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Got another big one for you all - time on ground for ruckman.

1. 97 - English (tough week coming up I presume)
1. 97 - Goldstein
3. 93 - Grundy
3. 93 - Phillips
5. 92 - O’Brien
6. 91 - Gawn
7. 90 - Darcy
7. 90 - Witts
9. 89 - Marshall
10. 84 - Mumford

Pittonet was on the ground for 54% game time. Second worst in the AFL next to Nankervis (48%) who got injured. Pretty damning how we use our ruckman only for centre clearances mainly then send him to the bench.
 
BoundbyKreuze said:
Got another big one for you all - time on ground for ruckman.

1. 97 - English (tough week coming up I presume)
1. 97 - Goldstein
3. 93 - Grundy
3. 93 - Phillips
5. 92 - O’Brien
6. 91 - Gawn
7. 90 - Darcy
7. 90 - Witts
9. 89 - Marshall
10. 84 - Mumford

Pittonet was on the ground for 54% game time. Second worst in the AFL next to Nankervis (48%) who got injured. Pretty damning how we use our ruckman only for centre clearances mainly then send him to the bench.
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Certainly a different strategy. Is it working? Up forward the 3 big fellas couldn't catch a cold against St Kilda. Of course much of that has to do with quality of entries. Down back we also could have done with a tall blocking the hole / assisting in the air. At the end of the day, it largely starts in the midfield. If you don't win clearances, and use it well, you are going to be up the creek at both ends.
 
BoundbyKreuze said:
Got another big one for you all - time on ground for ruckman.

1. 97 - English (tough week coming up I presume)
1. 97 - Goldstein
3. 93 - Grundy
3. 93 - Phillips
5. 92 - O’Brien
6. 91 - Gawn
7. 90 - Darcy
7. 90 - Witts
9. 89 - Marshall
10. 84 - Mumford

Pittonet was on the ground for 54% game time. Second worst in the AFL next to Nankervis (48%) who got injured. Pretty damning how we use our ruckman only for centre clearances mainly then send him to the bench.
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To quote myself and add depth to this. I mentioned is he struggling with the 5 day turn around or a knock/injury.

Pittonet - TOG%
Round 2 - 85% v Gawn (95%)
Round 3 - 83% v Stanley (80%)
Round 4 - 83% v Bellchambers (73%)
Round 5 - 54% v Marshall (89%)

interesting too our losses are when Pittonet is beaten by TOG by oppo ruckman.
 
1981 said:
Certainly a different strategy. Is it working? Up forward the 3 big fellas couldn't catch a cold against St Kilda. Of course much of that has to do with quality of entries. Down back we also could have done with a tall blocking the hole / assisting in the air. At the end of the day, it largely starts in the midfield. If you don't win clearances, and use it well, you are going to be up the creek at both ends.
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In the geelong and Essendon games Pitt was out marking on the wings from d50 clearing kicks from oppo defenders under pressure. This didn’t happen v saints. They often had the space to hit up to neatly the forward wing before we had a defender near them. I’m starting to believe the 5 day break truly hurt us. I expect big improvement v dogs. We’ve trained on the Gold Coast already, settled in. Dogs will get their first session today I reckon.
 

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BoundbyKreuze said:
Got another big one for you all - time on ground for ruckman.

1. 97 - English (tough week coming up I presume)
1. 97 - Goldstein
3. 93 - Grundy
3. 93 - Phillips
5. 92 - O’Brien
6. 91 - Gawn
7. 90 - Darcy
7. 90 - Witts
9. 89 - Marshall
10. 84 - Mumford

Pittonet was on the ground for 54% game time. Second worst in the AFL next to Nankervis (48%) who got injured. Pretty damning how we use our ruckman only for centre clearances mainly then send him to the bench.
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Not really when you consider how adept Casboult has been in the ruck over the past 2-3 years. Pittonett is more suited to those centre clearances, and plays a kick behind very well; it's only really against the Saints that he's been beaten, and even then statistically it wasn't an overwhelming dominance.
 
Michael Jezz said:
I would like to know our % time in fwd 50 v other clubs (as opposed to inside 50s). The amount of time in the 50 arc reflects fwd pressure.

The other stat is meters gained
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Not a stat they collect I’m afraid. The only way you’re getting this one is if you collate yourself.
 
DangerousD said:
On current projections and a shorter season, how many wins gets you in the 8?
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Looking at the last few years, 8th by the end of R17 has had 9 wins.

So I'd guess around that mark again, with a healthy percentage because you won't be the only team on 9 wins.
 

