Stats questions

[footyfan1978]

I've heard that story:
At the 1975 GF between Hawthorn and North Melbourne each club had an allocation of tickets to sell. In those days the only way this could be done was to give the wads of tickets to the clubs for them to sell and hand over to the buyers. Unfortunately, Hawthorn had a wad of tickets fall down behind a huge filing cabinet or safe at Glenferrie Oval. The filing cabinet/safe was too big to move so the tickets remained unsold and on the day there was a patch of empty seats in the outer wing position.

Should have had their licence removed from the league at that point.

 

[footyfan1978]

Does highlight that in 1975 football was not even semi-professional then.
By mid 80's it certainly was everything see and hear about mid 70's shows it was just a big sporting league but overall not run anything like the business like models that use today.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Went back a bit further (121 years to be exact) to find a larger difference.

117 points - Sectional Round 3 in 1899 - Geelong scored 23.24.162 against St Kilda 0.1.1. Next highest score was Fitzroy 6.9.45

Difference was technically 119 points on the last weekend of 2007...

 

[Ron The Bear]

What is the record for lowest aggregate margin in 3 consecutive games for a team:

a) where at least 1 game was a draw?
b) where no games were drawn? (ie. has a team ever had 3 consecutive 1 point games)

a) 2 points
Carlton 1911 R1-3 D-D-L2
Carlton 1952 R14-16 D-L1-L1

b) 4 points
Western Bulldogs 1950 R18 to 1951 R1&2 L2-W1-W1
Carlton 2020 as above

 

[Ron The Bear]

Going by names on AFL Tables, what's the longest player name chain you can come up with?
The best I've managed to come up with is a 22-chain: Brandon Jack George Anthony Darcy Cameron Bruce Andrew Graham Arthur Luke Donald Don Scott Russell Campbell Heath James Stewart Duncan Lindsay Ellis Hicks

Brandon Jack (Sydney: 2013-2015, 2017)
Jack George (Collingwood: 1930-1931, St. Kilda: 1931-1935, South Melbourne: 1936)
George Anthony (Footscray: 1926-1927)
Anthony Darcy (Geelong: 1992, Footscray: 1993-1994, St. Kilda: 1996)
Darcy Cameron (Sydney: 2018, Collingwood: 2020-present)
Cameron Bruce (Melbourne: 2000-2010, Hawthorn: 2011-2012)
Bruce Andrew (Collingwood: 1928-1932, 1934)
Andrew Graham (Carlton: 1983)
Graham Arthur (Hawthorn: 1955-1968)
Arthur Luke (Geelong: 1948)
Luke Donald (St. Kilda: 1990)
Donald Don (Richmond: 1917-1928)
Don Scott (Hawthorn: 1967-1981)
Scott Russell (Collingwood: 1990-1998, Sydney: 1999)
Russell Campbell (South Melbourne: 1978, 1980)
Campbell Heath (Sydney: 2010, Port Adelaide: 2013)
Heath James (Sydney: 1999, 2001, 2003-2004)
James Stewart (GWS: 2013-2016, Essendon: 2017-2018)
Stewart Duncan (Fitzroy: 1960-1964)
Duncan Lindsay (North Melbourne: 1925-1926)
Lindsay Ellis (Footscray: 1954)
Ellis Hicks (South Melbourne: 1956)

And what's the most you can do with duplicates, without repeating a player (using identical names for different players counts, but don't try pulling off the infinite Aliir Aliir chain)

23

Jack, Kieren (Sy 2007-2019)
George, Jack (Co,St,Sy 1930-1936)
Angus, George (Co 1902-1911)
Graham, Angus (Ri 2007-2012)
Arthur, Graham (Ha 1955-1968)
Luke, Arthur (Ge 1948)
Donald, Luke (St 1990)
Don, Donald (Ri 1917-1928)
Cameron, Don (Me 1953)
Bruce, Cameron (Me,Ha 2000-2012)
Andrew, Bruce (St 1958)
Graham, Andrew (Ca 1983)
Scott, Graham (St,Me 1972-1974)
Russell, Scott (Co,Sy 1990-1999)
Campbell, Russell (Sy 1978-1980)
Heath, Campbell (Sy,PA 2010-2013)
James, Heath (Sy 1999-2004)
Stewart, James (WS,Es 2013-2018)
Duncan, Stewart (Fi 1960-1964)
Lindsay, Duncan (NM 1925-1926)
Thomas, Lindsay (NM,PA 2007-2018)
Campbell, Thomas (Ha 1943-1945)
Brady, Campbell (Me 1913)

