15|9-1
\617|Ha|2012 R7-2012 R17|9-1
\613|Co|2011 R11-2011 R21|10-0
\612|Es|1985 R18-1986 R3|10-0
\611|WC|1991 R4-1991 R13|10-0
\605|Ge|2011 R18-2012 R1|8-2
\605|Ha|2012 R6-2012 R16|9-1
\601|Ha|1987 R8-1987 R16|9-1
\600|Ge|1992 R2-1992 R12|8-2
\598|Br|1999 R15-1999 SF|10-0
As for the other one:

Club|P|W|AWM|L|ALM|D
\Ad|326|178|38.07|148|28.16|0
\Br|325|169|39.33|152|33.41|4
\Ca|319|132|38.24|184|35.91|3
\Co|334|194|38.06|138|31.58|2
\Es|322|165|36.89|153|36.41|4
\Fr|319|149|31.81|169|37.47|1
\Ge|333|217|40.63|113|28.03|3
\GC|66|14|24.07|52|51.42|0
\GWS|44|3|32.67|41|74.27|0
\Ha|328|184|36.94|143|34.24|1
\Me|317|118|31.54|196|42.09|3
\NM|318|156|30.67|159|36.17|3
\PA|326|165|35.36|158|38.51|3
\Ri|312|124|29.64|183|39.58|5
\St|325|161|39.02|158|35.02|6
\Sy|333|189|36.10|139|23.81|5
\WC|325|161|36.13|161|38.32|3
\WB|320|142|34.58|174|36.44|4
 
Now I've got it, wasn't that difficult:

Mgn|Club|Wins|Rounds
\1038|Es|20|2000 R1-2000 R20
\914|Ge|15|2008 R10-2008 PF
\838|Co|20|1928 SF-1929 R18
\830|Br|20|2001 R10-2002 R4
\806|Co|14|2011 R9-2011 R23
\792|Ge|23|1952 R12-1953 R13
\751|Ge|15|2007 R6-2007 R20
\746|St|19|2009 R1-2009 R19
\717|WC|12|1991 R1-1991 R13
\703|Ca|13|2000 R6-2000 R18
 

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Steve Prior said:
Has there ever been a team enter the competition and made the top 4 first year? Or maybe even the granny?
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Each club's first season in the finals and first season in a Grand Final since the foundation of the League​

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* Essendon were premiers and Geelong runners-up in the inaugural season of 1897 but the premiership was decided by a 'round robin' series where the top 4 teams all played each other once with the premiership going to the best performing team - no 'grand final' was necessary.​
** Only 4 teams competed in 1916 with other 5 withdrawing as they felt it not proper to continue the competition due to the war. As a result all played in the finals. Richmond next made the finals in the 9 team competition of 1919.​
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None of the the teams admitted to the competition after 1986 have made the top four nor the Grand Final in their first season.​
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Finals: Top 4 - 1897, 1901-1971
Top 5 - 1972-1990
Top 6 - 1991-3
Top 8 - 1994-2013​
 
Millenium Man said:
Cousins won the Brownlow in 05 and was one of West Coast's best in the GF
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Judd was far and away our best player on GF and there were a number of Swans better than Cousins as well.
I actually think Kerr in 2006 was almost as close as Cousins to getting the two (even though he got neither).
If he wasn't BOG in the GF he was top 3 and only needed votes to go his way in two or so games to draw with Goodes.
 

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