Stats questions

[Catsace]

Another interesting WLWLWL type season was by WAFL team the South Fremantle Bulldogs back in 1991. Souths, one of the pre-season premiership fancies gave their fans whiplash in the first third of the season going LWLWLWL before losing three games narrowly in a row mid-season, then came two wins in a row and then the LWL pattern seemed to return.

With season 1991 starting to slip away but the finals still well within reach in a year all the sides were pretty even save for top team Claremont and bottom team West Perth Souths coach Steve Hargrave no doubt wished that his team would find consistency and tried to instill this in the Bulldogs for the run home. However it seems to be a case of be careful what you wish for, as the Dogs did indeed find consistency in the last third of the season, only this is what happened as follows:

1. L - EP d. SF by 125 points
2. W - SF d. EF by 42 points
3. L - P d. SF by 8 points
4. W - SF d. SD by 74 points
5. L - C d. SF by 42 points
6. W - SF d WP by 67 points
7. L - S d. SF by 19 points
8. L - EP d. SF by 2 points
9. L - EF d. SF by 21 points
10. W - SF d. P by 40 points
11. W - SF d. SD by 4 points
12. L - C d. SF by 75 points
13. W - SF d. WP by 20 points
14. L - S d. SF by 101 points
15. L - EP d. SF by 22 points
16. L - EF d. SF by 129 points
17. L - P d. SF by 53 points
18. L - SD d. SF by 46 points
19. L - C d. SF by 103 points
20. L - WP d. SF by 10 points
21. L - S d. SF by 105 points

Five 100+ pt defeats in a season where they won 6 games, and four of them in those last 7 games after their Rd 13 win!

 

[emuboy]

Five 100+ pt defeats in a season where they won 6 games, and four of them in those last 7 games after their Rd 13 win!

The South Fremantle Bulldogs have created some mind-boggling stats over the years. Like as you noted with 1991, I've done the maths in more details. After defeating the bottom team West Perth in Round 13, the Dogs had a 6-7 record, 1275 points for, 1310 against, percentage 97.32 and a points difference of negative 35. Taking out the 125-point drubbing by East Perth in Round 1, Souths had outscored their opponents by 90 points in the other 12 games, even more impressive when you consider that both of the Bulldogs losses to the Claremont Tigers were by big margins.

Then after losing the last 8 games by an aggregate of 534 points, mean average losses 67 points, finish the season with 6-15 win/loss record, 1924 points against, 2493 against percentage 77.2 and points difference negative -569. That's very unusual to see.

In 1993 the Bulldogs suffered another late-season fade-out but this time the margins were not blow-outs like two years earlier, they scored a couple of wins against the trend as they fell away and managed to hold onto 5th spot although were eliminated by Subiaco the next week. However, what was extraordinary this time was that in the middle round of fixtures the Bulldogs kicked 30 goals to destroy the Subiaco Lions by 128-points, pushing South Fremantle to mid-year flag favoritism. However, just 7 weeks later the now out-of-form Bulldogs put up very little resistance to the Lions in the rematch, Subiaco thrashing South Fremantle by 59-points and performing an extraordinary 187-point turnaround in such a short space of time.

 

[Generalissimo]

Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

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32

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196cm

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94kg

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Fwd

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Last 5

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12.5

3star

K

9.0

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HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

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5.0

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4.6

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kicked 7 goals last night, two in the 2nd quarter and five in the last. What's the most number of goals one player has kicked all at the same end and none at the other?

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Jeremy Cameron kicked 7 goals last night, two in the 2nd quarter and five in the last. What's the most number of goals one player has kicked all at the same end and none at the other?

Look i dont if it qualifies with your question

But i do know for a fact Doug Wade the ex Geel FF champ , when he switched to NM , playing Coll at a game at Arden St , Wadey kicked 7 goals all in the last qtr

 

[the croucher]

Look i dont if it qualifies with your question

But i do know for a fact Doug Wade the ex Geel FF champ , when he switched to NM , playing Coll at a game at Arden St , Wadey kicked 7 goals all in the last qtr

24 August 1974 -
North Melbourne kicked eight goals in last quarter (Wade scoring seven of them to finish with eight in the match)
as per match report in The Age

The Age - Google News Archive Search

 

[the croucher]

Would someone be able to tell me what is the longest sequence for a team alternating between wins and losses in AFL/VFL/VFA/SANFL/WAFL history?