 

[stemline]

How many games in the AFL era (apart from first games against new sides) have both sides kicked their lowest ever score against each other? (per Frem v Geel last night). Have there been a few this year?

 

[Ron The Bear]

How many games in the AFL era (apart from first games against new sides) have both sides kicked their lowest ever score against each other? (per Frem v Geel last night). Have there been a few this year?

2018 R1 GC v NM
2017 SF Ad v GWS
2015 R17 Ge v GWS
2015 R9 GC v Ha
2015 R5 GWS v WC
2014 twice (both involving GC)
2013 once (involved GC)
2012 4 times excluding GWS (all involved GC)
2009 once
2005 once
2004 once
2002 once
1999 twice (both involving PA)
1998 6 times (all involving PA)
1997 twice excluding PA (both involving Freo)
1996 6 times (4 involving Freo)
1995 twice excluding Freo
1994 once (involved Adelaide)
1992 once (involved Adelaide)
1991 once excluding Adelaide

 

[Ron The Bear]

Richmond have been the best side past 3 years 2017-19 - and have got the 2 premierships to show for it

What i want to know - is from round 1 2017 up until and including todays game - whats their win/loss record away from the MCG - so thats not just interstate games - can be Victorian games but not played at MCG

Thus total games played away from MCG for that period - - their total wins and total losses

MCG 42-6-1 (87%)
non-MCG 18-15-0 (55%)

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Prior to David Mundy, who was the last VFL/AFL player to have scores in their teens as their 2 lowest scores in their career?

 

[Generalissimo]

I randomly found this game https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1993/021619930516.html

in which Roger Merrett and Michael Murphy both kicked 8 goals. Has there ever been a game where two blokes on the same team kicked nine or more?

(trivia night joke: who kicked eight goals in the 1993 game between Brisbane and Sydney? Correct answers are Murphy and Merrett. I would also accept Sydney)

 

[Ron The Bear]

I randomly found this game https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1993/021619930516.html

in which Roger Merrett and Michael Murphy both kicked 8 goals. Has there ever been a game where two blokes on the same team kicked nine or more?

(trivia night joke: who kicked eight goals in the 1993 game between Brisbane and Sydney? Correct answers are Murphy and Merrett. I would also accept Sydney)

This is the only one.

AFL Tables - North Melbourne v Sydney - Sat, 1-May-1993 2:08 PM - Match Stats

 

[Generalissimo]

Daaamn... twice in the space of three weeks for Sydney. How demoralising.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Prior to David Mundy, who was the last VFL/AFL player to have scores in their teens as their 2 lowest scores in their career?

John Rantall who finished in 1980, a legacy of his South Melbourne days. 18 of the 19 players before Rantall also accumulated the pair of games at South. The odd one out was Ron Barassi (one at Melbourne, one at Carlton). Then a big gap back to Hawthorn's Ted Pool who finished in 1938.

 

[Nothing]

Freo were scoreless in the first qtr and went on to win. When was the last time it happened (to any team)? I assume it would have been very common in early VFL games.

 

[35Daicos]

Freo were scoreless in the first qtr and went on to win. When was the last time it happened (to any team)? I assume it would have been very common in early VFL games.

It's the first time since Rd. 12 2004: https://afltables.com/afl/seas/2004.html#12

Ironically it was Fremantle then as well! The time before that was:


This was the 309th scoreless first quarter - the 4th this year. 56 times the scoreless (at 1/4 time) team has won.

