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West Coast will win because the last time the West Coast Eagles lost a Preliminary Final was in 1990.

How many finals series (incl. 1990) had we played in to that point? Two

How many of our players from last week weren't even born when that 1990 Prelim was played? Two (Darling and Gaff),

How many times have we played Geelong in a final that wasn't the Grand Final? Two

How many times have we played them in a Grand Final? Two

How many times have we beaten them in a Grand Final? Two

What were the margins in those Grand Finals? 28 and 80 points. Number that you'll find are divisible by, you guessed it, two.

And when we win, how many times will the Eagles have beaten the Cats this year? Yep, that's right - two

It's destiny my friends.
 
UpForGrabs said:
West Coast will win because the last time the West Coast Eagles lost a Preliminary Final was in 1990.

How many finals series (incl. 1990) had we played in to that point? Two

How many of our players from last week weren't even born when that 1990 Prelim was played? Two (Darling and Gaff),

How many times have we played Geelong in a final that wasn't the Grand Final? Two

How many times have we played them in a Grand Final? Two

How many times have we beaten them in a Grand Final? Two

What were the margins in those Grand Finals? 28 and 80 points. Number that you'll find are divisible by, you guessed it, two.

And when we win, how many times will the Eagles have beaten the Cats this year? Yep, that's right - two

It's destiny my friends.
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What is the combined total of matches that Geelong and West Coast have won on September 24th, two. (Both Preliminary Finals in 1994.)

Meanwhile:
Collingwood have won every alternate final that they have played on September 23rd. 1911 GF - lost, 1939 PF - won, 1978 PF - lost, 1990 SF won. The pattern is against them.

The only match previously played by Hawthorn on the 23rd of September was their first Grand Final win in 1961. The Football Gods have 23/9 reserved for special Hawk occasions.
 

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1. How many 18-4 or better sides have not made a Grand Final?

2. Top 5 combined W-L records for grand finalists? This year it will be 39-5.

3. Worst 5 combined (for 22 round season)?

4. Can anyone think of a game in Melbourne that had a sub-60k crowd but was televised live in Melbourne? Probably a couple Docklands games I presume, but MCG/Waverley?
 
damuzzdu said:
Can one the stats gurus display a list of biggest comebacks from 3/4 qtr time in a PF, say top 20

Where does Collingwood 17 pt comeback stand ?

Tks
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Preliminary Finals 1931-2011

1: Carlton 1945 -28 won by 10 v Collingwood
2: Essendon 1951 -24 won by 2 v Collingwood
3: Melbourne 1946 -23 won by 13 v Collingwood
4: Adelaide 1997 -22 won by 2 v WB/Footscray
5: Hawthorn 1987 -22 won by 2 v Melbourne


There have been 19 winners who trailed at 3/4 time. Range -1 to -28

Collingwood 2011 is the 6th greatest 3/4 deficit overcome.
 
OK, here's a different one.

At one stage during the first quarter, the commentators made mention of Shannon Hurn only having had one kick to that stage, yet as the Cats had scored about 7 behinds to that stage and Hurn's our main kick-out guy, it wasn't the case.

This obviously lead me to realise that kick-outs from goal after a behind aren't counted as official stats.

Here's my question - why not?

If Hurn kicks out from goal and the ball is marked by any player, Eagles or otherwise, it's counted as a mark. Similarly, if the ball is kicked out of bounds on the full by the player kicking out, then it's a free kick to the opposition.

You can only mark the ball from a kick, but if a kick-in isn't counted as a kick, then how can the mark be paid?
 
In response to Upforgrabs's question, an early Dreamteam bane was pickicng a bloke who happened to be the kick-out man as the direct kick from the goal-square is not counted as a disposal. However if he plays on to himself it does count. Not sure though when/why this determination of it being a disposal ever came about.
 

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RogersResults said:
Can get around to this later. But if anyone else wants to jump in - go for it.
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Best

Code: 
Year  M  W L D B Win %
----------------------
2011 44 39 5 0 4 88.64
2008 44 38 6 0 0 86.36
2009 44 38 6 0 0 86.36
1908 36 31 5 0 0 86.11
1935 36 30 4 2 0 86.11
1936 36 31 5 0 0 86.11


Worst

Code: 
Year M W L D B Win %
-----------------------
1916 24 12 11 1 0 52.08
1917 30 16 12 2 0 56.67
1899 28 16 12 0 0 57.14
1954 36 22 13 1 0 62.50
1997 44 28 16 0 0 63.64


22-round seasons:

Code: 
Year  M  W L D B Win %
----------------------
2011 44 39 5 0 4 88.64
2008 44 38 6 0 0 86.36
2009 44 38 6 0 0 86.36
1972 44 36 7 1 0 82.95
1995 44 36 8 0 0 81.82
 
 
Year  M  W  L D B Win %
-----------------------
1997 44 28 16 0 0 63.64
1994 44 29 15 0 4 65.91
1998 44 29 15 0 0 65.91
1999 44 29 15 0 0 65.91
2003 44 29 14 1 0 67.05
 
UpForGrabs said:
This obviously lead me to realise that kick-outs from goal after a behind aren't counted as official stats.
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For as long as I can remember I always thought a kick out was not considered an individual possession unless the player kicked to himself and played on.

