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Discussion in 'Football Statistics' started by red+black, May 14, 2009.

  1. Procrastinator35

    Procrastinator35 Brownlow Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Other teams:
    Man Utd Green Bay Melb Storm
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,976
    The GoldenBrown Heart of Victoria
    I can always clearly recall the names of Kevin Bartlett, Wayne Richardson, Garry Wilson, Ian Nankervis & Peter Featherby on top of the kicks & disposal tables in the 70's.....Barney, not so much....He was probably more a goal-kicking rover/forward & seldom ventured past the defensive side of the center square....The 77 season was his most prolific in terms of goals & possessions....He was at the peak of his powers that season

    Though you're absolutely right....The umps clearly favored the big fellas who played in the middle in that era, without a shadow of a doubt.
     

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  2. red+black

    red+black Hall of Famer

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    Liverpool, Melbourne Storm
    Jul 12, 2001
    34,935
    Melbourne
    #5752 red+black, Sep 8, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2017
    What are the biggest Week 1 or 2 Finals crowds since the Final 5?

    EDIT: (answered my own question)
    94,690: 5-Richmond v 8-Carlton (EF, 2013)
    90,370: 5-Carlton v 8-Essendon (EF, 2011)
    90,186: 5-Richmond v 8-Nth Melbourne (EF, 2015)
    88,456: 4-Melbourne v 6-St Kilda (SF, 1998)
    88,308: 3-Richmond v 4-Essendon (SF, 1995)
    87,823: 3-Hawthorn v 7-WBulldogs (SF, 2016)
    87,533: 2-Geelong v 3-Hawthorn (QF, 2016)
    85,656: 4-West Coast v 6-Essendon (SF, 1996)
    85,639: 1-Hawthorn v 4-Collingwood (QF, 2012)
    84,284: 5-Collingwood v 5-WBulldogs (EF, 2006)
    84,213: 1-St Kilda v 4-Collingwood (QF, 2009)
    83,323: 4-Richmond v 5-Carlton (SF, 2001)
     
  3. 35Daicos

    35Daicos Premium Gold

    Collingwood
    Other teams:
    Collingwood (VFL), Man Utd.
    Mar 6, 2011
    3,870
    Adelaide
    There's this page in Wikipedia:- https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_Australian_Football_League_minor_premiers

    As of 2016, 64 of the 120 minor premiers have won the VFL/AFL premiership; 42 have finished as runners-up, and 14 have failed to qualify for the Grand Final.

    I don't know of any of the football stats sites that cover this, but (a quick look shows) the Wikipedia figures match what I have and seem to be okay.
     
  4. Expressionist

    Expressionist Draftee

    Richmond
    Aug 27, 2017
    2
    Thanks!

    That's exactly the information I wanted.
     
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  5. kosifantutti

    kosifantutti Club Legend

    St Kilda
    Other teams:
    Tottenham
    Apr 7, 2004
    2,779
    North of Seaford
    Is there a simple way to find the number of games two players have played together? I'm particularly interested in the 21 players who have played the most games with Nick Riewoldt.
     
  6. Ron The Bear

    Ron The Bear Brownlow Medallist

    Richmond
    Jul 4, 2006
    23,440
    Melbourne
    Doubt you'll find a source online, such a specific query is really a job for a database.

    262Montagna, Leigh
    235Milne, Stephen
    233Dal Santo, Nick
    220Hayes, Lenny
    199Fisher, Sam
    179Blake, Jason
    179Goddard, Brendon
    178Gilbert, Sam
    165Koschitzke, Justin
    161Baker, Steven
    154Dempster, Sean
    144Gram, Jason
    138Geary, Jarryn
    136Armitage, David
    135Jones, Clinton
    133Steven, Jack
    131Ball, Luke
    131Harvey, Robert
    127Hudghton, Max
    120Gehrig, Fraser
    114Ray, Farren
    113Voss, Brett
    110Gwilt, James
    110Schneider, Adam
    108Thompson, Andrew
    99Newnes, Jack
     
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  7. Procrastinator35

    Procrastinator35 Brownlow Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Other teams:
    Man Utd Green Bay Melb Storm
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,976
    The GoldenBrown Heart of Victoria
    If we take the last 50 years from 1967 onward as a sample size:

    The Minor Premiers have won the Premiership 21 Times....That's 42%
    The Minor Premiers have lost the Grand Final 19 Times......That's 38%
    The Minor Premiers make the Grand Final 40 Times...........That's 80%
    The Minor Premiers don't make the Grand Final 10 Times...That's 20%

    The second placed side wins the Premiership 17 Times......That's 34%..........38
    The second placed side lose the grand Final 14 Times........That's 28%
    The second placed side make the Grand Final 31 Times.....That's 62%...........71
    The second placed side don't make Grand final 19 Times....That's 38%

    The third placed side have won the Premiership 7 Times....That's 14%..........45
    The third placed side have made the Grand Final 18 Times.That's 36%...........89

    The fourth placed side have won the Premiership 3 Times.....That's 6%........48
    The fourth placed side have made the Grand Final 7 Times...That's 14%......96

    Teams outside the Top 4 have won the Premiership 2 Times....That's 4%.....50
    Teams outside the top 4 have made the grand Final 4 Times....That's 8%....100
     
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  8. kosifantutti

    kosifantutti Club Legend

    St Kilda
    Other teams:
    Tottenham
    Apr 7, 2004
    2,779
    North of Seaford
    Thanks RTB. Looks like I found the simple way.
     