 

[worbod]

With Tristan Xerri having debuted for North Melbourne this season, and with Jarman Impey having played his first game this season with Hawthorn on Friday, we have now had a player whose surname begins with each letter of the alphabet play a game this season, except for the letter U. As far as I can see there are no players in any squads whose surname begins with U, but I by no means perused every squad with a fine tooth comb. Are there any U names out there for 2020?

 

[35Daicos]

With Tristan Xerri having debuted for North Melbourne this season, and with Jarman Impey having played his first game this season with Hawthorn on Friday, we have now had a player whose surname begins with each letter of the alphabet play a game this season, except for the letter U. As far as I can see there are no players in any squads whose surname begins with U, but I by no means perused every squad with a fine tooth comb. Are there any U names out there for 2020?

No.

 

[worbod]

No.

To quote Alanis Morissette: Thank U.

 

[35Daicos]

To quote Alanis Morissette: Thank U.

You should have one next year (with the Bulldogs, even), with Jamarra Ugle-Hagan!

 

[Strauchanside]

23

Jack, Kieren (Sy 2007-2019)
George, Jack (Co,St,Sy 1930-1936)
Angus, George (Co 1902-1911)
Graham, Angus (Ri 2007-2012)
Arthur, Graham (Ha 1955-1968)
Luke, Arthur (Ge 1948)
Donald, Luke (St 1990)
Don, Donald (Ri 1917-1928)
Cameron, Don (Me 1953)
Bruce, Cameron (Me,Ha 2000-2012)
Andrew, Bruce (St 1958)
Graham, Andrew (Ca 1983)
Scott, Graham (St,Me 1972-1974)
Russell, Scott (Co,Sy 1990-1999)
Campbell, Russell (Sy 1978-1980)
Heath, Campbell (Sy,PA 2010-2013)
James, Heath (Sy 1999-2004)
Stewart, James (WS,Es 2013-2018)
Duncan, Stewart (Fi 1960-1964)
Lindsay, Duncan (NM 1925-1926)
Thomas, Lindsay (NM,PA 2007-2018)
Campbell, Thomas (Ha 1943-1945)
Brady, Campbell (Me 1913)

Does Brady Rawlings follow the last entry here for number 24?

 

[Ron The Bear]

Does Brady Rawlings follow the last entry here for number 24?

I guess so. I tried for 25 and then 24 but nothing came up.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Who’s the tallest and shortest player per guernsey number?

 

[Giant Pete]

I know they were younger than us the other night (and they were far better)... just wondering what the average age for the swans and the giants teams were..?

 

[35Daicos]

I know they were younger than us the other night (and they were far better)... just wondering what the average age for the swans and the giants teams were..?

Australian Football - Match Details: 2020 R12 Sydney vs Greater Western Sydney

australianfootball.com

Sydney:


GWS:

 

[Connor7395]

Who’s the tallest and shortest player per guernsey number?