Fremantle may well be the answer to that question.
AFL Tables list a streak of 15 games at end of 2001 and well into 2002 season

AFL Tables - Fremantle - Streaks

AFL Tables - Fremantle All Games - By Season

 

[the croucher]

Jeremy Cameron kicked 7 goals last night, two in the 2nd quarter and five in the last. What's the most number of goals one player has kicked all at the same end and none at the other?

On 1 September 2007, Scott Lucas (for Essendon v West Coast) kicked 8 goals at the same end at Subiaco,
one in 2nd qtr and seven in 4th qtr.

AFL Tables - West Coast v Essendon - Sat, 1-Sep-2007 2:10 PM (4:10 PM) - Match Stats

[ shows how handy it is having the scoring progression available ]

 

[X_box_X]

On 1 September 2007, Scott Lucas (for Essendon v West Coast) kicked 8 goals at the same end at Subiaco,
one in 2nd qtr and seven in 4th qtr.

AFL Tables - West Coast v Essendon - Sat, 1-Sep-2007 2:10 PM (4:10 PM) - Match Stats

[ shows how handy it is having the scoring progression available ]

This was the first player I thought of.

Hird and Sheed's final game, wasn't it?

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Have any pairs of grandfathers (who were teammates) had their grandsons be teammates at any club?

 

[kickazz]

When was the last time a side kept their opposition goalless for the first half one week, then went goalless themselves in the first half the next week? (Gold Coast v Coll and Adel)

 

[35Daicos]

When was the last time a side kept their opposition goalless for the first half one week, then went goalless themselves in the first half the next week? (Gold Coast v Coll and Adel)

This should be the answer (Rd. 9 & 10 1917 - Geelong):-



And here we have the last time the "reverse" of this happened with Footscray (goalless themselves in the first half one week, then kept the opponent goalless the next week)!:


Edit: I see the same question was asked/answered here!:-

 

[kickazz]

~100 years. Pretty significant occurrence

 

[worbod]

In today's Herald Sun it is stated that Essendon has now gone six successive games with at least one goalless quarter, the first such time for them since 1918. Is anyone able to make a table showing each team's longest streak in relation to this stat? (Including Fitzroy and University)

 

[mikey127]

Following last night the Lions have now beaten all 10 Victorian teams the last time they played them in Victoria.

Just wondering if any other interstate team has ever achieved this? I know the 3 peat Lions didn't.

 

[Connor7395]

Richo on 7 asked the question if anyone had scored 3 goals quicker than Crisp and said I wonder if JK would know, ie Josh Kay aka SirSwampthing.

Came back from a commercial break and near end of the next segment said Swamp has just come up with the answer, Brad Miller in 2004, 2 minutes 18 seconds. Didn't say how much of game clock time that was.

Its this game Melbourne v Richmond Rd 17 2004

AFL Tables only introduced time stamps in 2001 so who knows if there was a quicker 3 goals is years prior to AFL Tables time stamping things.

AFL Tables - Richmond v Melbourne - Sun, 25-Jul-2004 2:10 PM - Match Stats

Brad Ottens behind	6m 17s​	5.5.35 - 6.3.39​
		5.5.35 - 7.3.45​	8m 11s​	Brad Miller goal
		5.5.35 - 8.3.51​	9m 8s​	Brad Miller goal
		5.5.35 - 9.3.57​	10m 29s​	Brad Miller goal

Didak was 2 minutes 41 seconds.

AFL Tables - Collingwood v West Coast - Sat, 3-Jul-2010 7:10 PM - Match Stats

Alan Didak goal	20m 13s​	14.9.93 - 5.6.36​
Alan Didak goal	21m 47s​	15.9.99 - 5.6.36​
Alan Didak goal	22m 54s​	16.9.105 - 5.6.36​

Jack Martin kicked his first three goals in 3 minutes and 5 seconds today. Then he added another to his tally immediately after that. Four goals in 5 minutes and 16 seconds.

