Suicide

[bunsen burner]

Here's a thought for all you people who have been inconvenienced:

When you think about your loved ones who have decided to end their own lives, have some respect and stop thinking about yourselves. You grief and emotional inconvenience most likely pales in comparison what they went through.

 

[Changaneen]

That's precisely my point too. Read it again. Your wife is essentially upset because she can't have closure. "Me me me me me". She's thinking of herself.

tip: It's not about her.

And tip to you. The most selfish act of attention seeking, without reprisal is suicide. Its the ultimate me me me me me !!

 

[Bombers 2003]

It's a personal choice.

I tend to think it's a byproduct of people that take themselves and/or life too seriously.

HTF,can depression be a personal choice?

 

[bunsen burner]

And tip to you. The most selfish act of attention seeking, without reprisal is suicide. Its the ultimate me me me me me !!

Looks pretty obvious about what you think of your wife's neice. An open and shut case.

Does your wife know what you think of her dead niece?

 

[bunsen burner]

HTF,can depression be a personal choice?

Emo's.

 

[Bombers 2003]

Emo's.

huh

 

[Changaneen]

Here's a thought for all you people who have been inconvenienced:

When you think about your loved ones who have decided to end their own lives, have some respect and stop thinking about yourselves. You grief and emotional inconvenience most likely pales in comparison what they went through.

So basically what your saying is that grief and confusion shouldnt be a part of natural human emotion/behaviour. Just get on with it and live with the fact that a loved one took themselves away ?

 

[bunsen burner]

So basically what your saying is that grief and confusion shouldnt be a part of human natural human emotion/behaviour.

What? How did you work that out?

Grief, yes? Confusion, yes? "Dead person is selfish because I'm sitting here with grief"? Absolutely not.

Just get on with it and live with the fact that a loved one took themselves away ?

Depression is quite well documented. There's rarely any other reason in western culture why people top themselves. Grieve at someone no longer being around, but the answers aren't exactly a massive secret.

 

[Bombers 2003]

So basically what your saying is that grief and confusion shouldnt be a part of natural human emotion/behaviour. Just get on with it and live with the fact that a loved one took themselves away ?

of course grief is a human emotion
and the consequances of suicide affect the family and friends of a suicide no one who has lost a loved one or friend can escape those consequances.

 

[Changaneen]

What? How did you work that out?

Grief, yes? Confusion, yes? "Dead person is selfish because I'm sitting here with grief"? Absolutely not.

Yes, dead person is selfish, because they have left loved ones with unnecessary grief and whatever else, which is purely natural human behaviour.

 

[bunsen burner]

Yes, dead person is selfish, because they have left loved ones with unnecessary grief and whatever else, which is purely natural human behaviour.

You just don't get it do you?

Grieving is normal and fine.

Respectful and genuine grief:

"I am shattered that X is no longer around"
"I am saddened that X suffered depression and felt he/she had to commit suicide"

Selfish grief:

"I'm inconvenienced by X because they made me grieve"


It's a pretty simple concept and it seems you are one giant selfish mofo.

 

[Hard_to_Beat]

depression isn't a choice.

Gee there's some ****ing idiots in this thread.

Suicide and depression are not mutually exclusive you moron.

Keep your dicksizing for the leptons.

 

[Hard_to_Beat]

HTF,can depression be a personal choice?

You're the essendon supporter. You tell me.

 

[bunsen burner]

Suicide and depression are not mutually exclusive you moron.

Keep your dicksizing for the leptons.

What are you on about dick breath? Pretty sure I've never said nor remotely implied that. How did you come to the conclusion that I think that? Would be because you're a dumb arse would it?

 

[Bombers 2003]

You're the essendon supporter. You tell me.

intelligent answer
oh wait
you go for norf

 

[Changaneen]

You just don't get it do you?

Grieving is normal and fine.

Respectful and genuine grief:

"I am shattered that X is no longer around"
"I am saddened that X suffered depression and felt he/she had to commit suicide"

Selfish grief:

"I'm inconvenienced by X because they made me grieve"


It's a pretty simple concept and it seems you are one giant selfish mofo.

Maybe your correct. Their ultimate act of selfishness has also brought upon my feelings of selfishness. Being left to deal with picking up the pieces of those around that it has affected, while they have no reprisals, responsibilitys, explanations.

