No and no. Two in one team, three in a match are the highest.
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No and no. Two in one team, three in a match are the highest.
\Carey, Bert|15|Fi,Ha|1926-1937|6 & 3
\Cumberland, Vic|176|Me,St|1898-1920|3 & 4
\Daniher, Neale|82|Es|1979-1990|3 & 3
\Jackson, Jim|116|St,Co,Ha|1909-1926|4 & 4
\Kelly, Harvey|92|Sy,Ca,Sy|1902-1914|4 & 3
\McLeod, George|77|St,Es|1897-1913|3 & 6
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Gold Coast are 0-5 against Adelaide and 0-4 against Geelong and Hawthorn.
GWS are 0-4 against Sydney and 0-3 against Adelaide, Essendon and North Melbourne.
Which teams have been 0-5 or worse against an opponent since their inception into the VFL/AFL?
GWS are 0-4 against Sydney and 0-3 against Adelaide, Essendon and North Melbourne.
Which teams have been 0-5 or worse against an opponent since their inception into the VFL/AFL?
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\Br|Ad|0-6|
\Br|Co|0-11|
\Br|Es|0-10|
\Br|WC|0-13-1|0-8
\Ca|Co|0-7|
\Ca|Es|0-14|
\Ca|Ge|0-12|
\Ca|Me|0-5-1|0-3
\Ca|Fi|0-14|
\Fr|PA|0-5|
\Fr|WC|0-9|
\Ge|Un|0-6|
\GC|Ad|0-5|
\Ha|Ca|0-25|
\Ha|Co|0-29|
\Ha|Es|0-8|
\Ha|Ge|0-5|
\Ha|Me|0-9|
\Ha|Ri|0-21|
\NM|Co|0-12|
\NM|Ri|0-18|
\NM|St|0-8|
\PA|NM|0-9|
\PA|St|0-5|
\Ri|Ad|0-5|
\Ri|Ca|0-24|
\St|Ca|0-9|
\St|Co|0-18|
\St|Es|0-20-1|0-14
\St|Ge|0-16|
\St|Me|0-7|
\St|Sy|0-13|
\St|Fi|0-14|
\Sy|Es|0-7|
\Sy|Fr|0-5|
\WB|Co|0-10|
\WB|Es|0-10|
\WB|Ge|0-6|
\WB|Me|0-11-1|0-7
\Un|Co|0-13-1|0-3
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St.Kilda lost their first 48 games from 1897-1900. That was a pretty bad run against every team.
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Matthew Scarlett's first 2 games were both against Essendon. Say in the last 30 years, which players have played against the same team in their first 2 or more games? (If the list is very long, don't worry about it.)
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Another quirk to that is Scarlo was an Essendon fan which begs an even harder question.
Which players debuted against the side they followed as a youngun?
Tim Watson (Richmond) comes to mind.
Think Scarlett played in Round 5 v Carlton in his second game
\Ellard, David|WC|40|Ca|2008-2013
\Hall, Chris|Ha|2|PA|2003
\Selwood, Adam|Ad|187|WC|2003-2013
\Longmuir, Justin|Ge|139|Fr|1999-2007
\Venables, Cameron|Ha|3|Co|1999
\Scarlett, Matthew|Es|284|He|1998-2012
\Harvey, Brent|Ri|362|NM|1996-2013
\Bell, Peter|Ri|286|Fr,NM,Fr|1995-2008
\Moorcroft, Gary|St|98|Es,Me|1995-2003
\Darcy, Luke|St|226|WB|1994-2007
\McKernan, Corey|St|237|NM,Ca,NM|1993-2004
\Minton-Connell, Simon|Co|112|Ca,Sy,Ha,WB|1989-1998
\Baldwin, Jason|NM|127|Fi,Ri|1989-1997
\Antrobus, Tony|WC|28|Es,St|1987-1991
\Stacey, Chris|Sy|4|Fi,Br|1986-1987
\Flintoff, David|St|32|Ha,Me|1983-1991
\Brown, Glen|Me|31|St|1982-1985
\Blees, Michael|WB|14|St|1981-1983
The only players to play their first three games against the same opponent are:
\Sutherland, Neil|Ri|20|Ge|1961-1963
\Neylan, Jim|St|4|Fi,Ca|1906-1910
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=459&SeasonID=1999
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The question was prompted from Scarlett's interview on Open Mike which I watched over the weekend. They talked about him being an Essendon supporter as a kid, Lloyd being his favorite player and then playing his first two games against them:
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/M/Matthew_Scarlett.html
I love weird stats like Neil and Jim playing the same team in their first three games:
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/N/Neil_Sutherland.html
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/J/Jim_Neylan.html
Interestingly, while Jim played his first 3 games (of a career total of 4 games) against St Kilda, they were each at different grounds. Brunswick St, Junction Oval then Princes Park!