For 168cm and below:
1 - Tommy Laskey (Fitzroy, 1937) and Reg Baker (Collingwood, 1924-1926), 163cm
2 - Reg Baker (Collingwood, 1923) and Wally Chambers (Essendon, 1911-1915), 163cm
3 - Tommy Downs (Carlton, 1931, 1933), 159cm
4 - Charlie Hardy (Essendon, 1925), 157cm
5 - Bob Curtayne (St. Kilda, 1921), 161cm
6 - Kevin Coghlan (Hawthorn, 1953-1956), 163cm
7 - Doug Ringrose (Fitzroy, 1928-1929) and Wally Chambers (Essendon, 1911-1915), 163cm
8 - Harry Horsenail (St. Kilda, 1914) - 160cm
9 - Doug Nicholls (Fitzroy, 1934-1935), 157cm
10 - Ray Horwood (Collingwood, 1947-1948), 163cm
11 - Jim Wilson (Melbourne, 1952-1953) and Fred Hepner (South Melbourne), 163cm
12 - Norm Honey (Footscray, 1933), 157cm
13 - Doug Nicholls (Fitzroy, 1932-1933), 157cm
14 - Jim Bradford (Collingwood, 1943), 155cm
15 - Jim Bradford (North Melbourne, 1949), 155cm
16 - Harry Horsenail (St. Kilda, 1915, 1918), 160cm
17 - Bert Russell (South Melbourne, 1921), 160cm
18 - Jack James (St. Kilda, 1915, 1918-1920, 1922-1925), Bill McKenzie (Melbourne, 1915), Andy McDonald (Carlton, 1911), and Keith Osmond (Richmond, 1924), 165cm
19 - John Baker (North Melbourne, 1938-1940), 158cm
20 - Danny Craven (Brisbane Bears, 1993-1995), 162cm
21 - Joe Prince (South Melbourne, 1918), 164cm
22 - Clarrie Hall (Richmond, 1912-1921, 1924), 160cm
23 - Bob Ross (Collingwood, 1929) and Frank Mount (Carlton, 1927-1928), 163cm
24 - Jim Condon (Essendon, 1915, 1918), 160cm
25 - John Fitzgerald (Fitzroy, 1926), 160cm
26 - Jacky Harris (South Melbourne, 1925), Keith Stackpole (Collingwood, 1937, 1939, Fitzroy, 1939-1944) and Keith Osmond (Richmond, 1921) 165cm
27 - Bert Russell (South Melbourne, 1925) and John Gorwell (Richmond, 1955), 160cm
28 - Terry O'Brien (St. Kilda, 1940-1941) and Tommy Downs (Carlton, 1927-1929), 159cm
29 - Roy Bence (South Melbourne, 1922) and Roy Rodda (Hawthorn, 1933), 163cm
30 - Bill Speakman (Essendon, 1927-1929), 157cm
31 - Jack Mitchell (Melbourne, 1945), 160cm
32 - Bob Wilkie (St. Kilda, 1940), 165cm
33 - Charlie Hardy (Essendon, 1921-1924), 157cm
34 - Kevin Coghlan (Collingwood, 1950) and Jack Connole (Melbourne, 1914), 163cm
35 - Doug Nicholls (Fitzroy, 1936-1937), 157cm
36 - Leon Toohey (Hawthorn, 1955) and Nick Bloom (St. Kilda, 1951), 168cm
37 - Alec Peak (St. Kilda, 1938) and Vin Sabbatucci (St. Kilda, 1955), 166cm
38 - Graeme Taggart (North Melbourne, 1960), 163cm
39 - Tony Liberatore (Footscray, 1987-2002), 163cm
40 - Arthur Batchelor (North Melbourne, 1932), Ian Slockwitch (Richmond, 1961), and Paul Constance (Carlton, 1966), 168cm
41 - Dennis Aspinall (Fitzroy, 1967), Ross Gallagher (Footscray, 1981), Frank Adams (Melbourne, 1953) and Gary Stevens (Sydney, 1992-1993), 168cm
42 -
43 -
44 - Barry Cable (North Melbourne, 1975 Grand Final), 168cm
45 - Bradley Gotch (Fitzroy, 1982-1984), 166cm
46 - Vic Papp (Essendon, 1968), 168cm
47 -
48 - Bernie Conlen (South Melbourne, 1981), 163cm
49 - Paul Callery (St. Kilda, 1980, South Melbourne, 1980) and Peter Miller (Fremantle, 1995), 165cm
50 - Dennis Aspinall (Fitzroy, 1966), 168cm
51 -
52 - Kevin Sait (Footscray, 1981), 168cm
53 - Leo Dean (Geelong, 1935), 168cm
54 -
55 - Brett Bowey (St. Kilda, 1988), 168cm
56 -
57 -
58 -
59 - Steven Kolyniuk (Footscray, 1987), 174cm
60 - Tony Liberatore (Footscray, 1986), 163cm
63 - Mark Perkins (Collingwood, 1987), 179cm
65 - Andrew Witts (Collingwood, 1985), 183cm
67 - Jeff Garlett (Melbourne, 2017), 180cm