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Player rating for after round 6
KEY DEF:
Liam Jones - 7th
GEN DEF:
SPS - 3rd
Doc - 12th
KEY FWD
Casboult - 7th
McGovern - 8th
MID:
Cripps - 7th
MID/FWD:
Martin - 5th
RUCK:
Pittonet - 4th

Weitering and SPS are in career best positions.
Gibbons was our highest ranked blue last night.
Season best performances from:
Gibbons
Curnow
Mcgovern
Mckay
Jones
Kennedy
Walsh
Plowman
 
Great thread BoundbyKreuze - Bit of a stats nut so hope you don't mind me chiming in with this one:

QUARTERS WON SO FAR IN 2020

One thing that has stood out this year is the quarter consistency of the Blues after the Round 1 hiatus. As at the end of round 6, the Blues sit 2nd on the "Quarters Won" ladder with 16 wins / 8 losses - only 1 position behind Port Adelaide who are 17 wins / 6 losses / 1 draw. Impressive enough right, but then you look a bit deeper into when and how much these losses occurred by and what is happening round by round:

Round 1 v Richmond: Q1: -31 pts, Q2: -15 pts
Round 2 v Melbourne: Q1: -32 pts
Round 3 v Geelong: Q4: -33 pts
Round 4 v Essendon: Q3: -8 pts
Round 5 v St Kilda: Q1: -20 pts, Q2: -10 pts
Round 6 v Bulldogs: Q3: -3 pts

It's still quite a small sample size, but its showing that especially since the Q4 scare against the Cats, your losing margin for quarters has started to drop off considerably which is clearly a good sign. This might be because you are making adjustments in game to stem the tide of 2,3,4 goals being kicked in succession or actually wrestling back a bit of momentum and scoring yourselves. As the side matures, you would expect these margins to decrease further or even better, flip on their heads and become a winning quarter more often than not. Of course, as we know teams aren't going to win every quarter every game and at times there will most likely be a heavy score the other way, but at the very least a visible trend has been occurring over the last few games.

So how does this Quarter data compare with some other teams? The interesting one's that have popped up which are being hailed as near finals certainties are:

Essendon: 10 wins / 8 losses / 2 draws = 11th on the Quarters Won ladder, but 4th (with game in hand) on AFL ladder
Geelong: 10 wins / 14 losses = 13th on the Quarters Won ladder, but 2nd on AFL ladder
West Coast: 9 wins / 15 losses = 15th on the Quarters Won ladder, but 11th on AFL ladder

Essendon, are essentially "ass-ing" it. Their quarters are quite inconsistent however in their wins, they have been slightly less inconsistent than their opposition in that game. This is probably why their winning margins have been 6, 6, 15. 14. That really cant be sustainable let alone consistent, and really if one or two things went the other way in the games they won they would not have the win / loss record they have.

In the cases of Geelong and West Coast, their quarters are even more inconsistent however they appear to have a quarter or two in the games that they win where they'll get a run on and an insurmountable lead and return to inconsistency. Again, time will tell if that is sustainable.

Early days, but again i think if the Blues can continue the trend above i don't see why you wouldn't be in finals calculations based on consistent quarter by quarter efforts as seen last night as opposed to relying on a quarter of dominance here and there in a game to get the win.

Cheerio!
 
XYZ123 said:
Great thread BoundbyKreuze - Bit of a stats nut so hope you don't mind me chiming in with this one:

QUARTERS WON SO FAR IN 2020

One thing that has stood out this year is the quarter consistency of the Blues after the Round 1 hiatus. As at the end of round 6, the Blues sit 2nd on the "Quarters Won" ladder with 16 wins / 8 losses - only 1 position behind Port Adelaide who are 17 wins / 6 losses / 1 draw. Impressive enough right, but then you look a bit deeper into when and how much these losses occurred by and what is happening round by round:

Round 1 v Richmond: Q1: -31 pts, Q2: -15 pts
Round 2 v Melbourne: Q1: -32 pts
Round 3 v Geelong: Q4: -33 pts
Round 4 v Essendon: Q3: -8 pts
Round 5 v St Kilda: Q1: -20 pts, Q2: -10 pts
Round 6 v Bulldogs: Q3: -3 pts

It's still quite a small sample size, but its showing that especially since the Q4 scare against the Cats, your losing margin for quarters has started to drop off considerably which is clearly a good sign. This might be because you are making adjustments in game to stem the tide of 2,3,4 goals being kicked in succession or actually wrestling back a bit of momentum and scoring yourselves. As the side matures, you would expect these margins to decrease further or even better, flip on their heads and become a winning quarter more often than not. Of course, as we know teams aren't going to win every quarter every game and at times there will most likely be a heavy score the other way, but at the very least a visible trend has been occurring over the last few games.

So how does this Quarter data compare with some other teams? The interesting one's that have popped up which are being hailed as near finals certainties are:

Essendon: 10 wins / 8 losses / 2 draws = 11th on the Quarters Won ladder, but 4th (with game in hand) on AFL ladder
Geelong: 10 wins / 14 losses = 13th on the Quarters Won ladder, but 2nd on AFL ladder
West Coast: 9 wins / 15 losses = 15th on the Quarters Won ladder, but 11th on AFL ladder

Essendon, are essentially "ass-ing" it. Their quarters are quite inconsistent however in their wins, they have been slightly less inconsistent than their opposition in that game. This is probably why their winning margins have been 6, 6, 15. 14. That really cant be sustainable let alone consistent, and really if one or two things went the other way in the games they won they would not have the win / loss record they have.