Perhaps there should be a category for Kick Outs, similar to Sundries/Extras in cricket. So when you have Game Stats with everyone's possessions, last line could be Kick Outs, which would be those where the full back did not play on. Thus the team is credited with a kick, but not the individual.
 
Fairly simple question.

Has a team ever lost to just one team all season (i.e. what Essendon did in 2000) and NOT won the premiership? If Collingwood loses to Geelong next Saturday they'll have that 'distinction'. And, to make matters worse, it would be three losses in the one year to the one team, those three losses being their only three losses for season 2011. Seems almost unbelievable, yet true.
 
*Paul* said:
Collingwood's one-team-lost-to is the sixth such occurrence. Ess 2000 & 1950 Coll 1929, Sth 1918 and Carl 1908. All went on to win, and all with a single loss.
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Yes, I realise teams have only lost to one team in a season before, but what I asked was, if Geelong beat Collingwood next week, would this year be the first time when a team has only lost to one team all year but NOT won the premiership?

So, for example, if Geelong in 2008 had lost to Hawthorn instead of Collingwood during the home and away season, they would have been one such example of this.
 
Dos23 said:
Yes, I realise teams have only lost to one team in a season before, but what I asked was, if Geelong beat Collingwood next week, would this year be the first time when a team has only lost to one team all year but NOT won the premiership?

So, for example, if Geelong in 2008 had lost to Hawthorn instead of Collingwood during the home and away season, they would have been one such example of this.
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There have been a number of Premiers who have only beaten the runners-up in the Grand Final (16).

A number of Premiers who defeated the runners-up in all meetings (31).

But never a runners-up whose only losses for the year were to the Premiers. Collingwood can have a go at that record.
 

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What's the most years a player has spent on an AFL list without playing a senior game?

I noticed Dan Curry of Sydney is now up to four, which would surely be very unusual with the short lists these days, but perhaps not so unusual in the past.
 
Donners said:
What's the most years a player has spent on an AFL list without playing a senior game?

I noticed Dan Curry of Sydney is now up to four, which would surely be very unusual with the short lists these days, but perhaps not so unusual in the past.
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David Ugrinic, drafted with pick 13 in 1993's draft remained on Geelong's list up to 1998 from memory, and i think played at the most one pre-season Cup game. Had chronic ankle/knee injuries from memory. Not sure if he played any footy at a local level afterwards.
 
Happened to notice today when I was looking over old records that Essendon and Richmond met twice in the 1990 season and the scores in the first meeting were Essendon 18.19.127 v Richmond 6.13.49 (78 point margin), and in the second meeting between the sides that year the scores were Essendon 18.17.125 v Richmond 6.10.46 (79 point margin)

So one point off exactly the same margin, and two almost identical scorelines.

How many instances are there of exactly the same scoreline and thus margin occurring in successive matches between two clubs? I can think of Sydney and West Coast in the finals of 2006, 85 v 84, but also not completely the same as one of those was 13.7 and the other 12.13, and obviously one of them was Sydney winning by a point and the other West Coast by a point.
 
Dos23 said:
How many instances are there of exactly the same scoreline and thus margin occurring in successive matches between two clubs?
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It's never happened that the exact scoreline (G.B.P) has been repeated in consecutive games.

On three occasions, the final scores (i.e. points) have been the same in consecutive matches. These are:

Sy v Me, R12 1904 & R2 1905, 73-67
St v Co, R16 1913 & R6 1914, 82-44
Me v Ri, R16 1954 & R9 1955, 94-78

There are 157 cases of teams with exactly the same scoreline (i.e. G.B.P) in consecutive matches against an opponent, most recently Hawthorn 9.11.65 v Collingwood.

53 W-W
20 W-L
20 L-W
1 W-D
1 D-L
2 L-D
60 L-L
 
RogersResults said:
Here's a some more you didn't count:

These are the adjusted attendance figures for the finals:

Total attendance for the Finals Series includes 3 adjustments made by the MCC to the Week 1 attendances (Sept 9-10-11)
Geelong v Hawthorn, MCG 73,601 (not 73,400 as previously reported)
Collingwood v West Coast, MCG 67,502 (not 67,379 as previously reported)
Carlton v Essendon, MCG 90,370 (not 90,161 as previously reported)
Total attendance for Week 1 was therefore 270,678 not 270,145 as reported last weekend (an increase of 533 patrons).


From http://footystats.freeservers.com/Archive/Review11-R25.html

Which receives the audited attendance figures from the AFL.
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Crowd required this week for record season crowds: 106,288

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/crowds/summary.html

ie - not very likely unless they up standing room considerably!

Incidentally, were this crowd somehow to be reached - it would be the biggest VFL/AFL crowd since the 1983 Grand Final (110,332).
 

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