Doesn't beat the three goal record, but what's the four goal record?

 

[Cuzz09]

Jack Martin kicked his first three goals in 3 minutes and 5 seconds today. Then he added another to his tally immediately after that. Four goals in 5 minutes and 16 seconds.

Doesn't beat the three goal record, but what's the four goal record?

they mentioned murphy reid v cats 4 goals in 6 mins

 

[Connor7395]

they mentioned murphy reid v cats 4 goals in 6 mins

Our hero Swamp has come up with the numbers, and Martin has broken a 21st century record (Reid came in at 6:07)

 

[ioppolo]

That Jack Riewoldt one was his 10 goal haul against us. At least that's not no. 1 anymore.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Our hero Swamp has come up with the numbers, and Martin has broken a 21st century record (Reid came in at 6:07)

Time goals stats have only been recorded by champion data and reproduced in AFL Tables since the 2001 season.

I suspect nobody knows the answer pre 2001 unless they have a video tape of a game and have gone thru it.

From the 2025 AFL Record Season Guide page 692 the following players give have kicked 8 goals in a quarter so they might challenge things.

Harry Davie: Melbourne R14 1925 v Carlton: Q4
Gordon Coventry: Collingwood R13 1929 v Hawthorn: Q1
Bob Pratt: South Melbourne R31934 v Essendon: Q4
Bob Pratt: South Melbourne R13 1934 v Carlton: Q3
Kelvin Templeton: Footscray R13 1978 v St Kilda: Q4

7 goals in a quarter are Harold Robertson 1919, Bob Pratt 1934, Jim Baird 1942, Fred Fanning 1947 v St Kilda the day he kicked 18.1 and John Coleman in 1950.

In the TV era - 7 goals in a quarter;

Doug Wade: North Melbourne R21 1974 v Collingwood Q4
Jason Dunstall: Hawthorn R1 1990 v Geelong Q4
Peter Sumich: West Coast R13 1991 V Footscray Q3 - I remember that game and Sumich banged on 3 or 4 very quickly
Scott Lucas: Essendon R22 2007 v West Coast Q4

Lucas fastest 3 goals - 3rd,4th,5th - 3 minutes 14 second
fastest 4 goals - 2nd,3rd,4th,5th - 9 minutes 51 seconds
fastest 5 goals - 3rd,4th 5th,6th,7th - 11 minutes 57 seconds

 

[X_box_X]

Chol kicked all three goals in the first quarter.

What is the highest number of goals kicked in a quarter with only one goal scorer?

 

[kickazz]

Chol kicked all three goals in the first quarter.

What is the highest number of goals kicked in a quarter with only one goal scorer?

Good question, I guess in the days of of big full forwards there may have been some big numbers?

 

[GrahamClayton]

What is the record for the most goals and behinds kicked in the VFL/AFL by a player with the initials GB?

 

[X_box_X]

What is the record for the most goals and behinds kicked in the VFL/AFL by a player with the initials GB?

Is this not the greatest question we've seen in this thread?

 

[35Daicos]

What is the record for the most goals and behinds kicked in the VFL/AFL by a player with the initials GB?

I don't have a 'scientific' way of coming up with an answer, but George Bisset at no. 157 appears to be the highest ranked "GB" player on this list!: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/careergoals.html


The order will be based on goals kicked (with behinds scored [where known] as a tie-breaker).

2nd^. 3rd>:

 

[emuboy]

WAFL team South Fremantle completed a dominant 2025 season with only one loss all year and won the Grand Final on Sunday over East Perth.

The Bulldogs only loss came in May, and astonishingly the only team to beat them was the West Coast Eagles Reserves, which only won one other match for the year and won their fifth consecutive wooden spoon.

Back in 1963 Fitzroy's only win for the season came at the expense of eventual premier Geelong, however the Cats lost other matches for the season, but I've never known of another example of the inverse of this where the premier's only loss was to the wooden spoon team.

Can anyone else name any examples of this?