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  9. red+black

    red+black Hall of Famer

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    Liverpool, Melbourne Storm
    Jul 12, 2001
    34,935
    Melbourne
    useful link - https://afltables.com/afl/teams/allteams/seasons.html
     
  10. red+black

    red+black Hall of Famer

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    Liverpool, Melbourne Storm
    Jul 12, 2001
    34,935
    Melbourne
    doesn't exactly answer your question though - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/misc_players.html#15
     
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  11. red+black

    red+black Hall of Famer

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    Liverpool, Melbourne Storm
    Jul 12, 2001
    34,935
    Melbourne
    Most votes a player has got in the Brownlow and Magarey or Sandover in the same year?

    eg. has a player ever got 10 Brownlow medal votes and 10 Magarey medal votes in the same year?
     
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  12. maskmcgee

    maskmcgee Club Legend

    Essendon
    Feb 25, 2017
    1,383
    With all the players retiring this year, who will be the 5 oldest players next season?
     
  13. red+black

    red+black Hall of Famer

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    Liverpool, Melbourne Storm
    Jul 12, 2001
    34,935
    Melbourne
  14. X_box_X

    X_box_X Premium Platinum

    Western Bulldogs
    Other teams:
    Chelsea
    Mar 15, 2001
    18,412
    DogLands
    Was 2016 the first time that only one team had a winning record in finals?
     

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  15. X_box_X

    X_box_X Premium Platinum

    Western Bulldogs
    Other teams:
    Chelsea
    Mar 15, 2001
    18,412
    DogLands
    Quality. Are you able to do a table for Bob Murphy too?
     
  16. X_box_X

    X_box_X Premium Platinum

    Western Bulldogs
    Other teams:
    Chelsea
    Mar 15, 2001
    18,412
    DogLands
    See how close I go to the top 10 for most matches played with Bob Murphy.

    1. M Boyd
    2. D Giansiracusa
    3. D Morris
    4. A Cooney
    5. B Lake
    6. B Johnson
    7. R Griffen
    8. W Minson
    9. D Cross
    10. R Hargrave
     
  17. Ron The Bear

    Ron The Bear Brownlow Medallist

    Richmond
    Jul 4, 2006
    23,440
    Melbourne
    234Giansiracusa, Daniel
    226Boyd, Matthew
    179Cooney, Adam
    179Johnson, Brad
    179Morris, Dale
    169Cross, Daniel
    167Griffen, Ryan
    166Hargrave, Ryan
    164Eagleton, Nathan
    164Gilbee, Lindsay
    160Lake, Brian
    160Minson, Will
    152Picken, Liam
    145Hahn, Mitch
    125West, Scott
    109Higgins, Shaun
    107Dahlhaus, Luke
    107Smith, Rohan H.
    97Darcy, Luke
    96Wood, Easton
    95Roughead, Jordan
    90Robbins, Matthew
     
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  18. Ron The Bear

    Ron The Bear Brownlow Medallist

    Richmond
    Jul 4, 2006
    23,440
    Melbourne
    1898-1900
     
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  19. Underarm

    Underarm Norm Smith Medallist

    Richmond
    Feb 13, 2011
    5,721
    Something i thought of - whats the least amount of players needed to name to cover every premiership by club? Richmond is 4, and 3 if you include the coach. Fascinated what other clubs would be like.
     
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  20. Procrastinator35

    Procrastinator35 Brownlow Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Other teams:
    Man Utd Green Bay Melb Storm
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,976
    The GoldenBrown Heart of Victoria
    Hawthorn is also 4/3...With Kennedy covering 1961-1976, with Tuck 1976-1991 & Mitchell 2008-2015.....No Hawk played in both 1961 & 1971.

    1961
    1971
    1976-1991
    2008-2015
     
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  21. Underarm

    Underarm Norm Smith Medallist

    Richmond
    Feb 13, 2011
    5,721
    For richnond its Frank checker hughes 1920/21 and 32 as coach. Jack dyer 34/43. Kevin Bartlett for 67-80. Jack dyer was injured for the 32 grand final so no one played 32 and 20 or 43.
     
  22. Procrastinator35

    Procrastinator35 Brownlow Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Other teams:
    Man Utd Green Bay Melb Storm
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,976
    The GoldenBrown Heart of Victoria
    Hard to believe that KB was actually a member of your last Premiership.....I was a teenager back then & now I'm in my 50's....t's been a while.
     
  23. iluvparis

    iluvparis Brownlow Medallist

    Carlton
    Other teams:
    Calgary Flames, Man Utd
    Apr 1, 2005
    19,151
    St Kilda - Barret - 1
     
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  24. Jukesy85

    Jukesy85 Team Captain

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    SF 49ers and Giants, Wisconsin
    Aug 9, 2016
    364
    Perth
    George Stuckey 1897 1901 (also played in 3 of our 4 pre-1897 VFA flags)
    Fred Baring 1911 1912 1923 1924
    Dick Reynolds 1942 1946 1949 1950
    Barry Davis 1962 1965
    Tim Watson 1984 1985 1993
    James Hird 2000

    I think six is the least you can do ours in, not 100% sure about the early years though.
     
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  25. Procrastinator35

    Procrastinator35 Brownlow Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Other teams:
    Man Utd Green Bay Melb Storm
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,976
    The GoldenBrown Heart of Victoria
    LOL....Oh dear.....You could name 20 players on that one.

    Michael Tuck played in his first Premiership in 1976 & his last in 1991....That's a span of 16 years & 15 between his first & last.

    Michael Tuck also played in the 1975 Grand Final & his last in 1991.....Making it a span of 17 years & 16 between his first appearance to his last.

    Likely a record for both, I'd venture....Would like to see the top 5 on that score.
     
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