Selfishness is also a human emotion, and it still doesnt get away from the fact that suicide is one of the ultimate acts of this.

 

[bunsen burner]

Yes, you did ***knuckle.

You were to busy playing hero to check your own flawed thinking.

Shut your ******* neck and keep your shitman opinions to yourself.

Go quote me on it or STFU. My stance has been consistent throughout and anything around depression and suicide being mutually exclusive are non existent.

You best check your IQ and then do a rough calculation on what the likelihood of you being correct on this one. Might learn something.

 

[Hard_to_Beat]

Maybe your correct. Their ultimate act of selfishness has also brought upon my feelings of selfishness. Being left to deal with picking up the pieces of those around that it has affected, while they have no reprisals, responsibilitys, explanations.

Selfishness is also a human emotion, and it still doesnt get away from the fact that suicide is one of the ultimate acts of this.

Do yourself a favor and give this intellectual imposter a miss.

Here is some perspective on existence from a proper thinker:

 

[Eagle Empire]

Recently, I've been in the vicinity of two separate incidents of death by suicide. Both occurred in the space of three weeks and within a block of buildings in the law precinct.

They were quite disturbing.

 

[bunsen burner]

Do yourself a favor and give this intellectual imposter a miss.

But you still haven't explained why you said depression is a choice? You've been asked twice but you haven't responded.

Perhaps it's you who has been unclear in your argument because you have either done a 180 degree turn, or you have been so ambiguous that two different people interpreted your first post in the wrong way?

You know we actually have the same argument? Maybe you just need to clarify why you started off saying depression was a choice?

 

[jesterwester]

I watched a documentary on suicides which had an interesting point which made me stop & think- the person that commits suicide shows a certain level of strength in a strange sense, that they have to leave everything and everyone they love behind. Its just so horrific for those left behind.

Having depression myself, I could never judge someone that ends their life, mostly because I know what it's like to not want to go on, and depression can make you feel so worthless.

 

[HappyChappy35]

My nephew recently committed suicide and nothing anyone said or did was going to change what he did. It was always going to be a matter of when.

He leaves behind a beautiful daughter, heartbroken family and friends and all because he didn't believe he was worthy.
It was a selfish act and we have all ranted at that selfishness at some time over the last few months but in saying that we hope he know longer walks in the shadow of darkness. I wonder though when he took that final step if he pondered the questions, the legal mess, the grief, the residual and future hurt that you leave behind - if he did I don't think he would of gone ahead with it.

Suicide is not the answer and if you are feeling that way please I implore reach out for help.

Really sorry to hear about that, hope your family are okay. And whilst people who commit suicide no longer have to suffer, it is not the right thing to do and there is most definitely a plethora of help available. It is a real shame some people don't realise this and resort to suicide as a means of escape.

Can't believe you actually think this rubbish. Your nephew had depression to the point he killed himself and you and your family all think it's about you. Get your head out of your arses. No wonder he topped himself with a family of selfish self absorbed pricks like you.

That is seriously poor form mate. No need to resort to attacks on and blame his/her family because his nephew committed suicide, I'm sure they did all they could to assist him. Grow up.

 

[bunsen burner]

That is seriously poor form mate. No need to resort to attacks on and blame his/her family because his nephew committed suicide, I'm sure they did all they could to assist him. Grow up.

I'm just a random on the internet giving an opinion that I think someone is selfish. Afterall, I'm not the guy who feels inconvenienced that a loved one had depression and killed themselves.

Thanks for your feedback but I will have a sound sleep tonight.

 

[mellowyellow]

Tell your crap walking. I can't be ***ed with your infantile dick sizing bullshit. It's beneath me.

**** off and don't pollute my eyeballs with your shit ever again.

Its a fair question so why not answer it

 

[HappyChappy35]

I'm just a random on the internet giving an opinion that I think someone is selfish. Afterall, I'm not the guy who feels inconvenienced that a loved one had depression and killed themselves.

Thanks for your feedback but I will have a sound sleep tonight.

There is absolutely no need to label him and his family as 'selfish' because his nephew committed suicide. They may very well have helped him and done everything in their power to prevent it from occurring.
It saddens me that some people (internet heroes) harbour attitudes like this.