In the cases of Geelong and West Coast, their quarters are even more inconsistent however they appear to have a quarter or two in the games that they win where they'll get a run on and an insurmountable lead and return to inconsistency. Again, time will tell if that is sustainable.

Early days, but again i think if the Blues can continue the trend above i don't see why you wouldn't be in finals calculations based on consistent quarter by quarter efforts as seen last night as opposed to relying on a quarter of dominance here and there in a game to get the win.

Cheerio!
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Great analysis

Keep it coming
 

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AFL Stats
Goals:
Betts - 15t
Casboult - 18th

Disposals
Docherty - 8th
Cripps - 12th
*both off two below par games

Marks:
Docherty - 3rd
Casboult - 5th

Score Involvements:
Martin - 4th
Cripps - 8th

Contested Possessions:
Cripps - 2nd

Metres Gained:
Docherty - 1st

Contested Marks:
Casboult - 4th
Jones - 16th

Clearances:
Cripps - 2nd

Centre Clearances:
Cripps - 1st

Intercept Possessions:
SPS - 10th
Docherty - 12th
Jones - 18th
Docherty - 19th
*interesting seeing this for SPS. I like it a lot.
**who would of thought Carlton would have 4 in the top 20. That’s huge.

Hitouts:
Pittonet - 9th
 
I know i have been banging on about this for some time, so below is how our rebuild is tracking against other more recent rebuilds. Saints and Lions started their rebuild in 2013, compared to ours in 2015. The results below are based on the first 6 games of 2018 for the Saints and Lions, ours based on this year, the same 2 year gap.

I would concede our points against are favourable due to the shortened games, but we are also scoring more in less game time

2018 final ladder position and wins
Lions - 15th - 5 wins
Saints - 16th - 4 wins 1 draw

As a percentage of wins (given this year's shorten season), we only need to win 2 more games to surpass their progression ( I would be disappointed with only 2 more wins)

As the Lions did at the end of 2018, Saints end of 2019, they both added senior players, some of which cost a mixture of 1st and 2nd rounders. I feel we will do the same end of this year, but will we give up similar draft currency? I love a good bang for your buck trade/acquisition, Pittonet, Martin, Newnes, etc, but perhaps it is time to push harder. Although, I prefer we are not impatient, as the group is developing ahead of schedule. Balance is still the key



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BoundbyKreuze said:
AFL Stats
Goals:
Betts - 15t
Casboult - 18th

Disposals
Docherty - 8th
Cripps - 12th
*both off two below par games

Marks:
Docherty - 3rd
Casboult - 5th

Score Involvements:
Martin - 4th
Cripps - 8th

Contested Possessions:
Cripps - 2nd

Metres Gained:
Docherty - 1st

Contested Marks:
Casboult - 4th
Jones - 16th

Clearances:
Cripps - 2nd

Centre Clearances:
Cripps - 1st

Intercept Possessions:
SPS - 10th
Docherty - 12th
Jones - 18th
Docherty - 19th
*interesting seeing this for SPS. I like it a lot.
**who would of thought Carlton would have 4 in the top 20. That’s huge.

Hitouts:
Pittonet - 9th
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Theme song:

Carlton - 1st

:)
 
Arr0w said:
I know i have been banging on about this for some time, so below is how our rebuild is tracking against other more recent rebuilds. Saints and Lions started their rebuild in 2013, compared to ours in 2015. The results below are based on the first 6 games of 2018 for the Saints and Lions, ours based on this year, the same 2 year gap.

I would concede our points against are favourable due to the shortened games, but we are also scoring more in less game time

2018 final ladder position and wins
Lions - 15th - 5 wins
Saints - 16th - 4 wins 1 draw

As a percentage of wins (given this year's shorten season), we only need to win 2 more games to surpass their progression ( I would be disappointed with only 2 more wins)

As the Lions did at the end of 2018, Saints end of 2019, they both added senior players, some of which cost a mixture of 1st and 2nd rounders. I feel we will do the same end of this year, but will we give up similar draft currency? I love a good bang for your buck trade/acquisition, Pittonet, Martin, Newnes, etc, but perhaps it is time to push harder. Although, I prefer we are not impatient, as the group is developing ahead of schedule. Balance is still the key



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After 7 rounds

ClubsResultsForAgtMargin
LionsWins 0 - Draws 0 - Losses 77098-28
SaintsWins 1 - Draws 1 - Losses 56593-28
BluesWins 3 - Draws 0 - Losses 469681
 

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