Which prompts me to ask another question. Jim Neylan's first 4 games were at different grounds. Can many players better that for different grounds since debut?
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Remembered another one.
Kristian Jaksch (Richmond fan, debuted against them in the Giants' 121 point loss.)
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So that explains the 20 goal thumping!
Haha, that's my fault. Way, way back when I merged the separate (at that time) scores and players stats, there was the problem identifying which stats went with which game. Naive in hindsight, but I just compared goals kicked by players with goals kicked by team score. When two games in the same year had the same goal tally, the process randomly did or didn't assign the wrong stats to the wrong game.
Port and former GWS defender Jack Hombsch holds the record with 10. Tim Mohr played at 9 different grounds, and former West Coast & Richmond defender Brad Gwilliam played at 8 from 8 career games.
36 x 7, including Arthur Cummins 7 from 7 career games in 1897, and Cory Young also 7 from 7
122 x 6, including 8 x 6 from 6 career games
446 x 5, including 26 x 5 from 5
1303 x 4, including 105 x 4 from 4
Here's one that might interest you. Leo Monaghan and Jack O'Sullivan played under four different coaches in their first four games. Monaghan played under a fifth coach in game #6.
Three players had different goal tallies in each of their first seven games.
John Roberts - 3, 2, 7, 0, 1, 6, 4
Mark Richardson - 3, 4, 1, 0, 7, 6, 2
Mark Jackson - 4, 6, 8, 3, 1, 5, 2
John Roberts - 3, 2, 7, 0, 1, 6, 4
Mark Richardson - 3, 4, 1, 0, 7, 6, 2
Mark Jackson - 4, 6, 8, 3, 1, 5, 2
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Well at least that makes it easier to cross-check all-games.
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What makes Jack's first three games special is that they were consecutive rounds, Rounds 3, 4 and 5 in 1926!
Round 3 coach (1926) - Wels Eicke
Round 4 coach (1926) - Stan Thomas
Round 5 coach (1926) - Gerry Donnelly
Many instances of a team having 3 or more coaches in the same season?
One of my favourite crickets stats belongs to Matt Elliott, whose first 5 test innings ascended in scores:
0, 21, 29, 78*, 85.
Anyone know of any players whose careers started out similar, except with goals scored??
0, 21, 29, 78*, 85.
Anyone know of any players whose careers started out similar, except with goals scored??
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Just manually searching ...
Allen Jakovich - 0, 1, 3 then 8 (behinds went 0, 2, 5 then 8)
Fred Fanning - 0, 1 then 2 (in his last 5 games he went 0, 3, 5, 10 then 18)
Peter McKenna - 0, 3 then 5
Mark Jackson - 4, 6 then 8
Going the other way, Keith Warburton started with 7, then kicked 3 then 1 then 0.
Allen Jakovich - 0, 1, 3 then 8 (behinds went 0, 2, 5 then 8)
Fred Fanning - 0, 1 then 2 (in his last 5 games he went 0, 3, 5, 10 then 18)
Peter McKenna - 0, 3 then 5
Mark Jackson - 4, 6 then 8
Going the other way, Keith Warburton started with 7, then kicked 3 then 1 then 0.
Greg Kennedy - 1, 2, 3, 4, 7
Bob Andrews - 4, 3, 2, 1, 0
From any point of career:
Gordon Coventry - 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Stewart Loewe - 0, 1, 3, 4, 6, 9
Justin Koschitzke - 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Harold Robertson - 14, 7, 5, 2, 1, 0
Bill Mohr - 8, 7, 5, 4, 3, 1
Ross Ditchburn - 9, 7, 6, 4, 3, 0
Three coaches:
North Melbourne 1926, 1940
Essendon 1939
Geelong 1940
Carlton 1978
Sydney 1984, 1993
