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I'm seeing double. 4 Linda Lovelaces.
Stephen Dank takes it to another level
I'm seeing double. 4 Linda Lovelaces.
Crankyhawk
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Or a underworld figure who is an Essendon supporter...
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People from those countries aren't sneaky enough.
Wasn't the program at Essendon pulled due to cost rather than any moral objection?
Then again if the club was paying who footed the bill for the James Hird super viagra and other stuff the coaches admitted to taking ?
If the club paid how was this justified to their memebers?
The other stuff was GWP (gift with purchase )
The Hypermed bill was $50K, this included hyperbaric treatment, although according to Chip the original bill was reduced by $11K because of unapproved "injectables" (from memory the El Paso/Mexico drug), and there was a $15K bill at Skinovate for actual vitamins (as opposed to other "vitamins" or "amino acids"). Robinson was the one who claimed the program was stopped because of the cost, I'm not sure how reliable his account is though.
The investigation didn't turn up any invoices for AOD9604 (which Watson and others admitted to), let alone TB4 or Thymomodulin. Since Dank was a contractor I thought perhaps it was in generic invoices from his business, but that is only speculation.
Members would not have known anything about excessive expenditure until well after the fact.
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I did wonder if the big bill was the excuse used to ditch Dank but at that point did EFC management have concerns about what Dank was up to.
jenny61_99
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Fancy charging $11k for some blokes left-over amino acid! Cheeky buggers.
Dank was sacked after about nine months with the Bombers, apparently due to a dispute over unauthorised expenses. It has been estimated the club's budget for supplements was exceeded by about $100,000.
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If unauthorised expenses and going over the budget was the reason for Danks sacking in 2012 then why was not a special audit done incase of evidence needed for a breach of contract claim. Possibly some people knew the answer already and it could have blown this saga open before feb 2013
I suspect that was only one reason of many, but I agree they should have dug further at the time. There was no contract or personnel file on him found at the club either by the way.
NoAFLinmycomp
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Apparently no record of any "induction", formal JD, responsibilities and requirements, goals, etc.
Odd.
But then so is the gap of so many types of records within this saga. Ah well, we wait and hope that a hard-drive turns up on a tip somewhere.
This is part of the corporate governance that we keep hearing about. I suspect a lot of the commentators aren't to sure what is meant by that.
No personal records? No tractability of purchases?
How simple would it be where any "medical" purchases not on the "club list" had to be signed off by the doctor. No signature no payment. Try finding someone who will provide this stuff without payment.
YES you could still have a corrupt doctor. But there would be no need for all this finger pointing.
No personal records? No tractability of purchases?
How simple would it be where any "medical" purchases not on the "club list" had to be signed off by the doctor. No signature no payment. Try finding someone who will provide this stuff without payment.
YES you could still have a corrupt doctor. But there would be no need for all this finger pointing.
Muggs
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Thanks for the idea for an exam question! (just gave a lecture on this process and writing an exam next week...).
Agree where you coming form, but personally would not do it this way, would do it at the purchase order stage, have a list of substances and suppliers that the doctor needs to approve before orders are placed, or have the doctor sign off the on the order. You try and prevent this being supplied in the first place
The invoice stage is a bit late if the items have already been received and used (and as a business most items would be purchased on credit) the club would be legally obliged to pay. Might stop getting supplied a second time, if the supplier needs to purse you for it but does not change your obligation on that first delivery.
If any of my students read this (unlikely as they 98.9% Chinese international students).... consider this an exam hint...
Absolutely agree, sorry if i wasn't clear on that.
My point was if someone tried to source it outside the "correct" system, there would be no system to pay for it.
Many organisations need to source chemicals, and these days they all must be assessed, stored correctly, and have safety data sheets included.
So what you've proposed above would be be a very similar system to what a lot of businesses do for chemicals.
I wonder if they have safety data sheets for the pool chlorine at windy hill.
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Danks looks really young in that photo only in 2013.
Spending last 3years with lawyers would age anyone
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Thankfully there is only 1 of him
gavaniacono
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EFC's internal governance and management systems were obviously blowin' in the wind. A culture of not checking, whatever it takes sans documenting and checking anything. Lets start with the Ss:How does the supplement budget get exceeded by $100,000 without anyone noticing prior to then?
slapdash
slipshod
slovely
sketchy
slack
shithouse
sheisty
The coach, the doc, the players (well most of them), the finance manager - book-keeper, office manager, footy department manager, ceo, all asleep at the wheel. They must have all been on something, something supplied by Dank possibly. Or else, just incompetent. Negligent.
In all honesty it's probably not fair to blame finance dept. I'd expect Dank probably just let the invoices keep coming in and piling up until the suppliers cracked it and he suddenly dumped them onto the office finance person.
Chances are they blinked at them for about one minute before taking them all up higher.
Have seen this exact situation build at my work - not me though.......... really...!!!
Muggs
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Agree Dank could well have done this, and have seen it myself as well, normally an indication of slack purchasing controls however. Lack of authorisation in purchases, not following up why purchase orders/deliveries don't have an invoice.
Kind of problems a lot of organisations have as they grow, organisations are often slow to realise that the (often informal) processes that work in a small organisation, where everyone knows everyone and there are people in roles not departments, don't work in large organisations.
gavaniacono
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I've seen the same thing in my own company and we wouldn't and don't pay! We have a payment procedure and someone like dank can't willy nilly go ordering stuff not in the budget, can't decide discretionary spending, and can't approve non budgeted items without going through the procedure. Outside his authority. I suspect there was no procedure at Windy Towers. I suspect CEO Basil was inept. It's handy having a fm or such on the management board to identify the procedural gaps. I also blame BF type matrix structure which looks look a deliberate tactic to create plausible deniability.
jenny61_99
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I want to know how many bills WERE paid.
